EK Employing more Indians
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Didn't know EK ran p2f?
P2f are paid differently based on agreement that they enter into in return for a rating or some other silly notion...
However, what you are suggesting is a particular nationality is paid less to do the same job but based on nothing other than nationality.
As ridiculous as p2f is, as one sided as it appears, it still remains a contract based on supposed mutual benefits, I don't see that in your example.
You have now removed your post that this refers to....get confused?
P2f are paid differently based on agreement that they enter into in return for a rating or some other silly notion...
However, what you are suggesting is a particular nationality is paid less to do the same job but based on nothing other than nationality.
As ridiculous as p2f is, as one sided as it appears, it still remains a contract based on supposed mutual benefits, I don't see that in your example.
You have now removed your post that this refers to....get confused?
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Well as my and other European airlines do. EK could open a 'base' in Delhi and transfer people there on an inferior contract.
Infact why stop at pilots. Let's fire every Brit in every job in the UK, and replace them with an Indian counterpart? It's genius.
The salary is already low at EK saving them a lot of money. It is only attractive due to the tax-free status.
Infact why stop at pilots. Let's fire every Brit in every job in the UK, and replace them with an Indian counterpart? It's genius.
The salary is already low at EK saving them a lot of money. It is only attractive due to the tax-free status.
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Staff travel? errr no I don't I am a 747-200 Captain for Midex.
I am no longer involved in this discussion apprentley I am wrong about EK favouring westerners and that Indian pilots are plentiful in EK so no more to discuss. my point was originally saying there should be more Indians in EK! hardly racist is it
! and also a soloution to the unemployed CPL holders in India that they join EK on reduced salary, its a fair enough comment, I mean they don't have the experience.
IMHO I don't think it is that hard to fly your A380/777 aircrafts, I would even go to say that anyone could do it with the right training.
Anyone could be taught to drive a car, the same goes with flying an airliner, its not so difficult.
Why pilots think they are gods gift to aviation and need huge salary's and need to feel important is beyond me, you know some of the cab drivers in Dubai are on 3k AED per month for doing a similar job, moving people from A to B. I personally feel aviation and pilots should be paid normal salarys for doing normal jobs, these figures of 10k US per month is an outrage in my opinion, I would fly for much less, a fair salary would be 4k US maximum!!
anyways Im done with this thread, I have said my piece if you don't like it that's ok, but you know what....I speak a bit of truth there
I am no longer involved in this discussion apprentley I am wrong about EK favouring westerners and that Indian pilots are plentiful in EK so no more to discuss. my point was originally saying there should be more Indians in EK! hardly racist is it
! and also a soloution to the unemployed CPL holders in India that they join EK on reduced salary, its a fair enough comment, I mean they don't have the experience.IMHO I don't think it is that hard to fly your A380/777 aircrafts, I would even go to say that anyone could do it with the right training.
Anyone could be taught to drive a car, the same goes with flying an airliner, its not so difficult.
Why pilots think they are gods gift to aviation and need huge salary's and need to feel important is beyond me, you know some of the cab drivers in Dubai are on 3k AED per month for doing a similar job, moving people from A to B. I personally feel aviation and pilots should be paid normal salarys for doing normal jobs, these figures of 10k US per month is an outrage in my opinion, I would fly for much less, a fair salary would be 4k US maximum!!
anyways Im done with this thread, I have said my piece if you don't like it that's ok, but you know what....I speak a bit of truth there
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CARRY ON!! nothing more to say here except, perhaps if EK stood down all the local pilots then that would save money and more westerners could be employed. Cheaper piloting of the airline was the thread line was it not? Regarding the engineers, we need more people from close continents to help the already struggling line guys, now that would be more proactive GM.
Honestly, regarding Indian pilots, they are here in EK so answer complete. There is just a fact that they are not allowed to talk on the radios as it is designed to annoy people who troll the DXB frequencies and make silly statements on PPRUNE forums.
