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Old 21st Jun 2012, 21:50
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AMS is delighted to announce that it has been retained as sole remarketing agent by Gulf Air for the remarketing of four (4) Airbus A330-200 aircraft.*

The aircraft, serial numbers 276, 281, 286 and 287 were all manufactured in 1999 and are Rolls-Royce Trent powered.* The aircraft are available for sale or lease, and are available from now through July, with the last aircraft being released by Gulf Air in December this year.

KA,KB,KC,KD are the aircraft in question
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Old 23rd Jun 2012, 11:24
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Any news from guys that attended it?
You guys gone already?
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Old 23rd Jun 2012, 18:20
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Old 24th Jun 2012, 12:43
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Saw Antoine in his chair today
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Old 24th Jun 2012, 17:24
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Well....if you don't know for sure...then you shouldn't bag someone by name here....it could be you someday...not taking sides either way...just being realistic.....dont let it become like another airline here where a bunch of whining euro-brats spoiled it for everybody....
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Old 25th Jun 2012, 18:37
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Gulf Air to manage fleet to cut costs by in-sourcing maintenance of entire fleet.

Bahrain's Gulf Air to manage fleet to cut costs - Transport - ArabianBusiness.com
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Old 28th Jun 2012, 08:28
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thanks Olbie. Can't quite see what this has to do with GF Developments..............or, am I missing something here ?
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Old 28th Jun 2012, 14:48
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.....dont let it become like another airline here where a bunch of whining euro-brats spoiled it for everybody....
You mean at "Teahid"? Oh shoot, am I even allowed to say the word "Teahid?" Sorry, I didn't mean "Teahid." I mean "United" in Arabic. Oh, am I allowed to say that word or do I need to lock my doors tonight and sleep with the slingshot under my pillow?

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Old 28th Jun 2012, 18:12
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Careful PJ, the "Big Beer Belly Boyz" gonna give you a good thumping
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Old 29th Jun 2012, 21:08
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touk, thanks. Still don't get it but I am slowing up now. Swansong is LGW-TFS-LHR, taxi back to LGW, Arrive early morning and I do not think CEO will be giving me a kiss on both cheeks ! Will still visit GF developments because many, dear mates, are still hangin in there. Always wanted to be a FAA ATR outa Sandiego with Western. FAILED !BORT, as we say in Mancunia.......................It's been a laff. Orite la ?
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Old 30th Jun 2012, 21:54
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What's the word on the 2 A321's parked in Toulouse?
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Old 1st Jul 2012, 00:12
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'CC' is scheduled to arrive here on the 3rd IIRC. Don't know about 'CD'.

Typo or genuine? Gulf Air Glasgow Service Displayed in July 2012 Gulf Life | Airline Route

If you want to go to Scotland don't go for GLA but go for EDI. Thats where the money is and they don't have a direct ME service unlike GLA with their double daily EK flights. GLA is holiday/charter traffic. EDI is rumored to get a direct service from AUH.

The map shows more 'errors' as it show we fly to several places in Iran, Iraq, but no Gassim, Taiff, Yanbu and Yuba that have been announced 6 months ago buy are still not served. I wonder who authorised this map?

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Old 2nd Jul 2012, 17:24
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Incident: Gulf A320 at Chennai on Jul 1st 2012, medical emergency

Passenger gets stung by a scorpion onboard a Gulf Air 320.
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Old 3rd Jul 2012, 14:33
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The article further down below the ''Employer Notes'', is from Arabianbusiness.com. Notice the ''... is planning to increase its fleet of aircraft and expand its route network....'' statement. How does that tie with the


'' Employer Notes

Gulf Air is looking at shrinking it's fleet from 35 to 20 while reducing the frequencies to most of it's major hubs. Recently cancelled 4 routes.''

from PilotCareerCentre.com ???




