QR Flt Ops 'Management' - The Laughter Factory
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Some of the above posts demonstrate perfectly why QR may have a few problems.
Stop attacking new post holders just because they are new post holders. If you feel under threat because you have a new boss it would normally be because you have some kind of "special relationship" with his predecessor.
If the new guy is fair then you have nothing to fear.
If the old guy was corrupt then you may be in deep ****!
Either way this is progress!
This is Qatar Airways and this is a sad 3rd World Airline.
The really sad thing is that we are inches away from seriously competing with the other GCC airlines. The only thing that is holding us back is the CEO who would be better suited to running a small Indian supermarket!
The same guy that fires cabin crew if he sees them the using a mobile phone, or flies as the CEO of this airline wearing a shirt covered with hearts and stars like a sad littlle gay boy on the first flight to South America, is the weakest point of Qatar Airways.
Get rid of him and this airline has every opportunity to prosper!
I don't suppose the Al Thani Family read this. But , if any of your staff do you should advise your bosses that Mr Al Baker is doing huge harm to the reputation of your country. We all know that he is a pathetic individual who gets off on the abuse of junior staff.
The International Flag Carrier for the state of Qatar deserves better than this
Stop attacking new post holders just because they are new post holders. If you feel under threat because you have a new boss it would normally be because you have some kind of "special relationship" with his predecessor.
If the new guy is fair then you have nothing to fear.
If the old guy was corrupt then you may be in deep ****!
Either way this is progress!
This is Qatar Airways and this is a sad 3rd World Airline.
The really sad thing is that we are inches away from seriously competing with the other GCC airlines. The only thing that is holding us back is the CEO who would be better suited to running a small Indian supermarket!
The same guy that fires cabin crew if he sees them the using a mobile phone, or flies as the CEO of this airline wearing a shirt covered with hearts and stars like a sad littlle gay boy on the first flight to South America, is the weakest point of Qatar Airways.
Get rid of him and this airline has every opportunity to prosper!
I don't suppose the Al Thani Family read this. But , if any of your staff do you should advise your bosses that Mr Al Baker is doing huge harm to the reputation of your country. We all know that he is a pathetic individual who gets off on the abuse of junior staff.
The International Flag Carrier for the state of Qatar deserves better than this
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Deserthawk9 i like your way of thinking .
First and last problem is CEO AAB . Actually i would say he is the only reall problem in QR .
Imagine QR without 100 ACN starting with " it is not allowed " or most of them starting with " it has been brought to my attention " followed by " i like to remind you that it is not allowed and you are under QR sponsordhip and if you dont you will be terminated ..." all this rubbish he make EVPOs or CT,CP to write or the Cabin Crew Mr Snake write or small man him self .
Who made reporting colleagues SOP in QR ? = CEO
Who made CS/CSD's more influential then a Capt ? = CEO
Who is doing hire and fire sytem ? = CEO
Who block people from upgrades ? = CEO
Who is trying on cabin crew onpromotion flights ? = CEO
Who spends Qatar $ on cameras to spy crew ? = CEO
Who terminate cabin crew an pilots ? = CEO
Who call's EVPO in middle of the night ? = CEO
Who is stating on TV that he could run Boeing ? = CEO
Who's clereance cabin crew need for marriage ? = CEO
Who blacklist people as if he is minister of FA ? = CEO
Remove this evil and you will have healthy AIRLINE
First and last problem is CEO AAB . Actually i would say he is the only reall problem in QR .
Imagine QR without 100 ACN starting with " it is not allowed " or most of them starting with " it has been brought to my attention " followed by " i like to remind you that it is not allowed and you are under QR sponsordhip and if you dont you will be terminated ..." all this rubbish he make EVPOs or CT,CP to write or the Cabin Crew Mr Snake write or small man him self .
Who made reporting colleagues SOP in QR ? = CEO
Who made CS/CSD's more influential then a Capt ? = CEO
Who is doing hire and fire sytem ? = CEO
Who block people from upgrades ? = CEO
Who is trying on cabin crew onpromotion flights ? = CEO
Who spends Qatar $ on cameras to spy crew ? = CEO
Who terminate cabin crew an pilots ? = CEO
Who call's EVPO in middle of the night ? = CEO
Who is stating on TV that he could run Boeing ? = CEO
Who's clereance cabin crew need for marriage ? = CEO
Who blacklist people as if he is minister of FA ? = CEO
Remove this evil and you will have healthy AIRLINE
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Why all the sudden it got quit? are you guys happy with the little changes? 
cause there still allot of anger and frustration in the 320. 4 resignation recently and 3 (that I know of) to come within the next few weeks. and it looks like the CEO red this thread witch is a good thing I hope he do so he'll get a gleams of what's going on in the 320. WE NEED HELP PLEASE. Whoever making DECISION (if any) in this fleet need to GO. the largest fleet in the company, the most frequent flights and the one with more problems need someone with high level of management and communication skills and lots and lots of commonsense.
