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Emirates (EK) Interview - all you need to know about it (threads merged)

Old 30th Dec 2016, 04:42
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Blue in 2006 a fella called TCAS told us that rosters and leave would improve by the end of the year. At the beginning of this year a fella called JA said leave and rosters would be fixed by summer. We are uncertain by which summer he meant. But I hope you see a common theme.
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Old 30th Dec 2016, 09:29
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Blue

They're hiring like crazy to expand again, not to improve the rosters. At least thats my idea. Hopefully its what you say....

During the selection they will paint a beautiful picture. Think again before you sign anything.. Your choice of course.

N.
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Old 30th Dec 2016, 16:40
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Blue, in a recent pilots meeting there was an acknowledgment of sorts that the exodus of pilots from EK is indeed happening, when pressed our chief guinness taster stated the case and then explained that "experts" were being consulted. On receipt of this information one individual with clearly more common sense than most..or perhaps a more finely tuned BS filter based the question, "why get experts, when you could just ask the pilots?" This rather sensible question inspired a good degree of vitriol from said guinness taster and confirmed that nothing is going to change fro the better...EVER.....nada..........zilch.


Up to you.
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Old 30th Dec 2016, 17:05
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Blue. Good luck in whatever you decide. It really is no one's business what you do when you decide. We have all of us different reasons for doing anything in life.
There has been a shortage of pilots for a long time. Airlines, where possible, don't want enough pilots. My comment is based on what I was told by a former colleague who is still there. He was told by a former DCP that policy was to be short of pilots. He attended a wash up 4 years ago, where JA stated it would get worse (guys were very upset then) before it would get better, and when it got better, it would be as bad as it was then. In the time intervening, they actually stopped hiring for a while.
You should be able to make your own judgement based on knowledge available to you on the company media. The bond now is 5 years instead of 3. The recruitment video emphasises lifestyle instead of career - ? You can ask to speak with people, and have your questions prepared, rather than their questions answered.
Have you heard of the term, 'island fever'. Once you're on the island, and you find you don't like it. How do you get out? I'm not suggesting that you'll be happy or sad there. However, once there!!
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Old 31st Dec 2016, 05:26
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Join Date: Jan 2014
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I'd be very careful when making the decision to join EK at the moment. As much as I badly want people to join to improve my 90-100hrs rosters there are several factors that would make me think hard about signing with EK;

- EK is on the verge of losing money at the moment - as per the half year results
- EK is inmerse in a transformation process to get back (or close) to its past profitability, this is translating at the moment in thousands of job losses and benefits reductions - not affecting pilots directly at the moment but, who knows?
- Age restrictions for command upgrades and massive slowdown in expansion mean that if you are in your mid twenties (and probably regardless of your age) your upgrade will take 10-13 years, and remember... very hard to get another decent job without current PIC hours

My advice would be to wait until dust settles. Maybe by the end of 2017 things look clearer. Flight Ops seems to be putting a bit more effort nowadays to improve things for pilots too - let's see if there are any positive developments in the following months.
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Old 31st Dec 2016, 10:03
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EK are hiring, not specifically because they are expanding, not to replace retirees, it is clearly to replace the large amount of pilots that are leaving the desert. Why would they have offered the BIG shiny jets to our propeller friends if it wasn't out of the necessity to get pilots in seats, no matter what the experience of those who join.

The bond went from 3 years to 5 years as new hires were coming and leaving sooner than expected. The bond is a pair of financial handcuffs to those who join and who will undoubtedly be out of pocket already with the move to the desert.

When you come with a family, the children will make friends, as will your wife and you will become miserable with many hours on the back of the clock turnarounds. When you decide the job is not for you, the heartache you will again cause your family by moving from one country to another will strain family relationships further.

Car loans gone? Living out allowance gone? Reduced hotel allowances. Hours increased. Lack of leave. 50C weather daily during the summer. Lack of school places. Forced staff economy travel with young children. Unhappy workforce. Huge delays to commands and many many more issues.

