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Old 22nd Jan 2012, 02:23
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What would you expect from a company whose management is so incompetent and so inexperienced. all they care about is their own welfare and as far as staff are concerned they have to be overworked under great duress and sacked if needs be. Keep your wallets getting fatter whilst this " Golden " airline is sinking for good. Time to seek other pastures..
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Old 22nd Jan 2012, 04:07
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the guys who work hard are the pilots cabin crew and engineers while the rest living their dream life ,you could always ride a car but cannot fix it thats our managment their walking the tunnel but know the golden tunnel will be flooded with so much money where there going to sink in it like the titanic
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Old 22nd Jan 2012, 10:31
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But who keeps flooding the tunnel with money and why ? Why is the corruption so obvious ? Who lets them get away with it & why ? Stop all that, at source and you are on the way to recovery. Failure to do so, fanning the flames of corruption, employing inept people because of who they know has led to this ugly downfall of the once, widely admired, National Airline. Bring back strong Management, untie their hands, expose the corruptors and maybe, just maybe, you have a chance. Heartfelt concern to all of you who must be greatly unsettled by all of the dreadful developments.
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Old 22nd Jan 2012, 14:13
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This airline is sick at all levels.
The impunity reigns, lack of discipline and commitment notorious. Apart of a small number of real committed professionals and those who are still not corrupted by the system, all the others should be sacked, maybe half of the entire staff.
But, hey, Gulf Air is a job provider not a serious business like other major airlines around the gulf!
I know this much, and I'm having enough…
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Old 23rd Jan 2012, 02:30
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A new-look Gulf Air discussed

GDN Today:
MANAMA: The Cabinet discussed the current status of Gulf Air and viewed a number of strategic options for the future of the company, presented by Deputy Prime Minister and Bahrain Mumtalakat Holding Company chairman Shaikh Khalid bin Abdulla Al Khalifa. As the government is keen to see the continuity of Gulf Air, the Cabinet decided to restructure the airline, in line with operational requirements and reduce the effective size of its challenges, commitments and costs while maintaining the national workforce.

A Gulf Air spokesman said last night: "Gulf Air's business has faced challenges in recent times in common with other carriers around the world. Combinations of unprecendented regional and economic factors have made business increasingly difficult, in particular the regional political situation, the high price of fuel, low passenger numbers and the suspension of a number of destinations.

"In light of this and further to a statement today by the Cabinet, Gulf Air can confirm that the senior management team, with the support of the government and its shareholder, Mumtalakat, is initiating additional measures aimed at securing Gulf Air's long-term sustainability, as well as actively addressing the airline's loss-making position."
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Old 23rd Jan 2012, 07:35
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Gulf Air Nairobi Operation Changes in S12 | Airline Route

Update;
Correction to Gulf Air Feb/Mar 2012 Athens Operation Changes | Airline Route

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Old 23rd Jan 2012, 21:39
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Was recently on a flight from BAH-BEY on an A330 and cabin crew got into lots of convo with as I was the only J pax...one of the very friendly Bahraini male crew told me that GF had given all its 787 slots/orders to Emirates! Is this true?
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Old 24th Jan 2012, 04:09
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Not true. Don't see that happening as the remaining B787's will arrive as they are a direct order between the King and former US President Mr.Bush.

The B787 replaces the A330's and maybe some A350's to bring back A340 capacity a few years after they retired and business is up, inshallah.

Following on from yesterdays news:
Gulf Daily News » Local News » Joint panel to draw up plans for airline's future

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Old 24th Jan 2012, 04:56
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It follows the cabinet's decision on Sunday to restructure the airline in line with operational requirements and reduce the effective size of its challenges, commitments and costs while maintaining the national workforce.
fřreigners raus?
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Old 24th Jan 2012, 06:20
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So after all these years of operation they still haven't been able to identify that GF's main problem is the 'deadweight' workforce at the pink palace, that sits around doing nothing while receiving their 'government' benefits, at the expense of GF and of course the magically disappearing money left right and center.
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Old 24th Jan 2012, 09:20
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the newspapers say that they're going to restructure the company, basically downsizing it, dropping 15 routes that are just costing money, and chopping some foreigners. Apparently no nationals will be laid off.
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Old 24th Jan 2012, 12:56
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Very worrying for the "foreigners", many of whom contributed greatly to the former success of this, now, rotten outfit.
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Old 24th Jan 2012, 17:11
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Very worrying for the "foreigners", many of whom contributed greatly to the former success of this, now, rotten outfit.
... and the cycle starts all over again!

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Old 24th Jan 2012, 17:33
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So now we'll see +RA of expat resignations and will feed the region with trained and experienced riders and cabin crew. Nice! Reminds me of Dose's times. Just wondering we have 4 or 5 years cycle here


P.S. Have you noticed - no 340 routes for FEB
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Old 24th Jan 2012, 19:48
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Qatar and etihad

May be some of the guys with contacts in Qatar and etihad could get the respective companies to do a recruitment day in Bahrain and save us all the trouble
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Old 25th Jan 2012, 03:50
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I agree Landflap, it isn't "optimal", but at the end of the day, we expats are migrant farm workers, so maybe time to find a new orchard...its been a good run, and Im sure the measures taken will make GF a more reasonable option for Bahrain in the long run...but it's become unsustainable, so something has to be re-thought...
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Old 25th Jan 2012, 07:25
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Passed along to me by someone who reads the Daily Tribune:

Four proposals on new strategies for Gulf Air’s future were yesterday presented to a committee that was formed especially to discuss the airline's fate, DT has learnt.

The proposals are:
1) Close the company.
2) Leave it as it is with a loss of BD180 million (half a million dinars per day) and deal with the consequences, as there are many other profitable companies running under the Gulf Air umbrella.
3) Create a new company and develop private sector partnership.
4) Shrink the company.
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Old 25th Jan 2012, 11:34
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Olbie, your earlier post at 0538 says it all again, doesn't it ? Even at this late stage the company cannot see the wood for the trees and comes up with yet another crass decision. Why should the CEO be a Bahrain National ? Give the job to the best of the worldwide applicants (are there any ?) but, as I have said before, give him/her free reign. Parliament telling a commercial airline what to do is going beyond hope. Hope & goodwill is all I can offer to all staff but being a professional pilot myself, on a pilot's forum, I have to direct my best wishes to those within my profession. Some fabulous talent here. Clear vision & loyalty as often expressed by Ironbutt57 and others like him are assets never even acknowledged by the arrogant & inept, but very well connected GF Management. Plenty of examples abound but just look down the road at EY. Hogie's hands were severely tied in GF & look what happened. At EY, same hands, untied..............World's best airline for the third year running ! I rest my case.
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Old 25th Jan 2012, 11:48
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It's interesting the fact that their own people screwed up their own country and consequently Gulf Air.

It seems that all 2007's events will come up again.

Starting a new airline with the same manpower will be a matter of time to the new airline be screwed up again.

Downsizing by 50% seems to be the best option, it will keep the local jobs since we have a good number of local captains and the first officers will be replaced by new beginners hence generating more jobs!

Politically speaking, foreigners were never welcome here.
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Old 25th Jan 2012, 12:36
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The sooner GF gets put out of its misery the better. If it was an animal in this state it would have been euthanased long ago
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