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Old 30th Apr 2018, 11:33
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A 15% discount

Having a beer with a “freight-only” ex EK colleague a few weeks back, he informed me he was relatively happy, imagine my surprise when not to long ago he sent me an expletive laden msg informing me that his contract has been amended, meaning he will now operate pax flights at the discretion of his caring and humble employer.
15% saved on crewing cost, G wagons all round habibi.
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Old 30th Apr 2018, 11:54
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Originally Posted by falconeasydriver View Post
Having a beer with a “freight-only” ex EK colleague a few weeks back, he informed me he was relatively happy, imagine my surprise when not to long ago he sent me an expletive laden msg informing me that his contract has been amended, meaning he will now operate pax flights at the discretion of his caring and humble employer.
15% saved on crewing cost, G wagons all round habibi.
But how is it possible to amend a contract? It written on paper and signed by his employer is it not?
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Old 30th Apr 2018, 12:20
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Sad day really. Wonder how many of the 80 odd will resign and how many in the holding pool will still want to change over to the “new” contract?

My colleague today showed me a message from two of his freighter mates that say this is the final straw and are bailing ...

You just cannot make this stuff up.
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Old 30th Apr 2018, 12:29
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I thought the freighter contract always had this provision? It's one reason I so wholeheartedly rejected it. But, they still get the string of days off, right? So aside from the principal of the thing, does it really make any difference? You operate flights on your working days, and get the string of days off, as the most important element.
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Old 30th Apr 2018, 12:39
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Originally Posted by aeropix View Post
I thought the freighter contract always had this provision? It's one reason I so wholeheartedly rejected it. But, they still get the string of days off, right? So aside from the principal of the thing, does it really make any difference? You operate flights on your working days, and get the string of days off, as the most important element.
It does make a difference. You join the freighter contract on the premise you will fly less hours and will be free from the 2000 turns ( most during the entire night) that now are part of the boeing schedule. In return, you'll get a 15% pay cut on your basic salary, house allowance and provident fund. And now guess who'll be doing all these redeyes on open time report?
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Old 30th Apr 2018, 14:33
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I am shocked this has happened!
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Old 30th Apr 2018, 15:20
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Nothing surprises me any more. Keep it up EK there will be no one left soon
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Old 30th Apr 2018, 18:33
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Originally Posted by aeropix View Post
I thought the freighter contract always had this provision? It's one reason I so wholeheartedly rejected it. But, they still get the string of days off, right? So aside from the principal of the thing, does it really make any difference? You operate flights on your working days, and get the string of days off, as the most important element.
It makes ALL the difference. Guys signed up for long freighter only trips precisely to avoid all the night turns. Yes you still get the 13 days off however they can now roster stack the 28 days to squeeze in as many turns (and hours) as possible and you could potentially end up as exhausted as before for 15% ++ less pay.

I guess time will tell as the rosters start rolling out over the next few months.
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Old 1st May 2018, 09:52
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'This will be our summer of discontent', words spoken almost silently and behind double-closed doors at the EK HQ. What will they do about it? More of the same, I gather, turning a poor situation into a bad one, and a bad situation into a catastrophic operational meltdown. Can a habibi change its spots?
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Old 1st May 2018, 10:20
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Absolutely shocked about their stupity. A tad short of pilots and look what they do. 15% discount...i like the title of this threat.
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Old 1st May 2018, 11:08
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How do I become a Habibi I want to sign up
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Old 1st May 2018, 14:51
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I thought last summer was the summer of discontent? Or perhaps that was the summer before. I think three summers ago was the summer "that the wheels finally fall off". I wonder what will be the motto for the summer of 2019?
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Old 1st May 2018, 15:23
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Old 2nd May 2018, 06:18
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Let's also not forget that on the freighter fleet 3 of each of the block of days off you get each month were taken from your original leave allowance. The leave on the freighter fleet now 12 days not 42 as per the passenger fleet.

If this is true then now you really do have a 'B' scale pilot.

There is no hard limit on the hours you can fly, you are in reality getting the same amount of days off per year as the passenger fleet, (just shuffled into blocks), flying the same freight/passenger fleets but for 15% less salary and less housing etc. Hey presto a B scale.

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Old 2nd May 2018, 06:31
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I still cant understand how can they amend a contract?!!
Every thing is possible in this part of the world, depends who you are, who you know and how big is your bank account!
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Old 2nd May 2018, 09:16
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Originally Posted by Smoke mountain View Post
I still cant understand how can they amend a contract?!!
Every thing is possible in this part of the world, depends who you are, who you know and how big is your bank account!
Well... it sounds like you DO understand...
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Old 2nd May 2018, 12:33
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Originally Posted by Smoke mountain View Post
I still cant understand how can they amend a contract?!!
Every thing is possible in this part of the world, depends who you are, who you know and how big is your bank account!
I’ve lost count of the number of posts, from those who know the risk of entering into an agreement in good faith, written or otherwise . The advise was to treat this freighter contract with extreme caution ...
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