The consideration to come to the desert just now should not even be thought of as a consideration, more as a desperation. There are many who still come and pretty quickly the honeymoon is over and the BIG jet doesn't seem so shiny when it's viewed mainly at night.

Never come to EK and say you are unhappy. I am sure almost every new hire reads these pages and those who have been in the company a while are fed up with the moaning and will just reply with the likes of, "you were warned".

Happy 2017 fellow aviators.

J
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Old 31st Dec 2016, 17:03
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Blue126
Guess you got framed by the recruitment department, it is not too late to say no.
Just read along here, everything is written here!
Good luck!
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Old 1st Jan 2017, 04:26
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777boyindubai
I Didn't think of it that way! but it's alright, what you say makes sense.

Happy 2017 to you all.
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Old 1st Jan 2017, 10:37
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Join Date: Feb 2012
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had the offer to join ek sept 2015 from an eastern lcc, was not sure of the move and dug in deep, instead did my upgrade on the 320 and happily flying lhs from home to europe and back home. don't regret a thing, though I still have my mind set on long haul and multicultural experience. Hoping to start a family that keeps me around (in my late twenties) meanwhile building pic hours on airbus that really open doors and DEC opportunities look pretty tempting from now on.
Just for you guys to have a look at the other half of the glass.
Happy landings and happy new year!
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Old 1st Jan 2017, 14:47
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Have to join EK very soon. Now feel absolutely confused with all the things written here... Enthusiasm is diminishing...
Not afraid of working hard. Flying is a hard work. Training is a hard work..
But feel its too risky to get myself and my big family into that trap in case benefits are being cut. Also, if the airline does not grow anymore, what are the chances for career growth?
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Old 2nd Jan 2017, 07:40
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For goodness sake AEGOR! Enthusiasm is diminishing... Where have you been for the last 10 years, cos it's been this way at EK for at least that long.
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Old 2nd Jan 2017, 11:29
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I can wait...wow so exciting...
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Old 28th Jan 2017, 05:08
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What's the cut off age for DE FOs? Can't seem to find anything on the EK website.

With regards to having turbo prop time on a/c below 20 tonne and no jet time, I'm about 300 hours short of the required 3000 hours although most of my heavy turbo prop time has been PIC, I have over 10k TT most of which is PIC and turbine. Are they strict on these minimums, or do they allow for exceptions based on other experience?
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Old 28th Jan 2017, 05:54
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I don't think they publish their age maximums. They change their requirements quite often, and have unpublished requirements. Apply and find out.
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Old 28th Jan 2017, 08:03
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Any restrictions on the number of dependants for staff travel?
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Old 28th Jan 2017, 20:38
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Thanks atpcliff, I will apply.
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Old 29th Jan 2017, 02:48
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And joining this company with a big family of more than 3 kids is a killer. At least 4 months salary will go in to scholing... 4th kid you dont get an anual leave ticket for, every month you pay 600 aed for medical insurance etc. no inflation correction so every year you have less to spend.
Be aware...
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Old 29th Jan 2017, 05:36
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Originally Posted by Seaman Staynes View Post
Bell man - of you're worried about maximum age then really is EK the best option?
I hope you and all the other wannabes aren't doing this because you are chasing money you'll regret it.
With a clear head think to yourself can you fly the hours we fly, have the limited time off, be along way from home, have shitty rosters (lots of hours + few days off)+ long time to command now? Those are some of the major points many other smaller irritations that get under your skin the longer you're here!
Just dont want to be flying with you when you've realised it was a huge mistake and then you're here, big bond, unhappy etc etc!
Off flying - AGAIN!
Just leave man. No one wants to fly with a guy like you
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Old 29th Jan 2017, 14:19
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Yeah Flyingishere, why let the facts get in the way. You can add me to that list...
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Old 29th Jan 2017, 15:12
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Flyingishere

You dont have a clue, do you....
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