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Old 16th Jul 2010, 22:22
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EK Medical for families....

Quick question, now I know the whole family has to have a medical done upon joining Emirates. I'll cut to the chase - my wife is a Type 1 diabetic. She has has total control over her diabeties and we currently purchase her medication and supplies which runs around $200 (USD) a month.

Will her having Type 1 Diabeties disqualify me from being employed by Emirates?

I am assuming that the insurance at Emirates won't cover her diabeties (or will it)?

Is there anyone in a similar situation as myself out there?
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Old 16th Jul 2010, 22:33
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I went to the road show, and the lady (LM, She's so fine btw) mentioned that pre-existing conditions wont be covered.
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Yeah, even our existing company in the US doesn't cover her which is a bummer. Oh well.... With that being said I know on the application section it mentions if family members have 'disabilities'. Well, I don't think this is a 'disability' as such, so should I mention this here or no need to - only to be mentioned as and when bought up in interview?
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This hot babe comes onto you and you fancy a flirt. As the conversation goes on you'll decide whether you are up for a shag. Are you going to start or end the conversation with "Sorry, I'm married?"

A parable of course but why would you put it on the application and why would EK not hire you. It is pre-existing, you will not be covered but it will not affect your recruitment.
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Thanks for the answer.
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BG, don't worry, it will not affect your employment prospects at EK.

The family medical scheme is basically the same as any other insurance, in as much as if there is a pre-existing condition, it will not be covered (which I guess is fair enough?).

The entire recruitment process is aimed at YOU the candidate and there is no requirement for you to state any family medical issues, however even if you did, it would not affect anything. You would just be made aware that you would be responsible for the costs relating to her illness.

Hope this helps?

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The EK insurance scheme is a scam. They dont cover anything anymore if they can weasel out of it. That is how they made $ 1 Billion profit. Keep discovering.
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What a pathetically immature post.
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Not sure why you think this way, but this is fact. I have experienced it and so have friends of mine and their families. I dont wish you the same, but you need to open your eyes. Emirates is a commercial organization and the clinic has a severely restricted budget due to the economic crisis. The way medical issues are processed now is a real conflict of interest and I dont think concern for our well being is winning. Sure the clinic will do the bare minimum but that is all you will get if they can justify it. If you look closely, all referrals come with a disclaimer about not covering charges. I think it is only fair to paint a complete picture for someone asking for information and others who read it. Sorry if you disagree.
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Yeah Joe pathetic and immature. Mate of mine just had £20,000 worth of treatment in a private clinic and didn't pay a cent. Same story for lots of friends and families. I hear the prostate exams are free too. Go get one, you'll feel a lot better!
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Old 5th Aug 2010, 11:55
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The care provided by the Doctors and Nurses at the clinic is very high. The vast majority of them are UK-qualified. They run specialist clinics for Dermatology, Asthma, Paediatrics and Gynaecology. They have excellent knowledge of which specialists to refer to in Dubai.Recently, EK has taken a greater interest in ensuring that pre-existing conditions are not treated by outside referrals. But, that is what everyone signed up for. Eg pre-existing isn't covered. People who are covered do get excellent care. I wish you and your family well with the potential move.
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Epithets and advise aside, I am glad the coin has two sides. What I am hearing in the last few posts sounds like what I remember it being in the past and what I have said is true, not something I have made up to prove a point. Just because it didnt match your point of view dosent make it pathetic. Your statement only reflects your own level of maturity boys. I will say I am glad to hear the positive views posted by others about the clinic and as I said I am glad the coin has two sides; it's about time you took that view as well.
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If you login, they disappear. The website knows you IP address and the advertising (pays you know) is there.

FYI.

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The care provided by the Doctors and Nurses at the clinic is very high. The vast majority of them are UK-qualified. They run specialist clinics for Dermatology, Asthma, Paediatrics and Gynaecology.
...apart from the patient who had his bowel perforated which ultimately led to L.O.L. for him. Forever.

And the patient who had a DVT misdiagnosed as "gout" and was sent to Singapore where he collapsed in the terminal.

And the patient who had his skin biopsy results read to him by the admin guy on the desk who read someone else's result by mistake. Instead of hearing about his positive result, he was told of a negative result instead and he thought he was fine. The guy who answers the phone reads out your test results!! He also asks you what's wrong with you when you want an appointment.

And the patient who stopped breathing under anaesthetic and had to be resusitated.

And the patient whose broken leg was set wrongly.

And the patient whose bone re-set operation led to his nerves being damaged for months and arm useless.

And the patients (wives and CC) who have their PSs administered by SE Asian nurses instead of qualified gynos and come out bleeding.



Some of the doctors are great; but there's been a significant number of complete "horse-doctors" over the years.
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Old 8th Aug 2010, 18:06
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Hi Sataybox,

How many of the patients you mentioned were treated by the doctors from the clinic?

At least 4 of the examples you quote were clearly hospital cases. Nothing to do with the docs at the clinic.

Clearly the system that allows the admin guy to read the results is the fault of lousy management at the clinic who havent arranged a good system. The reception staff ask what is wrong to refer you to a doc with expertise in certain areas. Not for any other reason.They have 2 VP's for Medical, 1 for Dental and an SVP. And a huge shortage of doctors. One more resigned today.

As for the SE Asian nurses, I can't comment.

But, the care we have received has been excellent.

If you want to complain, it would greatly assist a lot of good people in the clinic by complaining to the SVP (he is currently away for nearly a month) PM me if you want his direct email.

Sorry for the thread creep, EGGW.
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Yes, some were referred to other "specialists" for treatment. Like any town, there are specialists here with good reputations, qualifications, training and experience, who charge a lot, and "specialists" whose cred is not so good, who charge a little less. Guess which ones EK will pay for?

Hint: think of ANYTHING else EK pays for where they have a choice between the top of the range and the bottom.

If they farm out your treatment for something serious, you can expect to be operated on by someone like Dr. Nick Riviera.

As for why the admin guy gets to ask you what's wrong with you when you call for an appointment, I know why they maintain this policy (tightfistedness) and it is still an unacceptable practice. The doctor/patient privilege is a cornerstone of modern medical practice in any civilised part of the world. Not so here because they are too cheap to pay for enough staff to operate (properly) the clinic they boast and BS about to prospective new-joiners.

It sounds like you're in the know. Why not ask your friends there about the PS situation. Maybe they lift their game for wives of pilots but for the CC, it (I'm informed) a different story which is not followed in most places the girls come from.

But, the care we have received has been excellent.
Yes, for run-of-the-mill cases it is usually sufficient. But any serious medical condition???
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Originally Posted by Sataybox
And the patient who had a DVT misdiagnosed as "gout" and was sent to Singapore where he collapsed in the terminal.
Except he wasn't SENT, but was already there...

On the medical side I've found EK clinic and medical to be excellent - on a par with BUPA in UK... We've certainly had 1000s of dirhams more treatment than I've paid in Then again broken arms can't be helped

The only downside is trying to get an appointment with the Doc you wish to see!!
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Old 9th Aug 2010, 20:17
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I know pre-existing conditions are not covered as you have all said.
Does that also includes pregnancy?
My wife will be pregnant by the time she gets down there. Does that mean we can't have the baby in Dubai?
Anyone who had this problem?

Many thanks
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Old 9th Aug 2010, 21:03
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You can have the baby in Dubai - just remember that EK won't pay the bills... I seem to recall that you had to have had a certain number of months service before your wife starts brewing a bundle of joy! Not sure what it is now...
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