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When it is perceived, rightly or wrongly, there is a fear culture within an airline cultivated by those at the top, who is going to provide honest feedback? The Employee Survey clearly provided a few surprising answers so a few were fired from HR and now the top of the company says it wants to listen. I remember well the last time the top of the company engaged directly with the work force, it was not pretty.
The only way they will get realistic feedback is by creating an anonymous reporting structure but to do so would lose control of the answer. I know we have been recruiting because I see the newbies around EGHQ but for some reason the seniority list is not expanding at the same rate. This will continue until there are no penalties for providing the answer the top does not want to hear.
My feedback would be simple. All the employees want is to be trusted to do their jobs without unnecessary interference from those above. Butt out and let your experts do their jobs both on the aircraft and in the offices. Realise that petty rules instigated on the whim of an individual, to the detriment of the work force as a whole, are an abuse of power.
Great leaders wear their power lighty and trust those they have employed to do their jobs to the best of their ability. They have a multiplier effect and move an entire organisation forward with great strides. Petty dictators sap the energy from their employees and are detrimental to the organisation's goals. If you are in a position of power and see your influence ebbing away, along with the work force, you must decide which type of leadership role you have assumed and change if it is not working.
Asking for feedback has to be a positive step forward but please give us a confidential feedback system with the contributors protected from retribution rather than a portal link directly from our company profile. Just because you are paranoid does not mean they are not out to get you! I for one would be happy to provide constructive feedback given the chance.
The only way they will get realistic feedback is by creating an anonymous reporting structure but to do so would lose control of the answer. I know we have been recruiting because I see the newbies around EGHQ but for some reason the seniority list is not expanding at the same rate. This will continue until there are no penalties for providing the answer the top does not want to hear.
My feedback would be simple. All the employees want is to be trusted to do their jobs without unnecessary interference from those above. Butt out and let your experts do their jobs both on the aircraft and in the offices. Realise that petty rules instigated on the whim of an individual, to the detriment of the work force as a whole, are an abuse of power.
Great leaders wear their power lighty and trust those they have employed to do their jobs to the best of their ability. They have a multiplier effect and move an entire organisation forward with great strides. Petty dictators sap the energy from their employees and are detrimental to the organisation's goals. If you are in a position of power and see your influence ebbing away, along with the work force, you must decide which type of leadership role you have assumed and change if it is not working.
Asking for feedback has to be a positive step forward but please give us a confidential feedback system with the contributors protected from retribution rather than a portal link directly from our company profile. Just because you are paranoid does not mean they are not out to get you! I for one would be happy to provide constructive feedback given the chance.
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Blowie... Truer words have rarely been posted in this forum. I am tempted to cut and paste into AAR's feedback form or into a mail to the new - and very silent - ex- Paypal SVP-HR.
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EK will never fail! The titanic will never sink!
I have no doubt that EK is about to announce some crazy massive profit for the financial year. And somehow that just brings to mind the completely out-of-touch emperors of Rome boasting about the eternality of the Empire, while the hordes are right at the gates.
WAKE UP in the bouncy castle! Stop sniffing the sweet scent of each other's own BS and realize that the company is far more vulnerable than it appears. It's already incredible how quickly things have declined in a short period of time.
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IMHO the problem is they thought they were being very clever, stretching the elastic band further and further. 92 hours a month, unavailable leave, no credit for the leave you could get, no credit for ground duties, constant fear culture and confetti like warning letters, a warped sickness policy....I could go on ....however I think they have stretched the elastic to the point it will no longer spring back, and now things are critical.
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just wanted to underscore it by reminding that all empires crumble and fail eventually. And the collapses tend be sudden, unexpected, and spectacular.
...And somehow that just brings to mind the completely out-of-touch emperors of Rome boasting about the eternality of the Empire, while the hordes are right at the gates.
...And somehow that just brings to mind the completely out-of-touch emperors of Rome boasting about the eternality of the Empire, while the hordes are right at the gates.
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A little contribution to this topic.
I have decided to stop writing the blog, but it's like they love me so much they can't live without me, so they fired a very close friend of mine for writing a comment on my blog post on Facebook just to draw my attention again.
So, here it is.
https://donotflyemirates.wordpress.c...ction-results/
I have decided to stop writing the blog, but it's like they love me so much they can't live without me, so they fired a very close friend of mine for writing a comment on my blog post on Facebook just to draw my attention again.
So, here it is.
https://donotflyemirates.wordpress.c...ction-results/
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I'm sorry, all I heard was blah blah blah, bull**** bull**** bull****, blah blah, HR is listening, blah blah, we value you 
blah blah, crap on, crap on, yeah, whatever. Thats about when I stopped reading and hit delete.
Don't forget, we are less than 10% of the workforce, 5% if you extend the arms. 13000 responses, thats 130, (according to them) at best, pilots griping. 130 out of 3700, hey, they must be happy as Larry!!!!!!
It's a numbers game, and we are a minority. Unfortunately, don't wish for much.
Throw the masses a few dirhams in the atrium, and they'll think its Christmas come early.
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blah blah, crap on, crap on, yeah, whatever. Thats about when I stopped reading and hit delete.Don't forget, we are less than 10% of the workforce, 5% if you extend the arms. 13000 responses, thats 130, (according to them) at best, pilots griping. 130 out of 3700, hey, they must be happy as Larry!!!!!!
