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flame: many have tried constructive thoughts and nothing ever changes at GF. Even as we complain the same old same happening everyday at GF. I get GF gave us all jobs but what u are saying is so wrong. If someone criticized Gf they are NOT insulting u. I just don't get how everything is so personal. to me it kinda straight forward.
GF hired us all
GF pays up
GF screws our rosters with no hope of improvement due to lack of professionalism at all levels
GF hopes to improve
Gf fails miserably
Gf makes excuses and fires someone ie CEO
GF makes new plan
GF still messed up and blames some more people not involved
GF repeats all and still hires EXPATS 60 years later
Enjoy the chaos guys or just have a beer it is way easier to accept reality!
GF hired us all
GF pays up
GF screws our rosters with no hope of improvement due to lack of professionalism at all levels
GF hopes to improve
Gf fails miserably
Gf makes excuses and fires someone ie CEO
GF makes new plan
GF still messed up and blames some more people not involved
GF repeats all and still hires EXPATS 60 years later
Enjoy the chaos guys or just have a beer it is way easier to accept reality!
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Swalha Al Abeid is the writer of that article.
remember that name, everyone.
now...that's a local i would be honoured to work with. gf needs many more like him, not that imbecile ranting raving lunatic that flame_bringer is who is the very reason i left fantasy island in the first place.
remember that name, everyone.
now...that's a local i would be honoured to work with. gf needs many more like him, not that imbecile ranting raving lunatic that flame_bringer is who is the very reason i left fantasy island in the first place.
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....worthless jobless person to a licensed certifying engineer...
1. you're not even a pilot. i am here because i AM a pilot.
2. you must be one of those useless engineers gf has, judging by the state of their airplanes, and therefore definitely contributing to the downward spiral of gfs reputation.
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hey guys, take it down a notch huh?? back to the GF topic, they were good to me and vice-versa, it's sad to see it being systematically dismantled, maybe there is some rebuild plan, but they fail to realize a company is successful or not by it's employees, and it appears nationality, not productivity or competence is the deciding factor on who stays or goes.
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Fartplate I usually piss on the likes of you before pissing off.
You're not gf staff therefore this place is not yours.
Go preach somewhere else no one needs your advice or suggestions
You're not gf staff therefore this place is not yours.
Go preach somewhere else no one needs your advice or suggestions
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This is a free forum where we all have the opportunity to express or thaughts, ideas, for some their emotions.
It is a shame to see what is happening, but let's be honest GF is not the only one worldwide (while it is probably the only one in the Gulf region) to be in this situation
To both BP (you have some valid points as it seems you where part of GF in it's best years) and FB (you have yours but if you are really 24 they might be biased, and you might need to review some of GF past history), chill out. Keep going on with such language will not help.
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Solution
Shut down GulfAIr, start all over with smart people at the top, (a mix of the best Locals and expats )
Also, The succes of a company is directly proportional to the level of happiness, integrity, honesty and skills of its employees. Thats the golden rule of any business on this planet.
outside the subject...
I was laughing and thinking that flame must be a girl, why? he or she 's always gotta have the last words ....
Also, The succes of a company is directly proportional to the level of happiness, integrity, honesty and skills of its employees. Thats the golden rule of any business on this planet.
outside the subject...
I was laughing and thinking that flame must be a girl, why? he or she 's always gotta have the last words ....
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These pages are FULL of solutions. The most identified problem is corruption from the top down. I am afraid that there will never be a solution to that and it has absolutely nothing to do with 'locals V expats' !
Apache is correct. Shut it down & restart with the best & punish any hint of corruption with serious jail terms. Also, practice what has preached;CRM. Resource the best ideas but, again, very hard to get Management to listen to pilots.
Apache is correct. Shut it down & restart with the best & punish any hint of corruption with serious jail terms. Also, practice what has preached;CRM. Resource the best ideas but, again, very hard to get Management to listen to pilots.