CP 777 nice start. best of luck
Ainkhaled thanks for starting this thread
cause there still allot of anger and frustration in the 320. 4 resignation recently and 3 (that I know of) to come within the next few weeks. and it looks like the CEO red this thread witch is a good thing I hope he do so he'll get a gleams of what's going on in the 320. WE NEED HELP PLEASE. Whoever making DECISION (if any) in this fleet need to GO. the largest fleet in the company, the most frequent flights and the one with more problems need someone with high level of management and communication skills and lots and lots of commonsense.CP 777 nice start. best of luck
Ainkhaled thanks for starting this thread
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New 777 Fm
At least, the new Fm looks to be more open that the previous one, I wonder if it was someone before?. We do not see 
DO NOT DISTURB signs in chief pilots doors anymore.
Lets see what happens now. As my granpa says couldn't be worst.
Happy landings.
Capt Banana.
DO NOT DISTURB signs in chief pilots doors anymore.Lets see what happens now. As my granpa says couldn't be worst.
Happy landings.
Capt Banana.
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I heard that it was 29 new joiners. Arrived in Qatar for the 777 but not yet started sim training and have been told they will be moved to the 320 or 330.
Motivation during training could be a problem and I guess they will leave the desert as soon as they can
Motivation during training could be a problem and I guess they will leave the desert as soon as they can
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Pilots with narrow boy type rating are moved to the 320 fleet, even some of them with high hours will get a chance to fly the 330.
This is one of the most correct decisions taken by QR.
I agree that some of them planned their life to join as Direct Entry 777, they should have been told before they join, but it was wrong from the middle management in the first place to allow this practice.
They might feel some unfairness, but that what the 320 pilots felt for the last 3 years.
I would like to know how you would feel being stuck on your 320 fleet for 3 or 4 years, just to see the new non type rated joiners jumping to the wide body fleets of your airline while your career is put on hold?
Yet if I am jobless, or if my company is going down….. I would be happy to have any type to fly and support my family.
So if you decide to stay, do your time on the 320 and move forward like in any other respectable airline.
In behalf of all the 320 pilots, I would like to thank whoever is responsible for this decision.
This is one of the most correct decisions taken by QR.
I agree that some of them planned their life to join as Direct Entry 777, they should have been told before they join, but it was wrong from the middle management in the first place to allow this practice.
They might feel some unfairness, but that what the 320 pilots felt for the last 3 years.
I would like to know how you would feel being stuck on your 320 fleet for 3 or 4 years, just to see the new non type rated joiners jumping to the wide body fleets of your airline while your career is put on hold?
Yet if I am jobless, or if my company is going down….. I would be happy to have any type to fly and support my family.
So if you decide to stay, do your time on the 320 and move forward like in any other respectable airline.
In behalf of all the 320 pilots, I would like to thank whoever is responsible for this decision.
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should have been done from the beginning, management will have their silly excuse for previous f**k up as always. 
Almost ALL B777 arr to DOH set by the pool for 3 to 6 month doing absolutely nothing waiting for training slots (lack of instructor) they were told. Do the math it’s by the millions (appx 1 to 2 million/ month).
Then trying to be smart and save by moving hotels for much lower quality for few $ difference, no over time, sh**t food, plastic cutlery, low quality uniform….etc.
Almost ALL B777 arr to DOH set by the pool for 3 to 6 month doing absolutely nothing waiting for training slots (lack of instructor) they were told
. Do the math it’s by the millions (appx 1 to 2 million/ month). Then trying to be smart and save by moving hotels for much lower quality for few $ difference, no over time, sh**t food, plastic cutlery, low quality uniform….etc.
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Just FYI the plastic cutlery and the aluminum container due to an incident with one Captain who chip his china plate with the real cutlery and accidentally swallow a piece of it and had a bleeding mouth for the rest of the flight. its a true story.
And yes if you have no wide body experience get in the back of the line just like every one else. and you should be happy that you got a job any way. the next thing you know this poor schmuck who walked straight to the 330 (non type) and I've been here for 4 years on the 320 doing double BAH doing 12 hours shift and getting peanuts he'll be ahead of me for the 350 and the 380. what happen to my seniority, my loyalty and my hard work for the last 4 years. is this fair?
