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Originally Posted by Watchdog
your example is correct - but not relevant to MY (or Instant Hooligan's) comment regarding checking evita/FOIP on my day(s) off.
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You know what I miss? I miss the old days when I first got here and every tool I flew with thought that this was the G golly greatest place on earth. Everyone thought they were God's gift to aviation and had a financed P.O.S. Land Rover in the companies' garage just to prove it. Play dates, get together's, BBQ's, foolish property purchases and snubbing those who didn't gulp down the companies load with enthuasim! We would all look to the Big Bright Shiny Buildings while completely ignoring the conditions of those doing the building. As if anyone here is any different then the guy cleaning the toilet. We are all just tools in someone's dream. I don't know whether to celibrate your enlightenment or feel saddened that you've joined the jaded millions.
Hmm, think I'll celebrate, with a beer so I don't get used on my day off.
PS I don't give a damn about my spelling mistakes.
P PS Keep buying sand while the smart ones buy Providence.
Hmm, think I'll celebrate, with a beer so I don't get used on my day off.
PS I don't give a damn about my spelling mistakes.
P PS Keep buying sand while the smart ones buy Providence.
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Idleretard - I'm not sure how you don't understand the simplicity of just saying NO.. A rostered xx day is YOUR day - FULLSTOP!! They can't "get you" if you don't want them to!
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Has the FCI been re-issued yet? Is the relevant sentence still part of it?
Whiteknight, maybe we're talking about different concepts here. I'm not referring to you being called on the phone whilst on XX days and asked to operate a flight on a day off to which you, me or anyone else would naturally say NO.
It's the concept of you having more than minimum days off in a month and crewing replacing one of them LATER IN THE MONTH with a duty which you discover the next time you log into the portal. As you know, when you log in, you are "forced" to acknowledge the change.
This already happens with, for example, equipment substitution or any day of a reserve roster. The SAME process will be used to grab your day off.
When done this way, it is not a request. Congratulations, you have just given up a day off.
For the chest-beaters above, if you are in the middle of a group of days off, those days will be safe since you do not need to log in. They won't even bother trying. But you cannot protect those XX days if there's a duty between now and when they start later in the month. You're required to check for changes before any duty. This is when they will "get" you. Do you follow this?
Now, as was pointed out on Pg1 of this thread, the FCI in question was withdrawn, but as TCED said, this is because the value of the callout pay was incorrect. Has the FCI has been re-issued yet? There's little doubt it will be and that the sentence about the company reserving the right to use a pilot on a day previously shown as XX will still be there. It'd be nice to be proven wrong though.
It's the concept of you having more than minimum days off in a month and crewing replacing one of them LATER IN THE MONTH with a duty which you discover the next time you log into the portal. As you know, when you log in, you are "forced" to acknowledge the change.
This already happens with, for example, equipment substitution or any day of a reserve roster. The SAME process will be used to grab your day off.
When done this way, it is not a request. Congratulations, you have just given up a day off.
For the chest-beaters above, if you are in the middle of a group of days off, those days will be safe since you do not need to log in. They won't even bother trying. But you cannot protect those XX days if there's a duty between now and when they start later in the month. You're required to check for changes before any duty. This is when they will "get" you. Do you follow this?
Now, as was pointed out on Pg1 of this thread, the FCI in question was withdrawn, but as TCED said, this is because the value of the callout pay was incorrect. Has the FCI has been re-issued yet? There's little doubt it will be and that the sentence about the company reserving the right to use a pilot on a day previously shown as XX will still be there. It'd be nice to be proven wrong though.
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I understand what you're saying IR, however I have yet to 'personally' know of anyone who this has happened to. Besides you are still within your rights to call sked and say 'NO', I think you'll find that if you speak nicely to them they will always help you out - I've never found them to be unhelpful..
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I'll be honest - I just can't get enough of Fleet Facts, FCIs, FCNs, Pelysys notifications and last but not least all that cr@p from Corporate Communications
I'll be honest - I just can't get enough of Fleet Facts, FCIs, FCNs, Pelysys notifications and last but not least all that cr@p from Corporate Communications
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Although you can't forward stuff to your "home" e-mail address any more, anything from Corporate Communications can still be automatically consigned to deleted items. Saves a lot of time when you are reading through your inbox!
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Good tactic however be warned every now and then a corporate comms message contains vital info such as changes to the Group Employment Manual and employee regulation handbook which governs your terms and conditions. So you may miss a subtle or in some cases not so subtle change in your benefits unless you are in the habit of regularly reviewing said manuals.
Good tactic however be warned every now and then a corporate comms message contains vital info such as changes to the Group Employment Manual and employee regulation handbook which governs your terms and conditions. So you may miss a subtle or in some cases not so subtle change in your benefits unless you are in the habit of regularly reviewing said manuals.
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EK bidding sysyem outcome
I don't know about you guys, but the last two months have shown no success at all in my bidding. Nil, nada, njet.
Not that I would call myself a wizard, but I had fairly decent outcome normally. But now all seems completely screwed up.
I'd like to know what your experiences are before complaining directly. At the moment I feel we might as well scrap the crap, rather than gining us the impression of influence. It would be less demotivating.
Not that I would call myself a wizard, but I had fairly decent outcome normally. But now all seems completely screwed up.
I'd like to know what your experiences are before complaining directly. At the moment I feel we might as well scrap the crap, rather than gining us the impression of influence. It would be less demotivating.
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Same here guys, mine is really very bloody annoying. I have a stint where it shows the company does not really give a hoot about fatigue. Perhaps I should have taken unpaid leave.
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I've found great assistance with the guys from the CRS bid assist. Email them with your questions and they will be very helpful. I've found their advise to be very helpful. If only to distinguish bid mistakes from "manual insertions".
They will happily email you the CRS bid results with a short explanation. or even better go the crs helps sessions and talk to them.
But remember, they're line pilots like you and me and do this in their spare time...
They will happily email you the CRS bid results with a short explanation. or even better go the crs helps sessions and talk to them.
But remember, they're line pilots like you and me and do this in their spare time...