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Are the wheels off for the other 19 airlines on that list too? As WK has stated, that is 'normal' for all the major airlines Worldwide so please do not show your ignorance by implying it's just EK that suffers these events, especially if you are a professional pilot. If you selected the other airlines you'd see similar events.
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Are the wheels off for the other 19 airlines on that list too? As WK has stated, that is 'normal' for all the major airlines Worldwide so please do not show your ignorance by implying it's just EK that suffers these events, especially if you are a professional pilot. If you selected the other airlines you'd see similar events.
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Absolutely right. But now-a-days when mundane stuff like a tire burst, missed approach, oil leak warning, loss of comm for few minutes happens to other airlines... entire media world lights up and starts singing chorus. This is a new phenomenon, and guess who started this culture and paying for it!!!
SkyWest has 600+ planes doing 6-8 sectors a day.
SkyWest has 600+ planes doing 6-8 sectors a day.
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SkyWest has 600+ planes doing 6-8 sectors a day.
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Originally Posted by notapilot15
entire media world lights up and starts singing chorus.
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At least half of the airlines on that list have been involved in an accident with hull loss, serious injury or loss of life in the time Emirates has been operating, i.e. last 30 years.
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At least half of the airlines on that list have been involved in an accident with hull loss, serious injury or loss of life in the time Emirates has been operating, i.e. last 30 years.
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But not a peep about this incident or what happened to those 10 FAs. Are they OK and still employed or shipped back to home countries per SOP. Actually it came into light because it showed up in a BEA report. Airline, regulator and media were very quiet. From IFSDs to rodents, PR team makes sure to maintain complete silence on their end and full noise for competitors.
https://www.aeroinside.com/item/6353...-10-cabin-crew
I have seen a very appropriate comment on avherald,
carpets are very think in ME.
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Not saying anything about the training at EK (since I have no experience of training with them) but over at QR, they were specifically training on the 777 how to execute a go-around under all the scenarios listed in the FCTM (touchdown with speedbrakes extended - goaround, touchdown with speed brakes extended and T/L deployed - goaround).
Specifically we practiced in the sim the situation where TOGA was not available until after being airborne again.
On a side note, (in another airline) I was told off by a TRE for not prioritising pressing TOGA before advancing thrust levers. Whatever, I still advance my thrust levers before pressing TOGA...!
P.S I have been alarmed recently at the increasing trend in people calling 'positive rate' when barely off the ground - it drives me nuts and has to be nipped in the bud!
Specifically we practiced in the sim the situation where TOGA was not available until after being airborne again.
On a side note, (in another airline) I was told off by a TRE for not prioritising pressing TOGA before advancing thrust levers. Whatever, I still advance my thrust levers before pressing TOGA...!
P.S I have been alarmed recently at the increasing trend in people calling 'positive rate' when barely off the ground - it drives me nuts and has to be nipped in the bud!
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Quoting Dihaz..."over at QR, they were specifically training on the 777 how to execute a go-around under all the scenarios listed in the FCTM (touchdown with speedbrakes extended - goaround, touchdown with speed brakes extended and T/L deployed - goaround)."
You can still go-around after thrust reversers deployed at QR?
You can still go-around after thrust reversers deployed at QR?
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A go around is pretty basic stuff. Power n pitch, reduce drag.
Statistically, poorly performed manoeuvre . Again, boils down to reduced training or practice.
Perhaps pilots should be made to stay up all night and then do their sim checks under the influence of sleep depravation? ie simulate the real world of EK?
Statistically, poorly performed manoeuvre . Again, boils down to reduced training or practice.
Perhaps pilots should be made to stay up all night and then do their sim checks under the influence of sleep depravation? ie simulate the real world of EK?
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The crew.... what an interesting logic you have....
If you make a mistake because of the time of the night and the exhaustion and because THEY throw several things at you, expect you to fly within 10 kts and 50ft and as a result you now might loose your licence, probably losing your job and your whole carreer, and last but not least you family suffers because all of them will have to pack their bags.... you think this is the way forward.......
If you make a mistake because of the time of the night and the exhaustion and because THEY throw several things at you, expect you to fly within 10 kts and 50ft and as a result you now might loose your licence, probably losing your job and your whole carreer, and last but not least you family suffers because all of them will have to pack their bags.... you think this is the way forward.......
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5star.
That is what is already happening. (Not EK but neighbour).
Had my last OPC starting the briefing at 4am
It went OK. The end of day 2 tough (same timings) I was dying in there.
Trying to see the positive side it does mimic 90% of our operation. So maybe it is not that bad? PLUS the checker is in the same sad state as you are
Cheers and keep surviving!
That is what is already happening. (Not EK but neighbour).
Had my last OPC starting the briefing at 4am
It went OK. The end of day 2 tough (same timings) I was dying in there.
Trying to see the positive side it does mimic 90% of our operation. So maybe it is not that bad? PLUS the checker is in the same sad state as you are
Cheers and keep surviving!
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There is a interesting read in this week's Aviation Week...
http://aviationweek.com/commercial-aviation/learning-about-quicker-evacuation-emirates-flight-521
http://aviationweek.com/commercial-aviation/learning-about-quicker-evacuation-emirates-flight-521
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The other day, in one of those new layovers during which we change cabin crew ....
As I was doing the walk-around and spending some time with the dispatcher, a fatma-type CC came in the cockpit and started to challenge the poor F/O about the 521 incident.... he had the misfortune to answer something non-committal and appropriate in his mind - just to be answered bluntly that she knew better and that the involved crew had to be congratulated for "landing safely without the gear, which as you know is the most difficult thing to perform" (I don't know, I never tried) Once again, not wanting to disappoint her, my F/O replied something vague and polite ("Really ? maybe after all...") then she became a little bit pushy and he had to ask her to vacate the cockpit.
Then he forgot about it and just mentioned it in the evening at beer time, once they had left. Pity I missed that.
As I was doing the walk-around and spending some time with the dispatcher, a fatma-type CC came in the cockpit and started to challenge the poor F/O about the 521 incident.... he had the misfortune to answer something non-committal and appropriate in his mind - just to be answered bluntly that she knew better and that the involved crew had to be congratulated for "landing safely without the gear, which as you know is the most difficult thing to perform" (I don't know, I never tried) Once again, not wanting to disappoint her, my F/O replied something vague and polite ("Really ? maybe after all...") then she became a little bit pushy and he had to ask her to vacate the cockpit.
Then he forgot about it and just mentioned it in the evening at beer time, once they had left. Pity I missed that.