And yes if you have no wide body experience get in the back of the line just like every one else. and you should be happy that you got a job any way. the next thing you know this poor schmuck who walked straight to the 330 (non type) and I've been here for 4 years on the 320 doing double BAH doing 12 hours shift and getting peanuts he'll be ahead of me for the 350 and the 380. what happen to my seniority, my loyalty and my hard work for the last 4 years. is this fair?
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C1999,
calm down,I see from your post(s),that you have nothing good to say about no-one or the company,rather than shooting your mouth off with all the F words and mentioning peoples initials look at the facts and then if you don't like what you see i'm sure the grass is greener somewhere else, for you.......
calm down,I see from your post(s),that you have nothing good to say about no-one or the company,rather than shooting your mouth off with all the F words and mentioning peoples initials look at the facts and then if you don't like what you see i'm sure the grass is greener somewhere else, for you.......
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Return of Mr Squeaky Voice
Some may remember this excerpt from the post that kicked off this thread....
You pay a big price for this though - Akbar will own you even more and you will have to do all his dirty deeds and feed him with nothing but the best 'intelligence' (lies) on what is happening. Akbar has a long history of these re-hires, look at the snake that now manages Akbar's beloved Premium Terminal. He originally got fired, then rehired to look after Al Maha, spent all his time feeding lies about the PT manager not doing the job 'correctly' and in no time that person's position is made untenable, they resign and our friend gets the job.
The classic example of this is the A/EVP(HR). None other than Mr Useless himself. Originally he was GMHR but he got fired. -Right decision, he is useless. He was replaced by a professional (EVPHR) but after a few months when his new job clearly didn't work out he comes sneaking back and Akbar rehires him. Of course this is without consultation with the EVPHR who suddenly has to find him a role. He is now an SVP, with a new car and a villa in the smart end of town. Over the coming months he gets to work in undermining his boss and eventually is dealing with Akbar direct. Over time the EVPHR is isolated and loses credibility. The individual concerned is no push over and digs in hoping that good sense will prevail. Unfortunately normal corporate rules do not apply in QR (Akbar always believes the lies) and the EVPHR's position becomes completely untenable leaving no choice but to resign. Mr Useless does not get it all his own way though since his much more competent rival (the other SVP) is put in as A/EVPHR. However that is just temporary and after a short time Mr Useless is promoted back to where he started but only in an 'acting' capacity. What will it take to get rid of this creep?
Sorry about this digression from the rumour of Squeaky's return but it just exemplifies what a completely bonkers and corrupt outfit Qatar Airways really is. Does anybody have any info on the rumour that Akbar himself is/ has been under investigation over the summer? Alas it would be too good to be true.
Another big kid to whom we can now say farewell is the oily and talentless squeaky voiced clot that masqueraded and a well informed and powerful ally to the CEO. He certainly kissed enough CEO posterior to be given the role but alas he overcooked it. Drunk on his own power and self importance he made enemies very very rapidly, particularly the CP B777. The 777 honcho is something of a guest artist in the corridor of power and is very much the court jester. Be very careful though for if you underestimate him you are in for a big surprise since he is very powerful and well connected (a nephew of the QCAA Chairman). Alas RN chose the wrong guy to tangle with and he was soon found wanting and got himself fired for impropriety with the recruitment process – namely hiring too many of his Brit friends.
Well believe it or not the A/CPT was publicly heard to say that the shiny new CPT will be none other than RN, Mr Squeaky Voice himself. There is nothing quite like Qatar Airways with its ability to fire people and then re-hire those that are the most useless and give them a promotion to boot. Clearly life in Jet2 and its Portacabin offices wouldn't have been good enough for this whinging clown as he would actually have had to work for a living there. Prima donna behaviour having no place in that blunt, no frills, 'get the job done and work all hours' type of outfit. Thus what better to do than to get back in touch with Akbar, promise him everything and stab all the other incumbents in the back, then hey presto you come back to Doha on more money and with an even better shiny new villa away from other pilot accommodation.You pay a big price for this though - Akbar will own you even more and you will have to do all his dirty deeds and feed him with nothing but the best 'intelligence' (lies) on what is happening. Akbar has a long history of these re-hires, look at the snake that now manages Akbar's beloved Premium Terminal. He originally got fired, then rehired to look after Al Maha, spent all his time feeding lies about the PT manager not doing the job 'correctly' and in no time that person's position is made untenable, they resign and our friend gets the job.