Gulf Air to miss 2012 breakeven target, CEO says



ByShane McGinley
  • Wednesday, 6 July 2011 8:04 AM

a.smartlink,a.smartlink:link,a.smartlink:visited{color: #cc0000;text-decoration: underline;border-bottom: 1px solid #cc0000;}a.smartlink:active,a.smartlink:hover{color:#cc0000; border-bottom: 2px solid #cc0000;}#jHelperTipContainer{background:#ffffff;padding:5px ;color:#cc0000;font:9px verdana;}Gulf Air, the national carrier of Bahrain, will not make its target to break-even by 2012 and has not ruled out further staff redundancies, the airline’s CEO said.
“We basically set a deadline of 2012 to create a dynamic, commercially sustainable business… However, due to recent events, leading to the loss of passengers in and out of Bahrain, meeting the financial targets will be a challenge,” Samer Majali, CEO of Gulf Air, told Aviation Business magazine, as the carrier struggles to recover from the impact of the political unrest which has engulfed the country.
“There will probably be a slight delay... We will probably allow for a three-to-six month delay in completing the [financial] strategy – nothing too major. I assume the breakeven will hopefully be achieved in early 2013 or the middle of 2013,” he added.
As a result of the impact of the global financial crisis, which led to a downturn in the aviation sector, the carrier suffered financially and was in the process of a three-year restructuring plan, which was on course to see the it breakeven by the end of next year.
However, the outbreak of political unrest in the Gulf state saw nearly 30 protestors killed and martial law declared in March. The carrier was forced to suspend flights to Iran, Iraq and Lebanon and issue refunds when the Bahrain Formula One Grand Prix was also postponed. As a result, passenger bookings in the first five months of 2011 dropped by around 25 percent.
As a result of the cost cutting initiatives, staff redundancies were also unavoidable. “Around 1500 staff were dropped in the space of 18-20 months,” Majali is quoted as saying. He also did not rule out further possible staff cuts: “The manpower situation will continue to be watched closely to fine-tune our resource allocation. Of course, our priority will always be retaining the best and most productive talent, safeguarding the jobs of employees that work hard to ensure our long-term success. Looking ahead, there will not be major redundancies as before.”
Despite its financial troubles, Majali was confident he can turnaround the airlines fortunes and is planning to increase its fleet of aircraft and expand its route network.
“As part of a pilot project, we have leased two Embraer 170 Advanced Range (AR) jets, which are configured in dual-class layout. This has proved such a success that we are planning to introduce around 10 regional jets into our fleet, which could be Embraer, Airbus or Bombardier,” Majali said, with an order expected to be confirmed at the Bahrain Air Show in January next year.
In terms of its route network, Majali said Gulf Air was aiming “to serve the kingdom with higher frequency, non-stop services to more destinations within a three-hour radius. “Ultimately we want to serve every capital and major city in the Middle East with at least a double daily service,” he added.
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Old 3rd Jul 2012, 15:23
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The article below is almost 1 year old. But nothing has changed since then in terms of breaking even. Having said that, some good developments recently are hopefully having a positive impact.
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Old 3rd Jul 2012, 16:31
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'Good developments'? Like what? I would like to know because at this time I am thinking of updating my CV!
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Old 3rd Jul 2012, 18:54
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I know, I know, it's certainly not all rozes but what I'm trying to do is just give this thread some positive vibes back. I was refering to 320 ops to CDG/FRA, more frequencies here and there, new 320 series aircraft coming in, old 330's leaving. Someone did some maths somewhere that it's cost effective to tanker round trip everywhere I go as of late. Also the insourceing of its Fleet Technical Management. The rumored A340 wet lease iso wasting BD700.000 per annum with them just sitting idle. At least we see something happening.

What I don't understand is why GF does not go for the domestic Saudi market now that has been opened up. Just read today that Qatar is looking to start a sister company in Saudi pending some changes being made by those in power. This would have been an ideal move by GF as Bahrain and Saudi are best buddies. You've gotto be bold and spend money to make money. Look at Bahrain Air flying out of Dammam...

Anyway, I'll propably get flamed for saying this...
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Old 3rd Jul 2012, 19:33
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It IS nice to hear that some things are happening but what about the fleet reduction from 35 to 20?

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Old 4th Jul 2012, 08:52
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John, on PPRuNe, you get flamed for saying anything ! Your optimism,well meant suggestions, loyalty etc are pleasing in the current, dreadful, environment but sadly, perhaps, a little naive. I would still prefer blokes like you on my team.

CEO paraphrased quite well & knows the way forward providing "Parliament" let him do what is required. One has to recognise that GF has fallen too far behind it's local & global competitors to ever recover former glory. The big boys on your doorstep are already there. GF has to accept that it is just a Regional Carrier, a feeder to it's "brothers" & get on with it. Downsizeing, redundancies & other cost reducing measures are a painfull dose of reality medicine.

Recognising corruption is one thing. Doing something (like Andrew Dose did) is another. Too many fat cat's have vested interests & I doubt that this can ever be cured. Hey, it is not just a GF thing, look at Barclays in the UK for heavens sake ! Powerful measures, properly backed must be taken to stop the open theft that has crippled GF for ages.

The mindset of management has also to be cured. Far too many jobs for the boys rather than employment for the most capable has left GF in a laughable state for many years. I too, once pointed out to my Fleet Manager that there was a way of reducing fuel costs considerably. I was given a wry smile & told by the Fleet Assistant that I "cared too much" !
I was actually told to "care, less" and" just do the job; We will manage, you fly the planes " !!!

I & many others have said it before; Management hands are tied by inept seniors probably to protect sticky fingers in the till but also because of the crazy "Loss Of Face" syndrom which is a particular Middle East syndrom.

I sadly foresee the complete demise of this once mighty giant in the sky. For the chaps seeking to revise CV's..................you have left it too late.
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Old 4th Jul 2012, 20:41
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For the chaps seeking to revise CV's..................you have left it too late.
Judging from the incessant beat of drums and the constant 'twitter' of the bush- telegraph, I would say that we are about to witness the biggest exodus ever recorded in the history of this once mighty giant, the latter being your words of course.
So no, it's not too late, but rather timely I'd say.


John UK, I have always enjoyed your optimism in this bleak and foreign land, and wish you well, for road ahead looks challenging, to say the least. Fear thee well.

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