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Old 15th Mar 2012, 23:34
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Hi Slowjet

That is a serious statement you make there. Sittingidly suffering from a psychotic breakdown ? Euh ... according to ICAO Manual of Aviation Medicine someone should revoke his license.

Or maybe your point is that individuals who fly around with a whole country are exempted ?

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Old 16th Mar 2012, 13:58
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Can you explain why Obama (among others) are on their knees, during the "traditional" IAPAC speach

Soooo.. why hasn’t the rest of the ME spoken up about Iran’snuclear development program?
Why hasn’tthe rest of the ME intervened in Syria? Do they expect NATO to fix the problem?
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Old 16th Mar 2012, 14:47
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Why shouldn't they (NATO) fix the Syria problem? They were very quick in bombing Libya and Gaddafi, reason being he was being brutal with the Libyans who weren't soldiers, Isn't Assad killing his own people as well, his being an iron fisted government even two western journalists have lost their lives at the hands of Bashars forces, still no intervention or tough stance from the west like they did with Gaddafi, whats the difference here?

Oh i forget could it be the incestuous relationship the western powers have with the Syrian leader with regards to Syria's black gold, almost 90pcnt of Syrias export oil is sold to Europe. could this be the reason NATO is criticizing Assad from a distance and unwilling to intervene, i could be wrong but the glaring difference in the way the US and NATO intervened in Libya is plain to see.

Again i could be wrong
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Old 16th Mar 2012, 17:56
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Yes you could be wrong... Ode. I beleive there was participation from some ME countries in Libya too. Although I can be wrong too.
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Old 16th Mar 2012, 20:13
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Why hasn’tthe rest of the ME intervened in Syria? Do they expect NATO to fix the problem?
The Arab League managed to do more than the West, albeit unsuccessfully, actually it was a bit of a farce. But at least they put people on the ground.
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Old 16th Mar 2012, 20:16
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At the end of the day, Syria is a Middle East situation to which if the Arab League wants to step up to the plate, then so they shall.
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Old 17th Mar 2012, 13:22
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@ Kijangnim,
I stand corrected, but my understanding was EU was syrias biggest trade partner before the embargo.

Or maybe the oil out of Syria is just not enough motivation for the west, at about 100,000 barrels a day and soon to become a net importer of oil by 2015 with dwindling oil reserves, unlike Iraq or Libya.

Again im just trying to understand the motivation behind the very decisive action against Iraq and Libya, including peddling falsehoods in the pretext of protecting Iraqis and Libyans against their tyrant Leaders, Is Assad a lesser tyrant or there just isnt enough motivation in terms of reward in Syria.
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Old 17th Mar 2012, 15:11
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od--you can be decisive in Libya because the 'neighbors' don't care. Syria is a little too close to Iran (especially considering the issue there) to be sending in miltary.
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Old 18th Mar 2012, 06:20
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Just re read, didn't say Syria was EU's biggest partner, i said EU was Syria's biggest commercial partner with regards to sale of their oil before the embargo.
Or if i rephrase EU was their biggest customer
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Old 20th Mar 2012, 07:56
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As to when, and if, Iran will be attacked in the name of Middle East peace and stability, I really don't know.
I would have thought that the whole point of attacking Iran is to undermine stability in the region. If the region was stable, then the respective countries might actually be able to cooperate, trade and make arms buying and oil selling decisions independent of the West. That simply wouldn't do

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Old 20th Mar 2012, 14:23
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Here is some tidbits for you American haters to munch on;

Before WW 2 there were not even two dozen democracies in the world. After the American Century started in 1945 (really much before that date) to the present day there are now over 100.

After the Cold War ended over 3 Billion people enter the market place. The steady hand of the US helped end the Cold War and allowed for so many people to enjoy their freedom.

More people apply to be citizens of the US then apply to all the other countries COMBINED. The US accepts more immigrants than all of the other countries COMBINED.

Except for the short period after WW 2 the US economy has been almost a constant 26-28% of the world GDP. Keeping in mind the US only has about 4% of the world's population.

The US aviation sector is down now to only about 35-40% of the world's flights. There are over 30,000 commercial flights in the US a day and this does not include the military, VFR flights, and private Biz jets which account for a lot more activity.

As was said earlier who do you want to run the world? Believe me I want the US to pull back and stop babysitting the world's cesspools. It doesn't get us much in GDP growth and actually hinders our economy having to bail out so many regions and rouge states. That money could be much better spent at home.

Stingily must have applied to the US for a passport and got rejected.
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Old 20th Mar 2012, 15:36
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The US and it's successful business model accounts for just under a quarter of Global GDP yet is less than 5% of the worlds population.