The classic example of this is the A/EVP(HR). None other than Mr Useless himself. Originally he was GMHR but he got fired. -Right decision, he is useless. He was replaced by a professional (EVPHR) but after a few months when his new job clearly didn't work out he comes sneaking back and Akbar rehires him. Of course this is without consultation with the EVPHR who suddenly has to find him a role. He is now an SVP, with a new car and a villa in the smart end of town. Over the coming months he gets to work in undermining his boss and eventually is dealing with Akbar direct. Over time the EVPHR is isolated and loses credibility. The individual concerned is no push over and digs in hoping that good sense will prevail. Unfortunately normal corporate rules do not apply in QR (Akbar always believes the lies) and the EVPHR's position becomes completely untenable leaving no choice but to resign. Mr Useless does not get it all his own way though since his much more competent rival (the other SVP) is put in as A/EVPHR. However that is just temporary and after a short time Mr Useless is promoted back to where he started but only in an 'acting' capacity. What will it take to get rid of this creep?
Sorry about this digression from the rumour of Squeaky's return but it just exemplifies what a completely bonkers and corrupt outfit Qatar Airways really is. Does anybody have any info on the rumour that Akbar himself is/ has been under investigation over the summer? Alas it would be too good to be true.
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Hi Mr Ainkhaled
U might be right in many of your observations. Specially about the power of the CEO and the many incompetent people he has placed in the middle management
But when it comes to RN I personally think you are wrong.
Don’t forget that he has been here since the beginning and knows how to play the game down here. He is a well known face and many line pilot actually like the guy.
At the same time he is one of the most competent instructors in Qatar Airways. Nice and calm. Not making thinks more difficult than it is.
Hope he will surprised you
SU in Ainkhaled
U might be right in many of your observations. Specially about the power of the CEO and the many incompetent people he has placed in the middle management
But when it comes to RN I personally think you are wrong.
Don’t forget that he has been here since the beginning and knows how to play the game down here. He is a well known face and many line pilot actually like the guy.
At the same time he is one of the most competent instructors in Qatar Airways. Nice and calm. Not making thinks more difficult than it is.
Hope he will surprised you
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Anyone knows what happened and KH is out of the safety office. It is a shame because in my opinion he was an asset for the company.
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in and out
Who care any more ?
One monkey /donkey in and other monkey/donkey out .
Same same all the time no major change will in general will not change anything in QR . Maybe few more memos and thats it .
Small man just maintain his position . When god take him i will dance on his grave .
One monkey /donkey in and other monkey/donkey out .
Same same all the time no major change will in general will not change anything in QR . Maybe few more memos and thats it .
Small man just maintain his position . When god take him i will dance on his grave .
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One and only person control QR regardless of who seat in the CT,CP,EVPO ,TRTO ... office they all answer same phone call :
Ring Ring ( at 02 :00 night ) AAB: suspend Capt s/n ****** , Terminate F/O s/n ******
Answer : YES SIR WILL DO ( remain office position )
Option : NO SIR YOU ARE WRONG( removed from office ) bring another in
Ring Ring ( at 02 :00 night ) AAB: suspend Capt s/n ****** , Terminate F/O s/n ******
Answer : YES SIR WILL DO ( remain office position )
Option : NO SIR YOU ARE WRONG( removed from office ) bring another in
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You'd have to be kidding right?
The absolute IDIOT that's replacing him is the most incompetent useless d-ckhead in QR management! Talk about the devil-you-know. This clown (ideal member of the Laughter Factory) will make life on the 300/330/340 Fleet a monstrous joke! He was the same bozo that was kicked out of management a few years back and now his Daddy (2-I-C of Syria) has got him a job back in the office so he can continue the path of destruction he started when he was (laughingly, as his tech knowledge is zero) Chief Pilot Technical!
If you can't change fleets to the 777 where some sanity prevails, it's time to go!
The absolute IDIOT that's replacing him is the most incompetent useless d-ckhead in QR management! Talk about the devil-you-know. This clown (ideal member of the Laughter Factory) will make life on the 300/330/340 Fleet a monstrous joke! He was the same bozo that was kicked out of management a few years back and now his Daddy (2-I-C of Syria) has got him a job back in the office so he can continue the path of destruction he started when he was (laughingly, as his tech knowledge is zero) Chief Pilot Technical!
If you can't change fleets to the 777 where some sanity prevails, it's time to go!