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Qatari Pilots 60% pay increase

Old 15th Mar 2013, 00:36
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Qatari Pilots 60% pay increase

Is it true that the local Qatari pilots have had a 60% pay increase while the other pilots have had a pay drop? (no over-time and certain other allowances removed)
Do other ME airline local pilots earn more than the ex-pat pilots. EK, EY etc?

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Old 15th Mar 2013, 08:18
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Its true that the local pilots of these aviation giant countries earn well well more than expats, might be twice or even 3 times more than the average expats salary.
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Old 15th Mar 2013, 11:36
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The tramp,
Indeed,
I heard that Qataris second officers got recently a 60% increase( order from the gov.)( not sure about F/o and CPT)
So I guess soon or later Qataris second officers will make more money compared to a non Qatari captain .

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Old 15th Mar 2013, 12:11
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Why doesn't this surprise you? Emirati bank clerks earn the same as what I do sitting in the right seat of a 777! Get used to it!
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Old 15th Mar 2013, 12:59
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Why do Qataris deserve a 60% pay rise...and not the expats...????????

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Old 15th Mar 2013, 15:03
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Largesse springs to mind...common practise in the region. Take a look at those countries that can't afford it...
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Old 15th Mar 2013, 15:14
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What makes you think "deserve" has anything to do with pay in the Middle East?

It's their country and airline they can pay their citizens whatever they like, best not go comparing an expat contract to the locals unless you want to have blood pressure issues on your next medical.

Now if they gave half the expat pilots a 60% raise and not the other half there'd be something to talk about.
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Old 15th Mar 2013, 17:23
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This 'it's their train set' mindset is all well and good but if we wanted to do the same in the UK or Europe we'd be racist, sexist, ageist, discriminatory, nasty, slave dealing infidels.

Let them fly their own planes.
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Old 15th Mar 2013, 19:01
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Excuse me but what is the problem with locals pay increasing by 60%?
This is a government thing and not Qatar Airwys specifically.
Kuwaitis get a pay from the government as well on the side. Emiratis too.
You want them to pay all the expats too?
Maybe start paying pension for you guys like they treat locals?

Fact is that if the expats worked back home, they wouldn't make half the money they do here, that's we we are all here isn't it? Not to mention the fact that here basically ARE no jobs back home..

Invalid argument here.
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Old 15th Mar 2013, 19:05
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Why do Qataris deserve a 60% pay rise...and not the expats...????????
The answer is in your question.....
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Old 16th Mar 2013, 00:46
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Yes Qatari's got a 60% pay raise..... why, because.... well.... hmmmm.....??????? I guess they also need ridiculous amounts of $$$$$ to go with the amount of time off and good rosters they get..... cant be unbalanced i guess

All the non-qataris are just like the indians..... higher paid slaves, and unfortunately thats how they also view you. Many convince themselves otherwise.

Fact is that if the expats worked back home, they wouldn't make half the money they do here, that's we we are all here isn't it? Not to mention the fact that here basically ARE no jobs back home..
Actually more true than not, but saying that doies not give the right to remove other benefits etc from those that come here and make the business run! You only save on tax here and on some things that are subsidised heavily such as fuel.
The main reason you can save here is that the majority of the population is below the poverty line and hence cheaper to employ (Slaves). If you discount it then I guess you are morally bankrupt.
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This 'it's their train set' mindset is all well and good but if we wanted to do the same in the UK or Europe we'd be racist, sexist, ageist, discriminatory, nasty, slave dealing infidels.

Let them fly their own planes.
Yep, agree fully...... they would soon and very quickly realise that a HUGE payrise would be in order to keep the white slaves running the business.

I would love to see this small rumour going round of the QR pilots all calling sick en-mass come true. Wow, that would make things really change!

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Quote by gcc
"Excuse me but what is the problem with locals pay increase by 60%"!!

Excuse me.....??!

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Old 16th Mar 2013, 04:40
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This is a silly gripe. When I worked in Asia I was earning three times more than a local pilot.

Your pay is simply a function of what it takes to get you to leave your country. Fairness and equality are just not relevant.
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Old 16th Mar 2013, 07:06
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greetings,

before anyone jump the gun...yes its true all QATARI pilots got a jump of 60% of their basic.it is called social allowance backdated to SEPT/OCT 2012.this allowance is from the QATAR GOVERMENT for all QATARI employees and not only for QATARI PILOTS.infact the qatari pilots lost almost a year of this allowance since it was introduced by the goverment.
THIS IS FROM THE EMIR AND EMIRI DEWAN ( GOVERMENT OF QATAR ).this is stated as social allowance on the pay slip and its not included on the basic.
what the goverment wants to give its citizen is totally up to the goverment and nothing you and me can do about it..infact i for one is totally happy that they got it...
as for our pay rise..i am just hoping that the company audited result ending march would entitle us to some profit sharing and an increase on basic/housing.
this tread should be considered closed as nothing there to argue about..SAFE FLYING FELLOW PILOTS.
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Old 17th Mar 2013, 18:18
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it is called social allowance
social allowance to live in Qatar in order to compensate for the sky-rocketing cost of living ... ok

allowance is from the QATAR GOVERMENT for all QATARI employees and not only for QATARI PILOTS
All the QR employee are Government employee! Who's the owner of QR?


as for our pay rise..i am just hoping that the company audited result ending march would entitle us to some profit sharing and an increase on basic/housing.
... forget about it! and before talking about profit share you need to talk about profits!

SAFE FLYING FELLOW PILOTS
you got this one right! but what is flight safety?

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Old 17th Mar 2013, 18:29
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For years, anyone with blond hair and blue eyes get a ridiculously high salary, free education in the top private schools for their children, free home, car, ect.. while we Qataris just work by the day.

When we get a payrise, now its considered discrimination and unfair? Pleeeeeeeeeeeeease....
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Old 18th Mar 2013, 02:55
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Reverse discrimination is fair and just because of perceived past inequality?

Anyone given anything not based on the merits of hard work is a recipe for social disaster. Debt relief programs, social allowance etc.. in the GCC have produced nothing productive and only instilled an arrogant self righteous attitude.

Just like raising kids, you only get a screaming spoiled brat by not instilling a proper work ethos.

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Old 18th Mar 2013, 07:17
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On the other hand if there was a 60% pay rise for expats there would be no more pilot shortages .
Also the option to grow into excess of 1000 aircraft and win the ME aviation game.
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Old 18th Mar 2013, 13:35
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I don't see the problem?

I also don't see why it's such a problem for the government taking care of its people, and its not only the qatari pilots who got a 60% raise any sector that worked for the government got a raise....the law enforcement personnel got 110% raise. I'm sure no one will like if their own government take care of foreigners better than their own!
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Old 18th Mar 2013, 15:43
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Might it have something to do with stopping an uprising the like of which has been happening in the region during the last 2 years. Look after your people and keep them happy. Simple.
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