Alpha Aviation Academy

[pfvspnf]

How many MPLs have been upgraded so far t captain ?

[fernandeztv]

How many MPLs have been upgraded so far t captain ?

None as company minimums is 4500hrs on type. So that would mean 5 years minimum since they started. Nobody qualifies for that as of now, but will do so in a few months time. Having said that quiet a few have moved onto EK, EY and QR over the past 2 years. For upgrade a seniority list exists and the upgrade courses have been scheduled over the next few months.

[CaptJack123]

Originally Posted by Integrated

CaptJack123, I went there, at considerable expense prior to where I am today. Be very careful is what I can say. The fees include nothing, additionally they lack instructors and it is run by managers who know nothing about aviation.

I got in, but decided against it for many reasons but it isn't what it's pitched as. Unless you're arab, I wouldn't go to that 'school' - and by school, I mean portakabin with 3 classrooms next to the cargo companies loading bays.

If you decide to go there, then good luck. But I am much happier going to a European flight school now after spending a long time researching (and in regards to Alpha, a lot of money too).

I appreciate the honesty, if you don't mind me asking; where did you end up doing your training? And where are you in the regard as for now.

How far did you make it into Alpha? What was the main reason for leaving? I do understand being in the Middle East, facilities aren't going to be of European or Australian quality finishes but at the end of the day, if it gets you into the right seat... what is there to complain about.

[CaptJack123]

Thanks for the info! I really do appreciate any external advice I can get.

I am leaving my options open, would you mind running through some of the fees ect. incorporated in the FTE Jerez course? I did a quick surf on the net and what I found so far looks pretty good. Just wondering if I could get some details on the corse from someone that knows their stuff a bit more than I do haha.

If I end up going through AA I will keep everyone posted in regard to what the latest is in terms of selection process/assessments ect.

Safe travels.

[CaptJack123]

That sounds like you are getting a bit more for your money, upon completion of the FTE Jerez will you gain employment in the right seat of a jet however?

How many hours do you graduate with? What is the total duration of training w/ FTE?

I'm just thinking; at the end of the day... yes AAA is on the expensive side of things and it doesn't look to be the most desirable facilities but after two years you come out with 1500hrs on type and an MPL that is transferable to an ATPL/CPL.

It gives you an easy opportunity to get your foot in the door at a Middle Eastern airline meaning you'll be making a competitive salary (tax free) to start paying back the initial cost of the MPL course only catch is, by the looks of things you have to spend two years in the loading bay of SHJ.

[Unavailable]

Originally Posted by Integrated

- Air Arabia will not allow you to undergo the conversion at 1,500 hours.

May I ask please where did you get this information from?? Cause I know many pilots who have gone through this MPL and got their ATPLs and some have mover to EK and the ones on the other side of the road!

[CaptJack123]

Originally Posted by Integrated

- Air Arabia will not allow you to undergo the conversion at 1,500 hours. They will use the MPL as a way to bond you to them and not under any circumstance leave. Be seriously careful.

Now I am just thinking out loud here: If that is the case, isn't that the goal? To be bonded w/ an airline in such early stages of your flying career to pump out a few years getting max hours? And after your contract is up w/ AA (if offered one), re-assess your options. Its not like a pilot whom gone through the scheme w/ 2,500-3,000hrs is gonna leave w/out an ATPL...

To me, this looks like the dream.. if the case of this bond.

[Dualinput]

Originally Posted by Integrated

Being bonded is fine. Nobody questions that. Not being allowed to convert your MPL into an ATPL is not fine. Ignore the sales patter, speak to people actually there. They are not authorised to change the MPL, which if you look at it as an extension of being bonded, then fine that makes sense - but if you are for some reason made redundant, you have no license at all - and unemployable by anyone else.

@ Integrated

Not sure where you getting this information but it's totally incorrect! Once the cadet finishes the hour requirement, he/she gets to do the ATPL skill test in the coming PPC. This solely depends on when the PPC comes up as per the schedule. Few cadets don't get the ATPL in the first shot because they bust their skill test. Please don't make baseless assumptions and mislead people.

Yes, some cadets don't get FO contract immediately at the end of 750 hrs, but ATPL is never an issue unless you bust it yourself..

Hope this helps..

Cheers

[pfvspnf]

You can most certainly convert to an ATPL after you meet the Experience, Skill and Knowledge requirements, yes ABY has to authorize it and in most cases they will. It might not happen at 1500 but it will be done along with the next PC. Many have gotten their ATPLs and many have left for EK and QR.

On the other hand the MPL training can take quite sometime, AA is not reliable and ABY will call the shots as to when they are ready to start and finish your training and most importantly give you employment afterwards.

Its still the best way to get on to the right seat. Yes there are CPL and fATPL holders getting on to airlines right away in Europe but its rare. I dont see those flight time requirements going down just as yet.

[hun777]

Hi. I am planning to apply for MPL program with AAA UAE. Can any body tell me if it's a reliable program to commit to? What are the job prospects after completion of the training? Thanks

[momo95]

All I know is it's bloody expensive. There are many rumours as to the reliability of the program however.

[momo95]

Does anyone have any info on the salary when joining Air Arabia from the MPL?

Do you get extra allowances for housing or anything like that on top?

[mavi8or]

Originally Posted by momo95

Does anyone have any info on the salary when joining Air Arabia from the MPL?

Do you get extra allowances for housing or anything like that on top?

Hello friend

5k AED during first 300-400 hours
10-20k AED After that until 1500 hours
If you are employed after that,you will earn 20+k AED

No information about allowances!!

Good luck

[momo95]

Thank you for your reply Mohammed. Are those figures per month ? Are you on the course may I ask?

[pfvspnf]

Wow those salaries are very low, will take years to make a return on your investment

[momo95]

They are quite low yes. Will anyone be wilking to discuss how they got by living on these salaries, what it was like post alpha etc? I'm trying to build an image of how things will likely be. Thanks

[123essame]

Hello, I was thinking of applying in 2017, purely because of the 1500H they offer after training. if I pass there entrée requirements ?. I've been hearing lots of good and bad staff about them. if you've been there please send me your input & any feedback regarding the school. kind regards

[pfvspnf]

So I'd like info on a few things from those on the inside;

- How many fail the training at sim or line training ?
- if everyone is passing , are the MPLs really that good? Training must be excellent
- how many are getting permenant contracts after ?
- is it true that there are massive delays at every stage ?

[shoeb]

Hi cadets
Does any body know about academy of aeronautics montreal in canada ?

[KarloTodorov]

Psychometric Assessment

Hello guys,

has anybody attended the psychometric tests in E.D.M.A. and what is it like?