EK roster
Joined: Jul 2000
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From: Everywhere
Hi folks - just wondering if you all feel that your thoughts on things at EK are shared by most? i.e. Are there any who make it work and are happy? With so many pilots and maybe 20/30 regular contributors here - what's the demographic/profile of people who are actually happy? Or are there very few who really are??
Thanks
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Thanks
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Joined: Sep 2011
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From: earth
Dude, get serious!
You are already stating that only 20/30 guys contribute to these pages, so asking if others think otherwise is spitting into the sea and then check the level rising.
According to the manasystems or whiteknights all contributors here are part of an infinite,whining and unhappy minority at EK and all others do not contribute because they are oh so happy.
(By the way: Why these astronauts still contribute, following their own logic, remains a mystery)
So it's up to you to decide if the apparently overwhelming majority at EK does not contribute and will therefore not answer to you are real and represent the situation more than those who take the time to enlighten you wannabees on these pages.
You are already stating that only 20/30 guys contribute to these pages, so asking if others think otherwise is spitting into the sea and then check the level rising.
According to the manasystems or whiteknights all contributors here are part of an infinite,whining and unhappy minority at EK and all others do not contribute because they are oh so happy.
(By the way: Why these astronauts still contribute, following their own logic, remains a mystery)
So it's up to you to decide if the apparently overwhelming majority at EK does not contribute and will therefore not answer to you are real and represent the situation more than those who take the time to enlighten you wannabees on these pages.
Joined: Jul 2000
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From: Everywhere
Ok mate - not trying to suggest that anybody is over-egging the pudding here! Just wondering if you know anybody who IS happy and what is so different about their situation??
Sorry but I'm not sure it's quite as altruistic as you make out... but thanks anyway!
those who take the time to enlighten you wannabees on these pages
Joined: Jun 2006
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From: Dubai
For the most part the only pilots truly happy at Emirates are the ones that have crap passports or come from crap airlines. That que is for you Ryanair pilots.
It has detoriated so much in the last few years that even the Canadians are starting to grumble.
I read on another thread that 200 pilots have applied to one airline and that 50 pilots have left in the last half year.
There are some that think EK is a good airline but start digging at their reasoning and one quickly finds issues that those few pilots are carrying.
With low pay and high work hours combined with no work rules and a company that does whatever it wants whenever it wants Emirates leaves a lot to be desired.
It has detoriated so much in the last few years that even the Canadians are starting to grumble.
I read on another thread that 200 pilots have applied to one airline and that 50 pilots have left in the last half year.
There are some that think EK is a good airline but start digging at their reasoning and one quickly finds issues that those few pilots are carrying.
With low pay and high work hours combined with no work rules and a company that does whatever it wants whenever it wants Emirates leaves a lot to be desired.
Joined: Sep 2014
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From: Dxb
380 roster
So the A380 roster is so good .. The FOs are afraid to share and risk having me put a spell on it
I am not having second thoughts
Many of you spent too much time at Ek and witnessed the deterioration of QOF as stated a myriad of times
But the way I see it .. Others who spent the same time at other major international airlines have witnessed the same
The population of the earth is growing .. The aviation training academies are coping $$$ . The airlines are not due to traffic limitations etc
Everything has deteriorated .. Not just the white uniform shiny bars world
I am not having second thoughts
Many of you spent too much time at Ek and witnessed the deterioration of QOF as stated a myriad of times
But the way I see it .. Others who spent the same time at other major international airlines have witnessed the same
The population of the earth is growing .. The aviation training academies are coping $$$ . The airlines are not due to traffic limitations etc
Everything has deteriorated .. Not just the white uniform shiny bars world
Joined: Apr 2014
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From: Dubai
Oh come on, it's Pprune for goodness sake, only us miserable chaps complain. Considering that I don't have a 'crap passport' or had made my way here from a 'crap airline' then by the logic of (the little-man syndrome plagued) cerbus I am one of these unhappy folk.
Now, regarding reading Pprune I find this recipe helps: take one large pinch of salt...
Harry
Now, regarding reading Pprune I find this recipe helps: take one large pinch of salt...
Harry
Joined: May 2006
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From: Hotels
I'm happy, got a good passport and been with the company since the last century. I have seen a downward spiral but have kept my head above water so far but only because I bought property early and lucked in. Sell by date rapidly approaching as kids have left but have no where to go that can offer the same lifestyle in the short term because I would go to the bottom of a proper seniority list and I won't go to China!
Would I join now? No! For one reason only. I cannot see with the present conditions how I could get to where I am now in a realistic timescale. The EK salary has diminished in real terms massively since I joined and the time to command means the relief of a Captain's salary will come too late.
My advice would be to make a comparison sheet of where you will be 10/15 years down the line. Include pay, where you will want to live, what you want to fly etc. and see whether EK ticks the boxes. At the outset for me it did, right now it wouldn't but if the T&Cs changed positively it might.
Would I join now? No! For one reason only. I cannot see with the present conditions how I could get to where I am now in a realistic timescale. The EK salary has diminished in real terms massively since I joined and the time to command means the relief of a Captain's salary will come too late.
My advice would be to make a comparison sheet of where you will be 10/15 years down the line. Include pay, where you will want to live, what you want to fly etc. and see whether EK ticks the boxes. At the outset for me it did, right now it wouldn't but if the T&Cs changed positively it might.
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 43
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From: Europe
AD
What's up with all these AD's (available days) 
These muppets just can't give an off day
.
It's either 91.99999999 hours per month or something less with all these f*uck1ng AD's.
Just wait for the new rostering system - it's just going to get worse.
For all those considering joining EK - do yourself a big favour and avoid. Especially if you are a new Cpt or a Senior FO with command on the horizon. Stick it out with your current outfit and be happy in the knowledge that the grass is not always greener on the other side - it certainly is not. (If you're unemployed that's a different storey)
Broken promises and an accelerated downward spiral in quality of life. Do not believe what the EK recruiters tell you on the roadshows - or what you see on those propaganda videos on the website.
As someone else said on this forum - a short haul roster for a long haul operation.
Rant over.....for now
These muppets just can't give an off day
.It's either 91.99999999 hours per month or something less with all these f*uck1ng AD's.
Just wait for the new rostering system - it's just going to get worse.
For all those considering joining EK - do yourself a big favour and avoid. Especially if you are a new Cpt or a Senior FO with command on the horizon. Stick it out with your current outfit and be happy in the knowledge that the grass is not always greener on the other side - it certainly is not. (If you're unemployed that's a different storey)
Broken promises and an accelerated downward spiral in quality of life. Do not believe what the EK recruiters tell you on the roadshows - or what you see on those propaganda videos on the website.
As someone else said on this forum - a short haul roster for a long haul operation.
Rant over.....for now
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,040
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From: 3.5 from TD
Sounds like emirates pilots need to work on their sickness rate.
Here at Cathay, ours is 17% and has peaked over 30% on some fleets and ranks.
Come on boys, PRAs are the only way to teach them how its done.
Here at Cathay, ours is 17% and has peaked over 30% on some fleets and ranks.
Come on boys, PRAs are the only way to teach them how its done.
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 56
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From: UK
I'm curious and looking for some rough idea of the scale of the problem.
If any of you had leave during part of a month in the last year:
If any of you had leave during part of a month in the last year:
- How many days leave did you have in that month?
- How many productivity hours did you do in the remainder of the month?
