Gulf Air Developments
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From: UAE
bastard 
bahrainis.
they did not want to listen to the same idea from the 'infidel' andré dosé but are happy to listen to a fellow arab. really shows the mentality here.
bahrainis. they did not want to listen to the same idea from the 'infidel' andré dosé but are happy to listen to a fellow arab. really shows the mentality here.
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From: EARTH
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From: Singapore
Samer majali is half English....... what r u on about Brass...............
i was not talking about majali. i was talking about the smartarses who hire and fire the ceos...the board members...and in extension, the shura group, the parliament members, the government, the bahrainis. a good example is you with your lack of understanding of my accusations.
CUT OUT THE INSULTS EGGW
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From: Bhutan
Brass what hunter was trying to say is he's half British and they listen to him, you misunderstood him and call him names, I think you should stop worrying about Gulfair and try to be happy wherever you are.
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From: Juffair
I can't see most Indian destinations going while there is so much reliance on cheap sub-continent labour in the Gulf region. If anything, keep India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Manila and cancel the rest.
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From: Australia
Nice one, olbie.
If only everyone started to think clearly with their heads and not their emotions (ahem..brassplate
) about the new direction and business plan, Gulf Air will finally manage to sort itself out of the red.
The plan by CEO Majali has obviously been thought out properly, hence the reason for the several months for it's conception. Unfortunately, the solution requires a step back (if you can call it that) in order to take two or three steps forward.
A sacrifice in prestige and pride takes courage, a trait that is lacking in the region. I, for one, love a good fight. All kudos to Majali and GF.
If only everyone started to think clearly with their heads and not their emotions (ahem..brassplate
) about the new direction and business plan, Gulf Air will finally manage to sort itself out of the red.The plan by CEO Majali has obviously been thought out properly, hence the reason for the several months for it's conception. Unfortunately, the solution requires a step back (if you can call it that) in order to take two or three steps forward.
A sacrifice in prestige and pride takes courage, a trait that is lacking in the region. I, for one, love a good fight. All kudos to Majali and GF.
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From: London
Hi,
Just a few questions, and comments as i'm not a specialist but interested in aviation.
1. Whats the purpose of buying something smaller than the A320? Aren't these good enough and suit gf's regional network?
2. @ olbie: dropping CDG, and FRA? Aren't these routes profitable at the moment? And I understood from your comment that Zurich and Milan could be new destinations? If i'm not mistaken gf used to go to both destinations (its either Geneva or Zurich, not sure) during the 90's, but were cancelled due to low traffic (if i'm not mistaken again). Adding destinations in the former Soviet Republics, does the traffic justify that? Sorry lots of questions
. I think that gf should first focus on its current network as there are lots of potential if things were planned properly.
3. Gf should seriously consider improving its products in order to be competitive. So we should wait and see what will be offered by James Park, does anyone know when are the new livery and cabin interiors going to be unveiled?
4. Concerning the workforce issue, besides laying off excess staff, the management should even consider overhauling the retirement benefit scheme, as i said before, especially for grade 10 and 11 staff, especially that after the recent changes things got worse for former grade 10 and 11 employees. Benefits should be distributed in a more justifiable manner.
Just a few questions, and comments as i'm not a specialist but interested in aviation.
1. Whats the purpose of buying something smaller than the A320? Aren't these good enough and suit gf's regional network?
2. @ olbie: dropping CDG, and FRA? Aren't these routes profitable at the moment? And I understood from your comment that Zurich and Milan could be new destinations? If i'm not mistaken gf used to go to both destinations (its either Geneva or Zurich, not sure) during the 90's, but were cancelled due to low traffic (if i'm not mistaken again). Adding destinations in the former Soviet Republics, does the traffic justify that? Sorry lots of questions
. I think that gf should first focus on its current network as there are lots of potential if things were planned properly.3. Gf should seriously consider improving its products in order to be competitive. So we should wait and see what will be offered by James Park, does anyone know when are the new livery and cabin interiors going to be unveiled?
4. Concerning the workforce issue, besides laying off excess staff, the management should even consider overhauling the retirement benefit scheme, as i said before, especially for grade 10 and 11 staff, especially that after the recent changes things got worse for former grade 10 and 11 employees. Benefits should be distributed in a more justifiable manner.
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From: Bahamas
Today's GDN
"We do not have the numbers yet, but those employees who have their heart and soul with the company and wish to be part of its turnaround, will remain and grow with us," he said.
Wait a second. GF doesn't pay me for my 'heart and soul'. I'm here for ONE reason and ONE reason alone, financial reward!! I do have a passion for my job that has nothing to do with GF and more to do with my professionalism. But now they want my 'heart and soul' as well?
Is my job at risk if they can't have it (heart and soul)?
"We do not have the numbers yet, but those employees who have their heart and soul with the company and wish to be part of its turnaround, will remain and grow with us," he said.
Wait a second. GF doesn't pay me for my 'heart and soul'. I'm here for ONE reason and ONE reason alone, financial reward!! I do have a passion for my job that has nothing to do with GF and more to do with my professionalism. But now they want my 'heart and soul' as well?
Is my job at risk if they can't have it (heart and soul)?
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From: Far away from Idiots
Wow Brass, you really do have a grudge against GF and Bahrainis. That leads me to one conclusion and that is either you were kicked out of GF or shafted by Bahrainis. Its one of the two, cause a professional would not behave or express himself so profoundly with hatred and despise.
Your attitude is obsolete in today's standards of speech...
As Hunter correctly said... SAD .....
Your attitude is obsolete in today's standards of speech...
