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Old 19th Jun 2012, 13:35
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I realize we live in times when huge sums of money, usually referring to bailouts, debts, and the like can make one a bit numb to the sheer number of zeroes on the figures being tossed about...but...

...even so, referring to something causing losses of (take your pick) 30 or 50 million dollars a month as "a blip", has gotta be one of the more amusing understatements in awhile. Sort of up there with calling a defect that grounds them for a month at a time "a bit broke". Spin, baby, spin.

Heck, 50 million here, 50 million there, before you know it, we're talking some REAL money...

Gimme a break. About the only statement I've read I agree with, is that Clark is playing high-stakes poker all right. And only a fool thinks that poker players can only win (even when they are playing with as stacked a deck as EK's got).

Sorry A380-Dude, buddy. (Can I call you buddy? Since you call me mate.) Where exactly am I wrong? The facts on the costs and the grounding times are from the article quoting Dear Leader, not my opinion. I think all of the night turns to HYD are starting to do your head in...
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Old 19th Jun 2012, 15:08
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Jeez nolimit, 2 post on two threads in a row that are just full of misinformation. I'd say you were losing your touch but you never had one.
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Moving on from the 'ours is better than yours' argument, which I don't quite get - an aeroplane's an aeroplane to me and the commercial aspect of it I leave entirely up to someone else - I'll fly what they tell me to fly - does anyone have any idea on the latest in-house rumours about 380 deliveries/command upgrades etc, for those of us who are waiting patiently in the queue?
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Old 20th Jun 2012, 18:03
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6, 380 deliveries by October according to fairly good sources, beyond that expect another 5 by end of financial year
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Old 21st Jun 2012, 06:20
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3 in sep 3 in oct all back on sched by years end, 4 330 and 6 343 gone as well and a steady retiring of the 330/340 after that.
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Old 21st Jun 2012, 08:58
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Thanks very much guys, info is greatly received...will be interested to see the effect of retirements vs effects of deliveries on 'bus courses for new joiners...
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Old 21st Jun 2012, 17:15
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380 news

I just read the online gulf news, as per Sheikh S. Al maktoum, Emirates to receive 4 A380s soon. And looking for about $1B to finance it.

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Old 22nd Jun 2012, 07:17
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A380 to Gatwick

Starting 6th of July, 1 out of 3 flights to gatwick will be serve by EK A380.
Source : Gulf news
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Old 22nd Jun 2012, 07:44
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No it's a one off anniversary flight for 25yrs service (or something similar) into LGW apparently.

A regular 380 service will probably start next July when both 380 piers are completed at the North terminal.
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Old 22nd Jun 2012, 09:57
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LGW

ER, you could be right...GN did not mention about a one off flight, but yes EK is celebrating its 25th yr.,since they started flying to Gatwick 6th July1987.

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Err...how is that even slightly relevent, Sandhound?

The 747-400 is a contemporary of the A300-600.

How much are THEY selling for?
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Old 23rd Jun 2012, 08:03
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Sand,

Yes I read the article, and I can't see that anywhere- in fact quite the opposite.

Can you quote the bit that has anything bad to say about the 747-8?
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Old 23rd Jun 2012, 08:34
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Be careful what you wish for ....

If fuel-cost is the argument, then you can throw the 380 into the same bin as the other four-legged/four-engined dinosaurs.

Was there a comparison to the T7's fuel figures in the article? No, and for good reason because there is no way any of the dinos can get the better ratio on any route.

And please don't come up with that 'comfort' or 'prestige' bs. In this article there was reference only to fuel burn vs. passenger number.

So if you want to boast the 380 you can do it comparing with a 60 year old design, but if you take a more recent Boeing chunk, you took the wrong intersection.

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Old 23rd Jun 2012, 12:19
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Sand,

In an all ecconomy layout, as per Air Austral, the 777-300er can carry 600 pax.

Fuel per pax does indeed come out in the A380s favour, by a whopping 1%.

IF you fill it!
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Old 23rd Jun 2012, 12:23
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Wiz , why did EK order 90 - 380 if the 777 is so much better ? By the sounds of you must know.
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Old 23rd Jun 2012, 12:25
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Geezus guys who cares, do something better with your Saturday night.
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Old 23rd Jun 2012, 12:58
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fatty,

Err- but didn't they ALSO order 165 777s?

Have a look and you'll see I haven't championed one over the other. I HAVE corrected when people have said things I thought inaccurate.

Fact is, both aircraft have their place and both can produce good profits on the right route.
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Old 23rd Jun 2012, 14:42
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Well that's great news and the taxi pattern will be easy to work out if it cant get under the bridge!

Had to love this simple maths equation.... and the 380 is not in its high density config.

Malaysian Airline System, which received its first A380 last month, will consume 1,181 barrels of fuel flying the 494-seat aircraft to London from Kuala Lumpur, according to Maybank Kim Eng Securities analyst Wong Chew Hann.

The carrier's 359-seat 747-400s use about 999 barrels of fuel on the same route, he said. Fuel accounts for about a third of airlines' costs, according to the International Air Transport Association.
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Old 23rd Jun 2012, 17:55
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After completion of the LGW bridge, BA especially flew in a LHR based 747 for the sole purpose of being the first operator to "taxi in"under the bridge.........in order to beat Virgin to it.

Sound familiar?

Good 'ol play-ground tactics

(we used to burn-up under the bridge at the end of each sim - good fun)
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Old 23rd Jun 2012, 18:08
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Ooh Ooh My ones bigger than yours.

For Pete's sake girls!

This playground mentality is frankly worrying, when you consider that you are supposed to be responsible for Xxx people's lives, xxx million$ worth of Jet + other things like company prestige etc.

Bottom line, we NEED all our aircraft to F###ing fly full and our "Adult" Commanders to carry the right amount of fuel..........for each sector and as the Commander, YOU, not dispatch are responsible for the uplifted fuel.

Now Bloody well GROW UP. Jeez.

Hat, coat, door.
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