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Finlay Mr. Marwan, now you will be questioned and you have to answer truly about everything, and be careful about your answers cause GF and BDB have evidences and proves, hard and soft copies of everything,
Bahrain will stop sending new cadet to Ayla, and this issue will be raised to Oman Air soon too.
Remember Marwan, RESPECT is important, so always respect your customers, otherwise shutdown your business.
I know that you are reading this Marwan, as Mark said earlier that he does not care about pprune and he consider it as trash, but he started posting threads too.
It's really funny and unprofessional, how come some inexperienced and impolite people ended managing a flight school.
Briefly, Ayla is not a good place to train pilots.
Bahrain will stop sending new cadet to Ayla, and this issue will be raised to Oman Air soon too.
Remember Marwan, RESPECT is important, so always respect your customers, otherwise shutdown your business.
I know that you are reading this Marwan, as Mark said earlier that he does not care about pprune and he consider it as trash, but he started posting threads too.
It's really funny and unprofessional, how come some inexperienced and impolite people ended managing a flight school.
Briefly, Ayla is not a good place to train pilots.
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I think it's time to put all this bickering to bed. Any decent aviator will factor in contingencies and plan for the very worst of scenarios. I believe the same can be said for one's career goals/ambitions. There are no guarantees made in this game - It's simply a big balancing act and all you can do is make personal decisions to reduce the risk of outcomes working against your favour.
Nobody knows if Ayla is going to deliver on it's promises, on time, or deliver at all! We all know that their self inflicted "challenges" were not 'Acts of God'.
I don't think it will do anyone any harm to look at your options of continuing flight training elsewhere just in case things go belly up with Ayla. You'll be in a better position with a plan in place to act upon. Employees do it all the time!
FTOs carry no immunities or exemptions - They aren't charities or CSOs. Some sink, others float. Around 26 airlines have gone bust this year alone! Can you imagine how saturated the pilot supply pool is at the moment?
Something to think about.
Nobody knows if Ayla is going to deliver on it's promises, on time, or deliver at all! We all know that their self inflicted "challenges" were not 'Acts of God'.
I don't think it will do anyone any harm to look at your options of continuing flight training elsewhere just in case things go belly up with Ayla. You'll be in a better position with a plan in place to act upon. Employees do it all the time!
FTOs carry no immunities or exemptions - They aren't charities or CSOs. Some sink, others float. Around 26 airlines have gone bust this year alone! Can you imagine how saturated the pilot supply pool is at the moment?
Something to think about.
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Best Pilot, Devil, instead of complaining and droping tears here, you should go and talk to Gulf Air, and the Bank, i think you are matured enough to do this.
I beleive Delta and Charile course have done this, already.
I beleive Delta and Charile course have done this, already.
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Price !!!!!!!
I would like to draw the attention of everyone that ayla now is charging 100 000 $$$ for the 
course
AQABA is
THE AREA TO FLY IS
EVERYTHING IS
courseAQABA is
THE AREA TO FLY IS
EVERYTHING IS
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Unfortunate for us, we are all bound by training agreements with Gulf Air.
I've only got one question. What made GF go ahead and approve Ayla? MPL program? What?? seriously, WHAT?
How I wish I was in Florida now, chilling by the beach and see a color other than grey and buildings that are taller than 3 stories.
The moment of truth is on Sunday, we'll all have to wait and see and manage our future...we should have managed it a long time ago, **** happens BIG TIME.
Good luck to all of you!
I've only got one question. What made GF go ahead and approve Ayla? MPL program? What?? seriously, WHAT?
How I wish I was in Florida now, chilling by the beach and see a color other than grey and buildings that are taller than 3 stories.
The moment of truth is on Sunday, we'll all have to wait and see and manage our future...we should have managed it a long time ago, **** happens BIG TIME.
Good luck to all of you!
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It's not rocket science guys....
I've read with interest these Threads about Ayla Aviation Academy, 3 things have got to happen:
1. The CEO has to go.
2. The CEO has to go.
3. The CEO has to go.
Whether this Company is taken over, or ceases to trade is neither here nor there - the point is it cannot sustain itself as a viable company under its present CEO.Take legal action, as appropriate, to force change - you each have a 'contract' with the Academy; if the Company has a good working model - it will survive.
Not a very good introduction to all those budding aviators who have invested time and money to date - surely there are enough interested parties to trigger a management buyout? The alternative is to shut this place down - for good.
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1. The CEO has to go.
2. The CEO has to go.
3. The CEO has to go.
Whether this Company is taken over, or ceases to trade is neither here nor there - the point is it cannot sustain itself as a viable company under its present CEO.Take legal action, as appropriate, to force change - you each have a 'contract' with the Academy; if the Company has a good working model - it will survive.
Not a very good introduction to all those budding aviators who have invested time and money to date - surely there are enough interested parties to trigger a management buyout? The alternative is to shut this place down - for good.
GF
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Well said .Aero 
Good luck to the rest of you, and like Aero says, THINK. And then act in your best interests. But don't be influenced by false information, wherever it may come from.
Good luck to the rest of you, and like Aero says, THINK. And then act in your best interests. But don't be influenced by false information, wherever it may come from.
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Keep Dreaming,
Nice advice but who said that Ayla cadets are taking leave for months??!
The thing is Ayla are not professional enough to schedule there cadets for flying....
they do have a problems, many students, with no capacity in aircrafts... as easy as that…the blame will not go to Ayla only, even GF, once they have signed or they have approved Ayla with BDB, they should set with the academy (AYLA) and clear things up, example: if the academy fail to graduate the student on time, they must pay a penalty or to outsource another academy and finish the cadets on time and on the academy’s expense.
