Gulf Air Developments

[buba]

Heard iran may not grant GF approval to operate into its airports aswel

[John21UK]

See my post 4522 above. Still no green light regarding Iran flights.

[mamamia]

pilots meeting

What happened in that meeting

[John21UK]

Iran flights postponed till 01 Oct. Waiting for Iranian CAA approval;
Bahrain's Gulf Air delays Iran flights relaunch - Transport - ArabianBusiness.com

Don't think this is the end of it just yet...

[Che Guevara]

Indeed, I don't thing the fat lady is ready to sing just yet, perhaps she's off counting chickens?

[IFE]

The latest Notice to Crews

Dinosaurs are jealous that 320s have taken over EU, therefore there will be no 330 nightstop for 320/330 CCQ pilots.

[Mephistopheles]

IFE, it's not jealousy it's about being fair. Or do you think it's fair for juniors to night stop in CDG, FRA, FCO, CPH, COK, MAA, KTM, DAC whilst the pilots senior to you only have 3 night stops-LHR,BKK & MNL? I suppose you think you deserve those as well?

[John21UK]

This is not an issue regarding 'fairness'. The bottom line is that the right aircraft needs to go to the right place. The Gulf Air operation has changed and over time it will evolve again. It's up to commercial to get bums on seats that pay enough for you and me to have a job. Who cares who nightstops where!?

[SCATANA]

Was AAs idea.

Indeed it had little to do with "fairness" and more to do with the "dinosaurs" not being fully utilised to the limit.

[ironbutt57]

whilst the pilots senior to you only have 3 night stops-LHR,BKK & MNL?

They reap what they sow....

[Xaror]

Mephistopheles

IFE, it's not jealousy it's about being fair. Or do you think it's fair for juniors to night stop in CDG, FRA, FCO, CPH, COK, MAA, KTM, DAC whilst the pilots senior to you only have 3 night stops-LHR,BKK & MNL? I suppose you think you deserve those as well?

I disagree with you on that!
A330/340 share KTM and DAC nightstops along with A320 folks!
COK and MAA <---- do you realy consider those nightstops? Seriously?

CDG FRA FCO CPH thats 10+10+4+4 = 28 weekly
LHR BBK MNL thats 14+6+9 = 29 weekly

Number of flight deck operating A320 is more than twice as A330/340.

And I bet A320/330 CCQ are no more than 20 Cpts! I believe If only 1 of those 3 blocks gets rostered for a CCQ pilot, all A330/340 guys will still have plenty of nightstops left!!

[Mephistopheles]

For info 330/340 guys are regularly doing over 80hrs & it's not 48hr night stops. We seem to do doing all the Pakistan night trips, double RUH, double DXB & most in fact are being "utilised to the limit" otherwise how else would we be sitting on 900hrs?
"They reap what they sow...." lost me there?

[John21UK]

New DFO appointed. Good news/bad news?

[mamamia]

life goes on

[IFE]

Mephistopheles

Quote: For info 330/340 guys are regularly doing over 80hrs & it's not 48hr night stops. We seem to do doing all the Pakistan night trips, double RUH, double DXB & most in fact are being "utilised to the limit" otherwise how else would we be sitting on 900hrs?
"They reap what they sow...." lost me there?

80 hrs on big bus is easy. Throw in 2 MNL, 1 BKK, 2 LHR, couples of doubles GCC and your line is set. I don't mind and I'm sure CCQ guys don't mind doing 24 hr night stops at these places instead of 1-2 330 flights per month.
You should try doing 80 hrs on small bus, and you would see what is "fair".
The point is, if dinosaurs want to do nice EU night stops, why don't they do 330/320 CCQ. That would be "fair" don't you think, Meph?

[bus_aviator]

this place is starting to really suck....what kind of an airline has this become...gents the big boys upstairs have won when it gets to the point that certain pilots are kept happy while other ones are just working the plantation...and then start to fight each other...that old term divide and conquer. ironbutt amen to that brother there were days that 320 guys were looking at nice layovers with a gleam in their eyes we didn't go upstairs asking for 330 guys to do less layovers...wtf....really is that what we've become if my goat dies i want yours to die as well...i'm outta here before the winter gets really cold and us wolves start eating each other

[KK Singh]

Expansion

Keep it on, happy landings.

[Mephistopheles]

IFE,"Been there, done that, got the T-shirt" for many years I have done the multi sector(6 sectors were the norm) jumping around up & down the Gulf so I, like many others, feel like it is now some one else's turn to "enjoy" that type of flying. For info CCQ A330 to A320 has been on hold for over 18 months.
This would be a non topic if the company had a completely open & fair rostering system but that is not the case & each of us must fight for what's right for them. A fully automated sytem(with no outside interference-i.e. A.A.) would be perfect but we know that any budget that was there has been blown on the wonderfully & fully functional EFB!

Xaror, you conviently forgot that CMB nightstop(I think that's around 4-5 a week) & KTM/DAC nightstops are crewed 95% by CCQ. 330/340 do the turn arounds.

Number of flight deck operating A320 is more than twice as A330/340.

There are around 55*330/340 Capt's & 120*320. Check the seniority list yourself if you don't believe me.

[Chuck Y]

Ooooooooooooooooooo! Looks like some are getting their little frilly panties all in a bunch cos they haven't been getting their monthly dose of ladyboy love!

[Che Guevara]

Happy Landings! Where have I heard that before....

[QUOTE][This would be a non topic if the company had a completely open & fair rostering system but that is not the case & each of us must fight for what's right for them. A fully automated sytem(with no outside interference-i.e. A.A.) would be perfect but we know that any budget that was there has been blown on the wonderfully & fully functional EFB!/QUOTE]

Totally agree, but this is not for us and quite frankly, never will be, as long as corruption is a way of life for some....end of story.


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