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Old 11th May 2018, 05:35
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Wow...there’s no need to go watch Thanos click his fingers to make half Universe disappear we can just watch Emirates do that to their pilots.
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Old 11th May 2018, 05:39
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Originally Posted by RemoveB4Flght View Post

None of the experienced, competent colleagues I have spoken with who have resigned have expressed any interest in shifting up the road.
...... which perfectly explains Whiteys comment, doesn't it? Only the inexperienced and incompetent applied ......
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Old 11th May 2018, 06:44
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Originally Posted by gtaflyer View Post
Wow...thereís no need to go watch Thanos click his fingers to make half Universe disappear we can just watch Emirates do that to their pilots.
Jesus habibi. SPOILER ALERT!!!!
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Old 11th May 2018, 06:46
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The 5 weeks bonus Is great, but they really needed to do something with the pay not only to retain pilots, but also attract new ones.

Its a no from me.
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Old 11th May 2018, 06:55
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Why spoiler alert !!, it’s been brewing for years they knew it’s coming just matter of time .....dread it, run from it, destiny still arrives..
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Old 11th May 2018, 10:52
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Originally Posted by cerbus View Post


I think you will be surprised at how few pilots will leave after this latest insult. Sure some have their applications out and some have already been hired at other airlines but Iíll bet anyone EK loses at the most 200 pilots between now and 1Sept and that number is probably too high.
I know I said EK could potentially lose 400 plus pilots but after talking to some of the pilots today the numbers are way less. Most of the pilots werenít too upset about this farce so I donít know what it is going to take to make pilots upset and leave. Certainly not this.
You are 100% wrong. The guys I did manage to talk to yesterday, all on the 380, were still relatively content here with none planning on leaving. Not anymore.
ALL of them said this was it. ALL of them are starting on apps and an exit plan.

These were guys who were not already sitting on the fence.
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Old 11th May 2018, 11:40
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Originally Posted by pilotguy1222 View Post
You are 100% wrong. The guys I did manage to talk to yesterday, all on the 380, were still relatively content here with none planning on leaving. Not anymore.
ALL of them said this was it. ALL of them are starting on apps and an exit plan.

These were guys who were not already sitting on the fence.
I hope you're right but I would be really surprised if EK gets the number of resignations that people here are talking about. Yes some are pissed off but the vast majority are still content if not happy with EK.
I don't know what it will take for pilots to leave EK.
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Old 11th May 2018, 11:55
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Originally Posted by gtaflyer View Post
Wow...thereís no need to go watch Thanos click his fingers to make half Universe disappear we can just watch Emirates do that to their pilots.
Bahahahaha. Perfect. Made my day!
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Old 11th May 2018, 15:29
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Pilots who doesn't fall to the below category will still leave eventually.

- contented
- Comfortable
- With pre-existing illness
- Medically grounded
- No home to go back to
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Old 11th May 2018, 20:48
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Good to see the enhanced synergy is working !

Spare a thought for your code share buddies across the airport.

No increase in basic ( for 8 years) and , announced April 2018 duty pay increase 12 dhs / hr for Capts ...

I don't think it will do much to reduce the15% attrition rate ..
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Old 11th May 2018, 20:58
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Same song and dance every year.

Nothing will change for the better.

accept it and move on.
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Old 13th May 2018, 02:34
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I am guessing that if a flight is over sold and a freighter crew are dead heading back to DXB, they can now travel on the jump seats?
That way, there will be no loss of revenue.
Could that be a possibility?
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Old 13th May 2018, 10:35
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A much better option would have been an extra ALT, which could have been enjoyed at zero personal expense, by the whole family, in the comfort of the cabin.

If you believe the jump seat in conjunction with all the hoo-hah about lifting the restrictions on days off will result in regular trips abroad, you're as disillusioned as they are as to the staffing numbers. Lifting the restriction on days off was just lip service, as the bid engine is in place to ensure the flying program is covered. At present manpower levels (and levels in the foreseeable future), I doubt sizable day off strings will be possible. Add this to the fact they only said they would remove the restriction from the bid engine, and failed to promise that they wouldn't alter the results after a solution was derived (ATC), and you see my skepticism.

Jumpseat privileges might benefit the (minority) freighter pilots, single guys, or a few (semi-suicidal) commuters among the ranks. How it will be implemented remains to be seen. Years ago, they used to let you go airside in DXB on a standby ticket even without a seat in the hopes of no-shows at the gate. That highly sensible option didn't last long. They might figure out a way to streamline this process, but given their poor planning in other areas and their inability to give with one hand without taking away with the other makes me wonder.

Just wait until they've announced the improvement in the "efficiencies" of 4 pilot LRV flights. Making extra room on a jump seat, because there's a one in a thousand chance that a pilot may want to ride on that flight, having paid for a ticket, but with no space in the cabin will be floated as one of our great improvements. Excellent stuff!!!

Too many ideas were provided at the forum, and true to form they cherry picked the ones that were the cheapest. They polished the unattainable turds and presented it to us as part of the pay review, and labelled it as proof that they are listening. While it could be taken as a positive, they left much more beneficial, practical, and achievable options on the table.
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