EK and the Rolls engines

[nolimitholdem]

@The Zohan - roger, got it.

"dispatch reliability is less than 80%" seems pretty fishy, but so does "effectively at par with the 777". I suspect the truth is somewhere in the middle. I don't doubt the reliability has improved since it's introduction. How could it do anything but improve from that tragicomedy?

Have any RR-engined ones been delivered?

[Capn Rex Havoc]

How could it do anything but improve from that tragicomedy?

Flown the 380 for over 5 years and only had one dispatch delay due technical.

Why is it only 777 blokes who dis the 380?

[4runner]

Sorry. Forgive me for not acknowledging Timmy and that you do it better. It won't happen again...

[trimotor]

Without being pro- or ant- either type..

Quite recently, I heard that the dispatch reliability for the 380 was touch over 1% less than the 777 (both in the very high 90's e,g. 99.7 for the 777 and a touch less for the 380), though the 380 was outside the contracted requirement.

TM

[nolimitholdem]

Relax, Capn Rex. Don't be so sensitive. The 787 had it's share of misfortune upon introduction as well. But my memory extends beyond five years to include somewhat amusing recollections of endless preflights when all one would hear on company were EK engineers telling some hapless 380 crew which circuit breakers to pull to try and get something working. Yes, it is more reliable now. Happy? Truthfully I couldn't care less about what anyone flies, I'm more interested in salting away enough coin to not have to fly either.

How about the question. Any RR-engined ones on the property yet?

[The Outlaw]

Tim the Enchanter

Summons fire without stick or tinder
From UK
Creates many fires

see video;

[The Outlaw]

I found this truthful vignette about how the superintendents deal with issues:

[anson harris]

Yes! Boeing Vs Airbus! I knew it wouldn't take you guys long.

[The Outlaw]

Anson

Nah...we're going to turn it into a Monty Python fest. In some ways it matches the subject matter quite nicely!

[777boyindubai]

http://m.arabianbusiness.com/emirates-rolls-royce-said-resolve-a380-engine-issue-655661.html

[notapilot15]

So if understand Timmy's logic correctly, when demand is sluggish there is no urgent need for smaller planes, but keep adding lots of VLAs.

[notapilot15]

Airbus is delaying delivery of 12 A380s, by Reuters
(or)
Emirates is deferring delivery of 12 A380s by Flight Global and Bloomberg

Depends on which way one wants to read. There is enough spin built in for everyone.

I guess they are running out of parking space and tugs to move them around.

[777boyindubai]

Published with acknowledgement and respect to Reuters:

Airbus postpones deliveries of 12 A380 planes to Emirates Airline
Dec 27 Planemaker Airbus said on Tuesday it was postponing the delivery of 12 A380 planes to Emirates Airline over the next two years, and added it would step up cost cuts to minimise the impact of these delays.

Airbus, whose main rival is U.S group Boeing, said six deliveries of the A380 would be postponed from 2017 to 2018, with another six postponed from 2018 to 2019, following an agreement between Emirates and engine maker Rolls Royce and a consecutive deal between Airbus and Emirates.

"Airbus re-confirms the target to deliver around 12 A380s per year from 2018 as announced earlier in July 2016. Further fixed cost reduction initiatives will be accelerated so the impact on break-even in 2017 is minimal," the company said in a statement.

Emirates Airline had said in November it was having some unspecified technical issues with Rolls-Royce engines for A380 jets. (Reporting by Sudip Kar-Gupta; Editing by Ingrid Melander)

[nolimitholdem]

I think I called it first.

I wouldn't be surprised if those "delayed" deliveries quietly become "non"-deliveries. With the face-saving reason that RR couldn't deliver on their promised performance.

But thanks for the shower, it was nice.

[777boyindubai]

Nolimit, yes I do believe you did. Good call. I don't believe there is much wrong with the performance figures on the RR engines. It was just an excuse to find a face saving way to back out. As Timi says "We just do it better!"

[donpizmeov]

So only 24 new buses instead of the original 30 next year. Holy ****e, the sky really is falling.

[Monarch Man]

Don, Id be VERY surprised if those 24 deliveries take place in the 2017 timeframe, and if they even get close, they'll be replacements, this is the beginning of the story where the 380 is going to be deployed with a little more common sense.
Theres only so many places outside of India where you can fill a 2 class up :-)

[donpizmeov]

The 2 class doesn't go to India. It's normally pretty full anyway.

[notapilot15]

Six next year is plenty. It would be even better if no deliveries and network gets rationalized.

75% network wide PLF along with 90B/year non-rev ASKMs is not a joke. Doesn't matter what PR says.

[fatbus]

Instead of EK pilots always getting into an A vs B thing you might want to be concerned about job cuts. EK is not being dragged down by the 380.