China has 9.5% of global GDP yet is heading towards 20% of worlds population. It is not a democracy and has a history of machine gunning democracy protesters. But as usual the savants on here pay no attention and direct their scorn west...must be great to be Chinese (unless you live in Tibet) ... model nation.

One note on aviation....each year the EK CRM dept put up a slide on accidents per 100,000 or is it 1,000,000?.,, Can't remember ...anyhow the accident rate on the numeric for N.America is .04, for Europe it's 100% higher at .08.., the rest of the world is considerably higher..with Africa & Latin America Of particular note. oz is coupled with Asia, so hard to tell.

Anyway contrary to Sitty's mad theories the numbers don't lie. Incidentally he had no problem pitching up for his 14 week bonus and 12% pay raise last May given out by what he describes as atrocious mgt.

Sitty please give us the name of three long haul international airlines that have great mgt.

Eagerly standing by.

Respectfully

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Old 20th Mar 2012, 16:17
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Eh..if you are referring to the fact that our flying hours went up that was four years ago.

My comment referenced last 'YEAR'

Relief boys and girls...surely he cannot be a pilot!

Mission accomplished...thanks sitty

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Old 20th Mar 2012, 16:34
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Sitty

If things are so bad here and your theories on currency and gold and all the stuff with which you have commented so strongly on are your core beliefs.

Why are you still here?

Seriously man...for most o us this is comical jousting...but it hits a nerve very time with you no matter the subject...at which point it's insult followed by crazy global US conspiracy theory after theory.

By your own admission you think EK mgt are crap.

Just tell us all why you don't leave?

Simple question.

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Old 20th Mar 2012, 17:54
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Filion don't act like all those soft c0ck emirates pilots that think Emirates is a good airline. "If you don't like it just go." WTF, O. Is that how you were raised? Why don't we all try and make this a good airline?
I do think the US is probably one of the best countries in the world (even with all of its faults, after all where else in the world are the poor people fat?) but I also think Emirates has a long way to go before it is a top airline for pilots.
You might have come from one of those regional airlines in the states flying those Furlough Jets but not all of us did that. Some did come from good airlines and think EK can improve on a lot of items in the contract including and starting with the pay. You prove the fool when you defend the company or at least prove where you came from. Stand up!
Emirates has a long way to go. Let raise the bar for everyone.
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Old 20th Mar 2012, 19:18
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Sittingidly
I'm really impressed by your insights and I can't stop reading your post amazing presentation of very factual acts.

You deserve all my respect and consideration

Fly high and fast but always stay safe
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Old 21st Mar 2012, 03:14
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Time to sign off on this thread..THR MCT & Sitty are here.

Swan...what you are missing (common with pilots) is that an airlines mgt are not indebted to pilots. Their job is to return the shareholder it's mandate (brand Dubai & profits) while attracting/maintaining talent.

I absolutely agree with voting with your feet. The only people voting with their feet right now are the thousands of pilots who are flocking to the EK interview.

No one here saying its perfect...but I do have the balls to move when it's better elsewhere

You?

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Old 21st Mar 2012, 13:40
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Filion Emirates is the best job you have ever had and will ever have. We know your "talent" level.
There are lot's of places where it is better and many of us have flown at those airlines. You have only flown at places that take jobs from those good airlines, thanking God every day that you have a "job".
Let 's see how good EK management is when they have to contend with unions, a real FAA and the Rule of Law. `Not to mention a government that bends over backwards to make sure its employees stay in line (unlike Kuwait) and the airline gets whatever it wants.
After all most if not all EK managers have failed at other airlines. Why do you think they are successful here but failed in the real world?
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Old 22nd Mar 2012, 12:51
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Actually "those" regional airlines flying "furlough jets" came about as the result of you guys at the "good" airlines allowing the outsourcing of flying in your coveted contracts. Had that flying not been allowed by you and your colleagues, those airlines would not have existed and you would not be blaming others for all your life's sorrows right now. I love it when guys hide behind their screen name to act tough.
God bless ALPA, the MECs who defect to management, and the disillusioned supporters of ALPA and their MECs.

Ya gotta love it.
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Old 22nd Mar 2012, 18:38
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Sittingidly....

I admire your energy to inform and arouse, especially your good intend towards the ones who choose the remain in wonderland. U are smack on with a lot of your observations. ME, Gold , Manipulation by the less than 1% etc etc etc.

Leave the sheep who do not want to jump or have the capacity or who chooses deliberately the blue pill instead of the red pill so they can stay in the matrix.

I have something for you , which will give a new dimension to your acquired knowledge (maybe you already know it):

John F. Kennedy Speech, April 27, 1961 : John F. Kennedy : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive

Every word has a meaning in the 19 min. with the most important being the last sentence(the ultimate goal of them), what u and I know.... but this now is not sittingidly or vickers23 but a president saying the exact same things as sittingidly over 50 years ago...
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