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Gulf Daily News » Local News » Top airline denies poaching claims
"poaching"?? People who are losing their jobs?
"poaching"?? People who are losing their jobs?
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Wow, What a joke.
Are they serious????
How can they even consider that term " Poaching"
People need to live and cant hang around till you give them the boot. This just proves how disgustingly low GF has become and the worst is yet to come.
I salute people who made the initiative in moving as loyalty plays no game anymore in this disgruntled company
. Its where the bread is, its the motto now.
What truly gets to me is that the management still have the guts and courage to blame others for their own shortfall and lack of future vision.
Wake up folks. The days of Gf has gone and soon you'll follow.
Are they serious????How can they even consider that term " Poaching"
People need to live and cant hang around till you give them the boot. This just proves how disgustingly low GF has become and the worst is yet to come.
I salute people who made the initiative in moving as loyalty plays no game anymore in this disgruntled company
. Its where the bread is, its the motto now.What truly gets to me is that the management still have the guts and courage to blame others for their own shortfall and lack of future vision.
Wake up folks. The days of Gf has gone and soon you'll follow.
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Toga, there should be no loyalty in commercial aviation at all. I know that we all pretend to be loyal and at interview pretend to have wanted to join ABC airlines since we were at school, because, that is what the daft management twerps want to hear. The clown of a CP in a crap cowboy charter outfit in the UK, when interviewing casualties of the demise of a top competitor, actually asked candidates " Just how long do you intend staying with us ?". As if one would reply;"Well, for as long as it takes for me to get another job with a classy outfit !". Yeah, right !
I think EK, EY & QR should set up in the Gulf Hotel & initially, interview everyone who is unemployed as a result of the GF cutbacks. Then, interview everyone who wants to escape the same, potential fate.
I am sad to say, again, that GF appears, to me, to be doing the right thing. What many have, regrettably, advocated for a long time. Reduce costs, reduce fleet size, chop unprofitable & risky routes. They appear to be doing all of that. The inevitable fall out is job loss. Great HR care should be taken in setting up another dept charged with the task of securing jobs or opportunities for those displaced by the new strategy.
Give me a bit of funding, an office, a pretty secretary (preferably female) with full communication facility & I will come out & do it for you. And no, I won't shave off 20% of the funding for my back-pocket, clock in & then clock out after dates & coffee with my Sec,claim wild expenses as I trip around the Gulf, First Class, top hotels, meeting for dates & coffee with heads of EK, EY & QR, spinning out the meetings looking like we are all doing some work ! ................Promise.............!
Good luck to all. You WILL succeed in re-establishing yourselves as professional COMMERCIAL pilots as opportnuties seem to abound, right on your doorstep.
Oh, sorry, last poster, what is EOS ? Thanks.
I think EK, EY & QR should set up in the Gulf Hotel & initially, interview everyone who is unemployed as a result of the GF cutbacks. Then, interview everyone who wants to escape the same, potential fate.
I am sad to say, again, that GF appears, to me, to be doing the right thing. What many have, regrettably, advocated for a long time. Reduce costs, reduce fleet size, chop unprofitable & risky routes. They appear to be doing all of that. The inevitable fall out is job loss. Great HR care should be taken in setting up another dept charged with the task of securing jobs or opportunities for those displaced by the new strategy.
Give me a bit of funding, an office, a pretty secretary (preferably female) with full communication facility & I will come out & do it for you. And no, I won't shave off 20% of the funding for my back-pocket, clock in & then clock out after dates & coffee with my Sec,claim wild expenses as I trip around the Gulf, First Class, top hotels, meeting for dates & coffee with heads of EK, EY & QR, spinning out the meetings looking like we are all doing some work ! ................Promise.............!
Good luck to all. You WILL succeed in re-establishing yourselves as professional COMMERCIAL pilots as opportnuties seem to abound, right on your doorstep.
Oh, sorry, last poster, what is EOS ? Thanks.