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Old 8th Sep 2010, 17:25
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EY flight diverts to KWI

EY543 to DAM has diverted today to KWI due to a passenger carrying a tank of kerosene on board the aircraft! the tank started spilling and the smell of gas was filling the cabin!
This shows how security in airports is being implemented!
nice one AUH!!!!
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Old 8th Sep 2010, 17:39
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I bet he got it through as contingency fuel
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Old 8th Sep 2010, 17:46
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Love it..........but its ok , its allowed this time of year as long as its less than 25 litres..........Manuals almost state that they are only valid for 11 months........Sure it wasn't the bad breath ?
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Old 8th Sep 2010, 19:35
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Imagine what gets loaded onto the A332F freighter as dangerous goods. Heard it doesn't even have a load master!

"Hey co-jo, you get up and investigate that funny smell of burning kerosene of the in the back, and I have control".....

I am sure it is better to have a loadmaster on the A332F!
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Old 8th Sep 2010, 19:46
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Nothing wrong with taking fuel on board as hand luggage. He/she was just unlucky that it started leaking
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Old 8th Sep 2010, 19:59
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Nothing wrong with taking fuel on board as hand luggage. He/she was just unlucky that it started leaking
You gotta be kidding????


Dangerous Goods

The law forbids you to take the following items on board an aircraft or pack them in your checked baggage.

Corrosives such as acids, alkalis, items containing mercury and wet cell batteries.
Compressed gasses – (Deeply refrigerated, flammable, non-flammable and poisonous) such as butane, propane, oxygen, liquid nitrogen, aqualung cylinders.
Explosives munitions, fireworks and flares.
Flammable liquids and solids such as lighter fuel, matches, paints, thinners and fire-lighters.
Radioactive materials brief-cases and attaché cases with installed alarm devices.
Oxidising materials such as bleaching powder, peroxides.
Poisons and infectious substances such as insecticides, weed-killers and live virus materials.
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Old 8th Sep 2010, 20:11
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He/she was just unlucky that it started leaking
Nothing to do with cabin altitude, of course. Don't they teach basic physics in Knoteatingham?
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Old 8th Sep 2010, 20:43
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You gotta be kidding????
It was sarcasm my friend of course it's bloody dangerous...
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Old 8th Sep 2010, 22:27
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Jetjock,
the loadmaster is not the only thing we miss in the frighter flights!
Yday A33F diverted to FRA because we dont have AWO aproval to perform CAT II in HHN and on final HHN was operating CATIII
flight got delayed 10 hrs for crew limitation...
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Old 9th Sep 2010, 00:00
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Sounds fishy to me...at least the reason you mentioned.

If aircraft is CATIII capable and approved and we have a CATII chart on board for HHN, what else do you need?

Chart on board usually means that the runway has been approved for corresponding AWO from Etihad's POV. Crew are definitely qualified and A/C should be at least CATII approved (not 100% sure though).

How about we're only CATII approved in HHN and that day it was CATIII conditions...? In that case diversion would be inevitable...Just an educated guess...
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Old 9th Sep 2010, 00:57
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Shortfuel has a good point,
However it is not only about the qualification of the crew or the equipment o/b the aircraft that allows you to shoot an aproach! state authorities can ammend normal procedures and restrict them for specific carriers (see US Ops Specs for EY) this because they want to keep a safaty margin for carriers that are not very familiar with specific airfields (like HHN). And yes in this case also CATII would have meant diversion for EY
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Old 9th Sep 2010, 10:46
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No action against the passenger

The passenger who carried a quantity of PETROL based product on board, was permitted to continue his journey on board, (perhaps with his flamable hand baggage), no police or security action. He must have a BIG brother.


In light of the DXB UPS, I was surprised that the company were disapointed at the diversion, as there was no actual fire.

NO PAN or MAYDAY.

I understand that the crew are being considered for disipinary action for a possible breach of FTL.......

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Old 9th Sep 2010, 12:30
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GLF - where did you get the info the company are dissappointed?

I remember a similar incident happening on a Ryanair flight from Rome a number of years ago. I can't remember the exact details but I seem to recall the couple of paddy's responsible got some jail time for endangering the aircraft. I think the company also got a bit of grief for allowing them to get it on board. Perhaps the crew should enlighten the company to how seriously other aviation authorities would view this.

I find it difficult to believe that EY would disciplne the crew for the diversion as it is clearly a safety issue. However if the guys subsequently busted some FTL's, mistakenly thinking they "were doing the right thing" that is a seperate issue. A company may well encourage you to break or bend a rule, but if you do, you will get no support from anyone if busted. Always Cover Your A$$
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Old 9th Sep 2010, 15:11
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Not sure where the idea has come from that EY are not employing Loadmasters on the A330-200F? I have met 6 guys who have been employed by EY as Loadmasters on this lovely new aircraft so it seems that as usual on here comment is being made without any real knowledge.
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sandpit, if I tell you I will be shot

you know the rules in the sand box, know nuffin then all is fine.

sorry this is on a need to know basis.

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Old 9th Sep 2010, 21:05
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usual on here comment is being made without any real knowledge.
I have heard from the big chief that the problem is UAE immigration not accepting a loadmaster on a gen dec as crew. Now fathom that out amongst all the other operators, including A6????
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Old 10th Sep 2010, 01:33
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Freighter Diversion

A330F probably diverted because the office jocks did not secure CatII or III approval. EY approval for Germany specifies FRA and MUC
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Old 10th Sep 2010, 02:03
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You are right, the 330F doesn't have a loadmaster. It has two and an engineer.
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Old 10th Sep 2010, 07:01
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Get back to the post !!

right

re the a/c diverting to Kwi

its Eid now but give it a day or two and when GCAA see this

i hope these boys have lots of spare cash cos i feel the fine is going to be very heavy

and EY will not give one cent towards it

this went beyond the 3 hrs max OUCH !!


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Old 11th Sep 2010, 20:32
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Well it was bring an aeroplane to work day!
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