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Old 18th May 2019, 22:54
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Originally Posted by eckhard View Post
Wake turbulence?
that's my bet...
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Old 19th May 2019, 18:33
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Originally Posted by ironbutt57 View Post
that's my bet...
It won’t be mine, having flown with the people concerned, flown the aircraft concerned, and done exactly the same job in Dubai (and lots of other places) with the same company.

ATC DXB are very aware of wake turbulence, so are the crews concerned. In addition the crew were incredibly experienced.

I honestly think this will be a “wait for the AAIB report” situation, long as it will be.
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Old 19th May 2019, 19:34
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Originally Posted by Chilli Monster View Post


It won’t be mine, having flown with the people concerned, flown the aircraft concerned, and done exactly the same job in Dubai (and lots of other places) with the same company.

ATC DXB are very aware of wake turbulence, so are the crews concerned. In addition the crew were incredibly experienced.

I honestly think this will be a “wait for the AAIB report” situation, long as it will be.
No locals were flying the aircraft ; Therefore, we can expect the final report still by this century...

RIP...
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Old 19th May 2019, 23:03
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ATC DXB are very aware of wake turbulence

hmmm...not uncommon for an arriving aircraft to be at the top end of the GS causing a wake encounter with somebody who is following it properly, had this arise more than once arriving in Dubai...I sure wouldn't rule it out...
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Old 20th May 2019, 07:46
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Originally Posted by ironbutt57 View Post
hmmm...not uncommon for an arriving aircraft to be at the top end of the GS causing a wake encounter with somebody who is following it properly, had this arise more than once arriving in Dubai...I sure wouldn't rule it out...
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1) This wasn’t near the top of the GS

2) Calibration flights aren’t vectored and sequenced like conventional arrivals

3) This wasn’t even to the runway in use

Take it from someone who knows - yes, conventional arrivals probably do get a little as you stated, where you stated. I don’t however think speculation is appropriate if you’re not familiar with the nature of the operation, which is very different to most “Conventional Aviators” understanding.
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Old 20th May 2019, 09:51
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by top of the glideslope I was referring to the deviation limits, not the top, or commencement of the final approach sector, in any vent, sad to hear, I'm sure the investigation will yield the true cause
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Old 21st May 2019, 10:46
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Originally Posted by Beafer View Post
A local resident watched the plane take a gradual left turn towards the park.
https://gulfnews.com/uae/dubai-plane...ash-1.64009994
So what? Nothing unusual about that.
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Old 21st May 2019, 15:14
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CFIT , no one paying attention?
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Old 21st May 2019, 16:18
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Originally Posted by fatbus View Post
CFIT , no one paying attention?
Obviously never flown a Calibration flight - I actually find your post rather insulting and disrespectful to the people involved.
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Old 21st May 2019, 20:27
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Originally Posted by eckhard View Post
Wake turbulence?
If you have to believe the word around the campfire...yes. Non E*K aircraft. Again, rumor mill... RIP and strength to the families and loved ones involved.
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Old 21st May 2019, 22:35
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Chilli 1- you must be the worlds best pilot . Good for you . ESL ? It was simply an observation.
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Old 24th May 2019, 21:58
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not as before ...unique conditions ....check ur facts
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Old 25th May 2019, 13:14
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.not as before ...unique conditions ....check ur facts
Care to enlighten us?
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Old 25th May 2019, 15:29
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Why 4 POB? The DA42 is a single pilot aircraft and they would only need one engineer/technician to set up the recordings for each run.What were the other two doing?
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Old 25th May 2019, 16:34
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I believe it was a DA62, not the 42, but yes can be operated single crew.
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Old 25th May 2019, 16:45
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Originally Posted by lucille View Post
Why 4 POB? The DA42 is a single pilot aircraft and they would only need one engineer/technician to set up the recordings for each run.What were the other two doing?
Although not familiar of how things are done in DBX I asked myself the same question when I first read about the accident
As others have pointed out we might have a small chance for a decent investigation on this one.
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Old 25th May 2019, 22:34
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Do they require more people for the approach light / runway light set up? ( whatever the technical name)

I believe this will be a wake accident. Approaches to 30R with light winds from the north...a bad recipe, especially if the campfire talk is true the DA called “traffic in sight”.
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Old 26th May 2019, 05:52
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Only one technician in the back is all that’s required, he/she sets up the recording for the calibration run and communicates with ground navaid techs to get the desired settings on the ground equipment.

Wake turbulence is a possibility. Although if it’s any of the ILS components being checked, there can’t be any large pieces of metal between them and the transmitter thus precluding wake turbulence once the calibration run has been commenced.

Hell of a long way to ferry a DA62 just to calibrate half a dozen runways in the UAE. Interesting.
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Old 26th May 2019, 07:21
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Originally Posted by lucille View Post
Although if it’s any of the ILS components being checked, there can’t be any large pieces of metal between them and the transmitter thus precluding wake turbulence once the calibration run has been commenced.
Ok. Thanks.

That was my understanding as well, but that would not be the case if the were working on the approach lighting.

This is is why CM’s post are a little off. If he/she had known they were working on the lights, maybe he/she could then see a possible wake encounter, especially given the wx conditions.
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Old 26th May 2019, 07:52
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I personally am not very hopeful for a report to be published as soon as we would like.

Something just doesn't add up here as the press has been drip fed information, some of which was incorrect to start off with and all traces of flight tracking data from the aircraft concerned, were removed from the internet within a couple of hours of the unfortunate event. When people sadly loose lives, it is nothing short of a tragic accident and not an incident, as it has been described both here in the UAE, as well as the UK.

Call me a cynic and I truly hope to be proved wrong for the sake of friends and relatives of those who passed away but I detect that there are people in this hot part of the world, who want this to be swept under the carpet.
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