That would be much better than set with a Jordanian ppl which they are really stupid in solving problems… with all my respect not all of them but he know himself…
Dear Ayla students try to find for your self another academy which they are well known in aviation industry, not same as Ayla...because there will be no use talking to the CEO... as Mr.Aviation said b4 and I do agree with him, Marwan is sleeping..
Nice advice but who said that Ayla cadets are taking leave for months??!
The thing is Ayla are not professional enough to schedule there cadets for flying....
they do have a problems, many students, with no capacity in aircrafts... as easy as that…the blame will not go to Ayla only, even GF, once they have signed or they have approved Ayla with BDB, they should set with the academy (AYLA) and clear things up, example: if the academy fail to graduate the student on time, they must pay a penalty or to outsource another academy and finish the cadets on time and on the academy’s expense.
That would be much better than set with a Jordanian ppl which they are really stupid in solving problems… with all my respect not all of them but he know himself…
Dear Ayla students try to find for your self another academy which they are well known in aviation industry, not same as Ayla...because there will be no use talking to the CEO... as Mr.Aviation said b4 and I do agree with him, Marwan is sleeping..
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I'm not a racist and will never be, but waking up in Aqaba and being treated very badly for no reason by everyone, the academy (the damn bus is never on time) then the flight school, the examiner does what he 'feels like' then going off to the wonderful downtown for the taxis to lie to u and the stores to rob you. This isn't a place to live, kids are on the street 24/7, not many people are educated, and its just sad seeing this. There's only so much a person can take with a smile 
then off to sitting at home because there's nothing else to do.. just a wonderful feeling...
About the meeting today, he tried to blame the 5 month delay on weather and the students ... then went on and did the usual lying to the newcomers.. negative points were all that I absorbed, the ceo got mad and cursed at his students and their parents, then going on to tell them that if they don't like it then to pack up and leave.
Take care and god bless
then off to sitting at home because there's nothing else to do.. just a wonderful feeling... About the meeting today, he tried to blame the 5 month delay on weather and the students ... then went on and did the usual lying to the newcomers.. negative points were all that I absorbed, the ceo got mad and cursed at his students and their parents, then going on to tell them that if they don't like it then to pack up and leave.
Take care and god bless
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"the ceo got mad and cursed at his students and their parents, then going on to tell them that if they don't like it then to pack up and leave"
Perhaps not the best way to treat your paying customers!
Perhaps not the best way to treat your paying customers!
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OMG
All these problems are comming from AYLA CEO's ONLY OMG , is he that nightmare for his students & staff as well.
Nobody can take action , or make an essential change to let all those people sleep and live peacefully .
I am interesting in this thread , becuase I have friend he is willing to study at Ayla, but i think he will never do after reading this.
P.S
there is a rumer says the HOT we come back to work Ayla next month , any idea.
God Bless you all ( Cadets & Staff)
Nobody can take action , or make an essential change to let all those people sleep and live peacefully .
I am interesting in this thread , becuase I have friend he is willing to study at Ayla, but i think he will never do after reading this.
P.S
there is a rumer says the HOT we come back to work Ayla next month , any idea.
God Bless you all ( Cadets & Staff)
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(fight for your right...fu@@@@@
all those jordainian.......... )Keep dreaming ,I have an Advise for you (keep dreaming).
The poor students are leaving a nightmare to abigger one if they are going to be FOs with such snr captain
all those jordainian.......... )Keep dreaming ,I have an Advise for you (keep dreaming).The poor students are leaving a nightmare to abigger one if they are going to be FOs with such snr captain
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Result of Marwan's( AYLA CEO )meeting with Parents, Gulfair and BDB in Bahrain:
18 Cadets made their decision to leave the Academy.
10 Cadets from Course Delta,
5 Cadets from course Echo, 3 already left
3 Cadets from Course Fox,
And unknown number of Flight instructors handed their resignation letter to the management before being fired.
18 Cadets made their decision to leave the Academy.
10 Cadets from Course Delta,
5 Cadets from course Echo, 3 already left
3 Cadets from Course Fox,
And unknown number of Flight instructors handed their resignation letter to the management before being fired.
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The Saturday meeting that took place in Bahrain has come and gone. Has there been any positive news, feedback, or explanations offered to the students by the flight school?
It would eventually come to that if things aren't sorted out. At the end of the day, your a customer to the flight school & nothing else. Gulf Air have very little to do with this relationship. If you've taken a loan out from BDB you are also a customer of BDB. The agreement between Gulf Air and the students isn't worth the poorly photocopied paper it's written on.
The most important document is your training agreement (if one even exists) between you the student (the Customer), and Ayla (the Company). Don't forget, this is a commercial company not a government entity and you are, to some extent, covered by some of Jordan's consumer protection legislation.
There's allot of money at play here. $80,000 per student, and if they've got 100 self sponsored cadets, that equates to $8 million dollars! Where's all that money going?
Take legal action, as appropriate, to force change - you each have a 'contract' with the Academy
The most important document is your training agreement (if one even exists) between you the student (the Customer), and Ayla (the Company). Don't forget, this is a commercial company not a government entity and you are, to some extent, covered by some of Jordan's consumer protection legislation.
There's allot of money at play here. $80,000 per student, and if they've got 100 self sponsored cadets, that equates to $8 million dollars! Where's all that money going?