It's a numbers game, and we are a minority. Unfortunately, don't wish for much.
Throw the masses a few dirhams in the atrium, and they'll think its Christmas come early.
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Mrs M, your analysis of the percentages is spot on and IMHO that is how the 9th floor ostriches will read it.
Sadly for them though the whole idea of an Airline is to fly, something that is not easy to achieve without those to perform that task.
Without the "Lazy Pilots" all you have is another desert with aircraft parked on it.
Interesting times ahead............................
Sadly for them though the whole idea of an Airline is to fly, something that is not easy to achieve without those to perform that task.
Without the "Lazy Pilots" all you have is another desert with aircraft parked on it.
Interesting times ahead............................
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It's a pity more people did not fill in the survey, but once again, 'the rule by fear factor' took over. I had more than one person admit to me they did not fill in the survey because the reared the repercussions.
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Yes, I meant feared.
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14000 had the balls to do so. I guess the same group of doom mongers will avoid the offer from EVP to contact him too?
Now is as good a chance as any to write in. Use it or lose it ladies and gents. You can write on here all you like, it will achieve little. Or, you can do something constructive and likely to directly effect your quality of life by writing in to those that may change something. They know we're a demotivated workforce and they are short of front line staff, pilots, engineers and cabin crew. If you don't voice it now, don't come complaining on here next year when all the dust has settled.
This is as good a chance as we're going to get in this Company. Believe me!
Harry
Now is as good a chance as any to write in. Use it or lose it ladies and gents. You can write on here all you like, it will achieve little. Or, you can do something constructive and likely to directly effect your quality of life by writing in to those that may change something. They know we're a demotivated workforce and they are short of front line staff, pilots, engineers and cabin crew. If you don't voice it now, don't come complaining on here next year when all the dust has settled.
This is as good a chance as we're going to get in this Company. Believe me!
Harry
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It's the pigeons on the town square syndrome:
Something has to be done and someone claps their hands. The pigeons all fly up, circle and then land again in a different spot. Nothing has changed but their position. The only inconvenience is that by flying up every one dropped a cr@p and spoilt the town square even more.
They promise a "workshop" and want to implement what we might contribute to their mail-link. That's the clapping to make the managers fly up and cr@p.
They then ask for time. That's the circling.
Then they promise to implement some changes to improve the situation. That's the landing in a different spot by the same managers who will act exactly the same as before.
The only difference is that they now feel entitled to, because there was a "workshop".
They know exactly what they ought to do. The "workshop" being a loud and clear signal that nothing will be done or changed. They will try to sit it out and hope for some crisis somewhere in this sad world to be able to pick up the pieces of shattered careers, dreams and a lot of sitting on huge debts.
The only difference is that the moment where they themselves might live through a bitter crisis is coming closer and closer.
In the meantime they will continue to tell the nude emperor that he wears a beautiful suit.
(addendum: what really would have to be done is a FIRST STEP by EK, without asking or any kind of workshi....op. It needs a sign of bona fide, something we all really miss and what they know.
How about a "cost neutral" measure by taking away the useless 'not more than 5 days/7days off rule for planning and swapping, even with keeping the total flight hours. As we can't get all our leave, some none at all for more than 11 months, this might mitigate some family problems. That IS COST NEUTRAL and at least myself would take this as a tiny little white hankey in the developing war with the company. - - - I know, won't happen, someone would lose his ugly face .... At least it's a suggestion, isn't it?)
It's the pigeons on the town square syndrome:
Something has to be done and someone claps their hands. The pigeons all fly up, circle and then land again in a different spot. Nothing has changed but their position. The only inconvenience is that by flying up every one dropped a cr@p and spoilt the town square even more.
They promise a "workshop" and want to implement what we might contribute to their mail-link. That's the clapping to make the managers fly up and cr@p.
They then ask for time. That's the circling.
Then they promise to implement some changes to improve the situation. That's the landing in a different spot by the same managers who will act exactly the same as before.
The only difference is that they now feel entitled to, because there was a "workshop".
They know exactly what they ought to do. The "workshop" being a loud and clear signal that nothing will be done or changed. They will try to sit it out and hope for some crisis somewhere in this sad world to be able to pick up the pieces of shattered careers, dreams and a lot of sitting on huge debts.
The only difference is that the moment where they themselves might live through a bitter crisis is coming closer and closer.
In the meantime they will continue to tell the nude emperor that he wears a beautiful suit.
(addendum: what really would have to be done is a FIRST STEP by EK, without asking or any kind of workshi....op. It needs a sign of bona fide, something we all really miss and what they know.
How about a "cost neutral" measure by taking away the useless 'not more than 5 days/7days off rule for planning and swapping, even with keeping the total flight hours. As we can't get all our leave, some none at all for more than 11 months, this might mitigate some family problems. That IS COST NEUTRAL and at least myself would take this as a tiny little white hankey in the developing war with the company. - - - I know, won't happen, someone would lose his ugly face .... At least it's a suggestion, isn't it?)
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And at the risk of more people telling me to go away, sitting on the beach, with the dogs is a nice place to watch how all this will unfold.