As Hunter correctly said... SAD .....
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From: YYZ/BAH
-Final network 55 destinations, around 15 routes to be cut, around 20 to be added
-"Few" European destinations, Zurich and Milan mentionned as financial centers
-"1 or 2" in the far east
-"Few" European destinations, Zurich and Milan mentionned as financial centers
-"1 or 2" in the far east
New destinations to be added in Middle East, Iraq, Iran, former Soviet Republics, East Africa. Goal is to fly a minimum of twice a day to all destinations.
I expect CDG, FRA, ATH, LCA + most of India destinations to be cut.
Fleet:
-Around 20 320s
-Around 10 RJs
-Fleet size 35 that leaves 5 330s or less
-Around 20 320s
-Around 10 RJs
-Fleet size 35 that leaves 5 330s or less
Aircraft configuration: "good" economy and "super-business."
Finally, anybody who thinks PVG is making money or close to break-even is severely misinformed.
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From: bahrain
Hi,
Just a few questions, and comments as i'm not a specialist but interested in aviation.
1. Whats the purpose of buying something smaller than the A320? Aren't these good enough and suit gf's regional network?
2. @ olbie: dropping CDG, and FRA? Aren't these routes profitable at the moment? And I understood from your comment that Zurich and Milan could be new destinations? If i'm not mistaken gf used to go to both destinations (its either Geneva or Zurich, not sure) during the 90's, but were cancelled due to low traffic (if i'm not mistaken again). Adding destinations in the former Soviet Republics, does the traffic justify that? Sorry lots of questions
. I think that gf should first focus on its current network as there are lots of potential if things were planned properly.
3. Gf should seriously consider improving its products in order to be competitive. So we should wait and see what will be offered by James Park, does anyone know when are the new livery and cabin interiors going to be unveiled?
4. Concerning the workforce issue, besides laying off excess staff, the management should even consider overhauling the retirement benefit scheme, as i said before, especially for grade 10 and 11 staff, especially that after the recent changes things got worse for former grade 10 and 11 employees. Benefits should be distributed in a more justifiable manner.
Just a few questions, and comments as i'm not a specialist but interested in aviation.
1. Whats the purpose of buying something smaller than the A320? Aren't these good enough and suit gf's regional network?
2. @ olbie: dropping CDG, and FRA? Aren't these routes profitable at the moment? And I understood from your comment that Zurich and Milan could be new destinations? If i'm not mistaken gf used to go to both destinations (its either Geneva or Zurich, not sure) during the 90's, but were cancelled due to low traffic (if i'm not mistaken again). Adding destinations in the former Soviet Republics, does the traffic justify that? Sorry lots of questions
. I think that gf should first focus on its current network as there are lots of potential if things were planned properly.3. Gf should seriously consider improving its products in order to be competitive. So we should wait and see what will be offered by James Park, does anyone know when are the new livery and cabin interiors going to be unveiled?
4. Concerning the workforce issue, besides laying off excess staff, the management should even consider overhauling the retirement benefit scheme, as i said before, especially for grade 10 and 11 staff, especially that after the recent changes things got worse for former grade 10 and 11 employees. Benefits should be distributed in a more justifiable manner.
and what would be the difference between GF and bahrain air as both of them will have narrow body aircraft and 2 class configuration..
the "regional jets"wont make much profit for GF as the airplane wont be able to carry much cargo. the airline makes alot of money from their cargo services.
hopefully GF wont downsize their 330s to 5 . that would be a kick in the teeth.
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From: Far away from Idiots
I hope GF doesnt downsize it's WB fleet except their jurassic state 340s.
many a time i have seen F/C empty but J/C packed along with E/C.
That is surely a loss in revenue. Many destinations were closed down which had a high yield and everyone wondered why. Hopefully they will add some profit making destinations. I wish Gulf Air all the best from all my heart cause it really is a great company.
many a time i have seen F/C empty but J/C packed along with E/C.
That is surely a loss in revenue. Many destinations were closed down which had a high yield and everyone wondered why. Hopefully they will add some profit making destinations. I wish Gulf Air all the best from all my heart cause it really is a great company.
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From: front row
Profitability from new routes?
Making money on new routes will be difficult as return on investment on new routes would take years to make.
More investment for RJ? More money to be wasted.
New aircraft, new training, new simulator, and the list goes on. Wet-lease? FRAUD FRAUD FRAUD FRAUD FRAUD!
Selling A340s?
They are not Toyota Corolla and would take year(s) to get rid of them. Unless you sell them at a very deep discount, or with the condition that they are in, sell them like scrap metal.
Making money on new routes will be difficult as return on investment on new routes would take years to make.
More investment for RJ? More money to be wasted.
New aircraft, new training, new simulator, and the list goes on. Wet-lease? FRAUD FRAUD FRAUD FRAUD FRAUD!
Selling A340s?
They are not Toyota Corolla and would take year(s) to get rid of them. Unless you sell them at a very deep discount, or with the condition that they are in, sell them like scrap metal.
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From: Somewhere nice and warm
Selling A340s?
They are not Toyota Corolla and would take year(s) to get rid of them. Unless you sell them at a very deep discount, or with the condition that they are in, sell them like scrap metal.
They are not Toyota Corolla and would take year(s) to get rid of them. Unless you sell them at a very deep discount, or with the condition that they are in, sell them like scrap metal.
As far as the Far East is concerned, it can only be referring to SIN and HKG.
BKK would be on the chop list in my opinion but only if they get those A319LR first in order to put them on FRA and CDG (which would take 2 years at least)?