EK Employing more Indians
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Imagine how many of those CPL's could get online MBA's and replace the Executive Management Team too... Going Manual should be offered an Honorary Doctorate in Visionary Human Resource Management Muppet Theory from any of the Top 100 online universities offering non-certified fast track degrees....
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The reality of recruitment here, is that on balance, the good applicants get through and the not so good don't. Are there nationalities that do better than others, absolutely. Is it a conspiracy, not really, I am pretty sure they will take every Indian they can that is up to the specified standard.
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I believe the original OP was a wind up, unemployed CPL holder of any country , whether US , UK, AUS,NZ, India, Pakistan would not get a chance in any of the carriers but a few points if one were to look at the move from an Indian carrier to the middle east (say P1 A320/B737NG ) to a FZ/AA as a P1 or as P2 with EK/hide at/Qatar.
Purely from a financial POV , unless you could save twice or more what you'd save here in India , IMHO it's not worth being an expat. Remember, once you leave and don't renew your licenses >5 years, your ATPL papers have to be written again and we all know how that's gonna be.You will also give up your seniority which might not mean much now but talk to any 9W pilot who left 10 years ago .....
Yes today the difference in salary is 50% but I know that's not going to be the case in 10 years time .10 years ago , my take home as a P1 on a narrowbody here in India was 30% of what my take home is today , that's a 300% pay rise. I would hazard a guess to say that 10 years from now , the gap in pay & emoluments between our carriers and the middle east carriers would further narrow . The cost of living and education or simple things like domestic help etc. are always going to be way more expensive in these countries.
Now, a lot of the pilots that leave Indian carriers are not leaving purely on the financial package being offered. A chance to fly worldwide on a widebody or a change in lifestyle ( unhappy with dealing with the mess that is living in India) or just a change in scenery... some have left ,not liked it and returned too ....to each his own I say.
I like the suggestion about hiring pygmies and fuel/weight savings ...beancounters might actually look into it
masalama.
Purely from a financial POV , unless you could save twice or more what you'd save here in India , IMHO it's not worth being an expat. Remember, once you leave and don't renew your licenses >5 years, your ATPL papers have to be written again and we all know how that's gonna be.You will also give up your seniority which might not mean much now but talk to any 9W pilot who left 10 years ago .....
Yes today the difference in salary is 50% but I know that's not going to be the case in 10 years time .10 years ago , my take home as a P1 on a narrowbody here in India was 30% of what my take home is today , that's a 300% pay rise. I would hazard a guess to say that 10 years from now , the gap in pay & emoluments between our carriers and the middle east carriers would further narrow . The cost of living and education or simple things like domestic help etc. are always going to be way more expensive in these countries.
Now, a lot of the pilots that leave Indian carriers are not leaving purely on the financial package being offered. A chance to fly worldwide on a widebody or a change in lifestyle ( unhappy with dealing with the mess that is living in India) or just a change in scenery... some have left ,not liked it and returned too ....to each his own I say.
I like the suggestion about hiring pygmies and fuel/weight savings ...beancounters might actually look into it
masalama.
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In about 200 years from now, we all are gonna be hybrid mix of Indians and Chinese...
With the two largest population in the world... Sooner or later we're gonna get you
With the two largest population in the world... Sooner or later we're gonna get you
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nador 2707 says
And you substantiate that comment with statistically proven failure rate comparison of Indian pilots to the rest of the world.Or is it that you believe Indians don't get called to the interview .So , could you give us a figure , Nador, how does the Indian pilot fare at EK interview compared to the rest of the world????
Sorry guys, had to bite , couldnt resist .
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Going Manual,
There is one main reason that Emirates does not employ many Indian pilots. It is called an interview.
There is one main reason that Emirates does not employ many Indian pilots. It is called an interview.
Sorry guys, had to bite , couldnt resist .
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I've no idea about EK, but a company I used to fly for never interviewed Indian pilots because of concerns about the validity of their qualifications and logbooks. There was a perception that there was so much corruption in Indian aviation training that all Indian candidates were regarded as a risk. Obviously tough for all the genuine and able Indian pilots out there.
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@ Trim Stab
Unfortunately what a lot of companies dont realise is that about 80% of the Indian Pilots did not learn to fly in India
Most of them went abroad to countries like US , Canada , Australia etc and then came back and converted their foreign CAA licenses
Although I dont think the perception of Indian pilots outside India is going to change for the better any time soon ( especially after the FAA downgrade )
Unfortunately what a lot of companies dont realise is that about 80% of the Indian Pilots did not learn to fly in India
Most of them went abroad to countries like US , Canada , Australia etc and then came back and converted their foreign CAA licenses
Although I dont think the perception of Indian pilots outside India is going to change for the better any time soon ( especially after the FAA downgrade )
For the record the many indian pilots I have flown with at EK in my opinion are very capable and very professional!
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First time I operated to CDG is was cheerily greeted by an Indian ground staff.."welcome to France"...we are truly globalised
It seems immigration, racism and 'globalisation' is only applicable to Europe, UK, Australia, New Zealand, Canada and the USA.
Meh...
Scientifically, there is no actually classification of "Race"
Culture is a similarly imprecise term.
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Scientifically, there is no actually classification of "Race"
Culture is a similarly imprecise term.
"Racist", "Culturalist", "Nationalist" are all merely imprecise sub-sets of the term "Bigot"