Honestly, regarding Indian pilots, they are here in EK so answer complete. There is just a fact that they are not allowed to talk on the radios as it is designed to annoy people who troll the DXB frequencies and make silly statements on PPRUNE forums.
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Midex Airlines is a cargo airline based in the United Arab Emirates.[1] Licenced for both cargo and passenger services in 2007, the airline concentrates on scheduled cargo services. Passenger service never started. Scheduled cargo service has been operated from Al Ain to Paris ORY for few months and subsequently closed due to lack of freight. A300 fleet grounded in May 2012. All crew members laid off without respecting the UAE labor law and the company has been brought to court to settle the dispute in June 2012. One B747-200F is in Jakarta from 2011 for C check. It is not expected to resume operations anytime soon due to missing spare parts. The two additional B747-200F that Midex announced have been bought on the official website never showed up in the UAE with Midex logo.
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No way is going manual a professional pilot... I would guess a indian national with a fresh CPL or perhaps just a flight sim pilot....But I do love the wind up.
On a serious note. I have been told that airlines are very, very careful when hiring Indians as unfortunately so many individuals from this nation have forged qualifications or bribed someone to get a licence. A sad state of affairs for the honest guys/girls from India.
On a serious note. I have been told that airlines are very, very careful when hiring Indians as unfortunately so many individuals from this nation have forged qualifications or bribed someone to get a licence. A sad state of affairs for the honest guys/girls from India.
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The idler - Hey don't slag off Midex we are the UAE number 1 airline and will soon over take EK and EY when our passenger operations start, I have been in talks with management to head up the project so watch this space and weep when you come to me begging for a job on one of our 747-200's!!
we are looking in to restoring the L1011's that are up at RAK and starting a new LoCo service to Jakarta and Hong Kong, new features that would include Boeing sky interior and onboard bar and casino. this is not yet confirmed yet due to loop holes in UAE Gambling laws.
We will see, but don't slag off Midex, we have started small just like EK did, and will flourish with our cost effective plan and the restoration of old classic aircraft!
EK spend 300 million on a 777 and pay over the odds for there western pilots, us at Midex can restore an L1011 and have it good to go for under 10 Million, plus our cost effective crew policy will make us UAE number 1 by 2020
we are looking in to restoring the L1011's that are up at RAK and starting a new LoCo service to Jakarta and Hong Kong, new features that would include Boeing sky interior and onboard bar and casino. this is not yet confirmed yet due to loop holes in UAE Gambling laws.
We will see, but don't slag off Midex, we have started small just like EK did, and will flourish with our cost effective plan and the restoration of old classic aircraft!
EK spend 300 million on a 777 and pay over the odds for there western pilots, us at Midex can restore an L1011 and have it good to go for under 10 Million, plus our cost effective crew policy will make us UAE number 1 by 2020
You know I really think this idea has merit. But instead of Indians think of the savings if it was pigmys. Less cloth in uniforms, they might eat less ration wise, less weight leading to fuel savings. This is revolutionary stuff.
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Personally I think flying is a privilege and lots of people would love to fly. I say we make the pilots pay for the privilege of flying a nice brand new airplane. why pay low wages to Indians when I am sure you can find people around the world to pay you to do the job.
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" You know I really think this idea has merit. But instead of Indians think of the savings if it was pigmys. Less cloth in uniforms, they might eat less ration wise, less weight leading to fuel savings. This is revolutionary stuff.
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ROFL ,now this is a style adoptable by somebody a little north.
(oh and btw I really like most of the Indians I know, pilot or not)
The don "
ROFL ,now this is a style adoptable by somebody a little north.
(oh and btw I really like most of the Indians I know, pilot or not)
Hey don't slag off Midex we are the UAE number 1 airline and will soon over take EK and EY when our passenger operations start, I have been in talks with management to head up the project so watch this space and weep when you come to me begging for a job on one of our 747-200's!!
