Ek Runners (absconders - not the Nike guys)
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To all..
I, like most, am not sure how many are "running" to Korean, Turkish, or anywhere else. However the company knows almost exactly how many are, at least, applying to other airlines...
For most airlines we will apply to, we need to get a "Letter of Certification" from the GCAA office here in Dubai. When they (GCAA) get a request from an EK pilot for one of these, they advise EK. One of the ladies in Boeing office had her computer screen exposed at a most opportune time recently. There on the screen was an email from GCAA stating a request from one certain EK pilot for a letter that was addressed to Korean. The Company has a very good idea of how many are attempting to jump ship.
..Just FYI
Jinglie'd
I, like most, am not sure how many are "running" to Korean, Turkish, or anywhere else. However the company knows almost exactly how many are, at least, applying to other airlines...
For most airlines we will apply to, we need to get a "Letter of Certification" from the GCAA office here in Dubai. When they (GCAA) get a request from an EK pilot for one of these, they advise EK. One of the ladies in Boeing office had her computer screen exposed at a most opportune time recently. There on the screen was an email from GCAA stating a request from one certain EK pilot for a letter that was addressed to Korean. The Company has a very good idea of how many are attempting to jump ship.
..Just FYI
Jinglie'd
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I do have to laugh at Ed's weakly (sp) propaganda message to the troops..United Airlines (is it them or another US carrier..not sure, can't be bothered re-opening the no doubt virus ridden mail) announces another round of furloughs...and some subsidiary of Lufthansa making pilots redundant (who cares!!)
..but wait..while Ed seems to be very keen on telling us how bad things are (outside of EK)..there doesn't seem to be any mention of;
1. Korean's plan to double its 400 strong expat crew,
2. Parc Aviation actively recruiting experienced 777 drivers for Asiana
3. Turkish Airlines recruitment
4. German Freight carrier recruiting 777 guys.
mmmm.....would seem a little one-sided on the industry report Uncle Ed.
Still, I guess you think we're all stupid enough to beleive your propaganda.
I think someone should do another youtube version of Hitler in his bunker..shouting at his staff for allowing all those disloyal pilots to leave and join other operators. (Hitler and sleeping pilots...YouTube - Hitler gets angry with pilots for flying over airport )
..but wait..while Ed seems to be very keen on telling us how bad things are (outside of EK)..there doesn't seem to be any mention of;
1. Korean's plan to double its 400 strong expat crew,
2. Parc Aviation actively recruiting experienced 777 drivers for Asiana
3. Turkish Airlines recruitment
4. German Freight carrier recruiting 777 guys.
mmmm.....would seem a little one-sided on the industry report Uncle Ed.
Still, I guess you think we're all stupid enough to beleive your propaganda.
I think someone should do another youtube version of Hitler in his bunker..shouting at his staff for allowing all those disloyal pilots to leave and join other operators. (Hitler and sleeping pilots...YouTube - Hitler gets angry with pilots for flying over airport )
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Love to see the Bunker with TCAS, ED, AAR, TCDM et al...
Yes Ed is economical with the news, what else can we expect from a bare faced liar.
The carriers mentioned are looking for exactly the type rated pilots EK have shafted so often and have taken for granted. These airlines are targeting EK.
EK itself cannot find anyone of a decent enough quality who is type rated to join and are forced to accept those with much less experience than was previously the case, just ask recruitment.
EKs pool is dry and its experienced pilots the source for others. The aircraft types EK operate have generally faired better in terms of job security and they are the same types seeing increased demand worldwide. 777, 330/340/380, EK has them all, treats the pilots who fly them like sh*t making the option to leave one worth serious consideration.
EK will have to go all out just to keep the level of pilots it has to replace those who are going to leave. There is no flex, no extra cover its all been taken away.
Yes Ed is economical with the news, what else can we expect from a bare faced liar.
The carriers mentioned are looking for exactly the type rated pilots EK have shafted so often and have taken for granted. These airlines are targeting EK.
EK itself cannot find anyone of a decent enough quality who is type rated to join and are forced to accept those with much less experience than was previously the case, just ask recruitment.
EKs pool is dry and its experienced pilots the source for others. The aircraft types EK operate have generally faired better in terms of job security and they are the same types seeing increased demand worldwide. 777, 330/340/380, EK has them all, treats the pilots who fly them like sh*t making the option to leave one worth serious consideration.
EK will have to go all out just to keep the level of pilots it has to replace those who are going to leave. There is no flex, no extra cover its all been taken away.
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are you talking about the Captain formerly known as tartan guy?
The thing which when rejected by all, female AND male, took revenge by reporting the Canuck who was drinking. All in the interests of safety and responsibility of course...
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What happens if you leave EK and break your training bond before the three years?
What would happen if after breaking your training bond, you flew into the UAE with another carrier.
Does EK have any legal actions available working with UAE customs?
What would happen if after breaking your training bond, you flew into the UAE with another carrier.
Does EK have any legal actions available working with UAE customs?
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What happens if you leave EK and break your training bond before the three years?
If have any outstanding debt here, you will be frog marched off to jail as soon as you clear immigration
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FO shortage/runners
Maybe this is on thread a bit more, but I was called this morning, at 0730, to ask if I'd take a Xxxxxx flight departing at 1030. Funny thing is, my stby didn't begin until 1200. 
I declined...
Would this have happened at your previous company? Not at my 2 previous, both ALPA represented, not ever. In fact, my rest period clock would have been reset to -8hrs from when we got off the phone.
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I declined...
Would this have happened at your previous company? Not at my 2 previous, both ALPA represented, not ever. In fact, my rest period clock would have been reset to -8hrs from when we got off the phone.
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