Saudia refused an Israeli ticket sale in USA.
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Saudia refused an Israeli ticket sale in USA.
As a result the NY port authority is threatening to ban Saudia, due to discrimination laws being broken in USA.
Which brings the next point, as Dubai Tennis refused an Israli female player a few years ago, do UAE airlines, discriminate and refuse sell tickets to Israeli passport holders.
Conversly, do El Al sell tickets from New Your to Israel to Arabs.?????
Ramadan Kareem...
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edited cos i can not spell very wellllll
Which brings the next point, as Dubai Tennis refused an Israli female player a few years ago, do UAE airlines, discriminate and refuse sell tickets to Israeli passport holders.
Conversly, do El Al sell tickets from New Your to Israel to Arabs.?????
Ramadan Kareem...
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edited cos i can not spell very wellllll
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Wouldn't think it's such an issue as some make out. Had a guy on my flight last year in the full Hasidic rig, Kosher meal the lot. When he was filling out his arrival card into the US he had his passport on the table and the cover was in Hebrew...
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El Al has no restrictions on who they sell tickets to, but I would assume an Arab's check-in interview is a little more, uh, thorough than most. Also no airside transit in Israel, so you have to obtain an Israeli visa for the nationalities that require it.
KSA has direct airside transit, so having/not having a visa would be irrelevant.
IIRC, EK does not offer a Kosher meal, but QR and the Abu-Dhabi-based-airline-that-shall-not-be-named both do. I assume they bring it in from some European station if it's a hub-origin flight.
The UAE doesn't allow Israeli citizens to enter (although I believe they did before the Mossad incident a few years ago), but there are no restrictions on transits. Supposedly if you have an Israeli stamp, you need to be pre-cleared by CID regardless of nationality, but I haven't heard of that happening recently.
KSA has direct airside transit, so having/not having a visa would be irrelevant.
IIRC, EK does not offer a Kosher meal, but QR and the Abu-Dhabi-based-airline-that-shall-not-be-named both do. I assume they bring it in from some European station if it's a hub-origin flight.
The UAE doesn't allow Israeli citizens to enter (although I believe they did before the Mossad incident a few years ago), but there are no restrictions on transits. Supposedly if you have an Israeli stamp, you need to be pre-cleared by CID regardless of nationality, but I haven't heard of that happening recently.
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Quote: Israel does not exist we can not sell tickets
The airline’s director general, Khalid al-Melhem, said the discrimination policy was acceptable because Saudi Arabia does not recognise Israel as a country.
US federal law states that an “air carrier or foreign air carrier may not subject a person in air transportation to discrimination on the basis of race, color, national origin, religion, sex or ancestry”.
AviationBusinessMe.com | Saudia defends anti-Israel policies
OK, back to the drawing board....... I wonder who will win this battle, we know who will win the war...
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US federal law states that an “air carrier or foreign air carrier may not subject a person in air transportation to discrimination on the basis of race, color, national origin, religion, sex or ancestry”.
AviationBusinessMe.com | Saudia defends anti-Israel policies
OK, back to the drawing board....... I wonder who will win this battle, we know who will win the war...
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EK does serve kosher meals... I have personally served them within the last 12 months. They are just not very commonplace compared to Asian veg or Gluten free meals. Smell amazing too!
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My apologies. EK doesn't advertise that they serve Kosher meals, although now that I think about it, it's not surprising at all that they'd make one available if requested. Qatar and "United-but-in-Arabic" both list Kosher meals on their websites as one of the special options available.
I would guess too that it's something they will fill when requested by a travel agent or customer in the comments on the booking form but is not on the options since it's not asked for often enough. There is a space for 'SPML' and details to be added. I guess this is how it is done.
In all other respects they are like any other Kosher meal, down to the seals and types of items on the tray.
If enough people requested them then I suppose they would appear on the booking page. IIRC EK have something like 20+ SPML on offer...
Anyway we were talking about Saudia. I suppose things will always be a bit touchy in this region but seems to be changing- I asked immigration the other day what would happen if someone was to visit Israel- he just said to make sure they don't stamp inside the passport but to get the paper and there should not be a problem if it was just a tourist trip. In fact there have been people of Jewish descent taking tour groups to Saudi in previous years. It's all pre-approved and taken by a certain tour company, quite interesting really. It was in Time magazine I think...
In all other respects they are like any other Kosher meal, down to the seals and types of items on the tray.
If enough people requested them then I suppose they would appear on the booking page. IIRC EK have something like 20+ SPML on offer...
Anyway we were talking about Saudia. I suppose things will always be a bit touchy in this region but seems to be changing- I asked immigration the other day what would happen if someone was to visit Israel- he just said to make sure they don't stamp inside the passport but to get the paper and there should not be a problem if it was just a tourist trip. In fact there have been people of Jewish descent taking tour groups to Saudi in previous years. It's all pre-approved and taken by a certain tour company, quite interesting really. It was in Time magazine I think...
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An "Arab" would want to fly on El Al if he was one of the hundreds of thousands of Israeli Arabs.....some Muslim, some Christian.
Like the Muslims who lived under the Crusader kingdoms, where there business were protected, as well as their personal wealth, as opposed to the neighboring areas, where either were up for grabs, if hee became too wealthy.
There are Jews in Tunisia, Syria, Turkey, Lebanon, Yemen etc
Like the Muslims who lived under the Crusader kingdoms, where there business were protected, as well as their personal wealth, as opposed to the neighboring areas, where either were up for grabs, if hee became too wealthy.
There are Jews in Tunisia, Syria, Turkey, Lebanon, Yemen etc