cirrus81

Would they hire someone with heavy turbo prop time say 1500? and no type rating on A320?

Immigrant

You min An-22..??????





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ME Sneak

new nas contrct

mangement think pilots are plenty.

new contrct is $8000 for cpt and $6000 for fo on 6/3.

work pilot on 35/31 lots as they are on salry, all else work little as poss as they get pay on hours.

For them think about join-
-you are on stby 24/7
-only get 24hr of every 7day(not a day) and if you not call out then is WAS then, not abel to make plan
-flt time limit ignord
-tech of airplane bad, maintince not good
-expcet to hav to fite for time of and all that promised
-coo thik he can change contrct when he like. so do hr

enjoy

Bukkake

Despite all of the problems that "ME Sneak" so eloquently listed , the job pays pretty damn well and the time off is great. Sure scheduling has their heads up their asses and Antonio is too busy crying in the halls of OCC to actually do his job, but the money is nice. The company will not even stock spare tires and has to order them sometimes taking weeks to get them, but the money is nice and did I mention the time off? Sometimes it's all about the money and if you need a job and don't mind playing Russian Roulette with your personal health and safety then I say go for it.

pilotara

I just heard from a friend who attended the event. He is A320 rated along with other aircraft types and he 's been in aviation for over 15 years.
Very unorganised and unprofessional panel of 5. very rude and everything that Fred Kezi (the recruiter) has promised or said was all a big lie. only 3 were hired from the 35 that attended.
I was looking at NAS myself but hearing all these and talking to guys already there, i am changing my mind. i wish luck to everyone, and hope for the best to everybody.

RemoveB4Flght

Hey what's up... a buddy of mine who is not on this forum was in communication with NAS and the Fred Kezzi recruiter guy. He used my account to read through this thread a couple days ago, and wanted to know if you (or your friend that attended) could provide any more details... even bad ones... about their assessment process?

Much obliged for any info, good, bad, or ugly...

Fly Ginger

I thought everyone stopped listening to Fraud kezzi a long time ago..........

On a more serious note, the word on the street is Obi 1 is set to make a dramatic return - am i the only one who thinks he looks like one of the baddies in scooby-doo..............

"i would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for you peskie kids........"

I'm Ginger, Fly me............and start updating your C.V.'s

BOEING LOVER

Very true indeed..... the whole thing was a bunch of lies! at least they should have respected all those people who paid so much money to travel to amman.

after the first day .... the 12 minute interview most of the people didnt even get contacted about the result.. you have to assume its a NO if they wont call u.............. it was embarrasing!

my friend PILOTARA thanks for posting here..... people should know the truth about the **** happening down there!

good day everybody and good luck with your future...

harlock

I confirm everything that's been said here from a close friend who attended... very experienced and also took seriously the offer "investing" a considerable amount of money to attend the interview.... I would think it twice if I was called to one of those "recruitment campaigns"....

These guys are gonna be crazy looking for captains next year when their A319s start coming in and economy has recovered(or has shown signs of it). It won't be as easy to find candidates as it is now....

I am very sorry for our fellow colleagues that took this very seriously and found nothing but

It is very good that the word spreads out..

FlyingOrange

I'm sad to hear that the recruitment in Amman did not go too well, and sorry that you considered the team rude.
Can those who ACTUALLY attend please furnish me with some more details; What they actually did for interview? Why they considered it rude? What are your qualifications (15 years in aviation and a A320 rating can mean that fly a C150 at weekends and just been to GECAT for 3 weeks for rating, or 13 1/2 years as cabin crew). What was your background, been sacked from from last companies? Who was on the 5 man team? Why was what Fred K promised a lie?

I ask these questions as I know, in the past, we have had a few of the above mentioned cases get through the system and that is now probably the cause of so many interview failures.

Sad as we need pilots now!

FO,

Ginger.... your winding me up, its not April Fools day just yet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How is the still going?

Fly Ginger

Bubbling away nicely....................

no, i'm not kidding - from our check airman (the number one check airman....................oh, thats right, we only have ONE), coming back into a training position. The 330 rumour isn't going away either, though as we are struggling with the jungle jet and the toulouse tree trimmer, adding a third type would be utterly.................................BRILLIANT

What we really need is Dr. Evil out of austin powers as our new DFO, he could come up with some reeeeeeeeeaaly evil plans....................the company would still be a mess but a least we would be having a laugh about it!!

Did somebody say we were getting 319's....................Orange will feel right at home

jimmyjoe22

well they just pay the hotel on Jordan 2 days an after 10 mins interview half aspirants were dismissed and on the sim more than a half were failed after another 15 mins sim check ...well next time better to think to go to this interview company because its a lot of money on the ticket and your chances are so low if you dont have more than 1500 TT and 500 jet,and they are planning to make 5 more screening following the same standars thats why if its near your home go but if there is faraway better to think on it.

FI 21

Hi Jimmyjoe22, did you have any interview in NAS AIR this month or some months ago?

I am writing for them to call me, i sent my application 1 and a half month ago and still waitting...

Thank you any info is well apreciatted!

regards!

skypilot320

Hi there all what your Friend told you is True 100%,I was there one of the pilots who were fuxxx by this guy Fahad S. Al Kezzi he call himself (Fred),I did spend more than 700euros on a flight ticket plus food there too,and I have no job now,also I have a family and kids,that was not all they were planing to put us out of our rooms in the street after the interview,so we will sleep in the streettoo!!,that (Fred) guy is the biggest liar,one of the pilots with us was so angry with him he was going to beat him up,that is what today Airlines do to the pilots,unorganised and unprofessional,very rude,we were thinking to send all a letter to Mr.Suliman ِAbdullah Al-Hamdanthe CEO of this NAS Airline to tell him about what happend with us in Amman,and we ask them to pay back our flight tickets to Amman

pilotara: Say

I just heard from a friend who attended the event. He is A320 rated along with other aircraft types and he 's been in aviation for over 15 years.
Very unorganised and unprofessional panel of 5. very rude and everything that Fred Kezi (the recruiter) has promised or said was all a big lie. only 3 were hired from the 35 that attended.
I was looking at NAS myself but hearing all these and talking to guys already there, i am changing my mind. i wish luck to everyone, and hope for the best to everybody.

Bukkake

Sorry to hear about the bad interview experiences. NAS is and likely will always be very disorganized in everything they do including hiring. When I was hired, they didn't even interview me, they just told me to show up for day one of "indoc" if you can even call it that. It is interesting to see that they are going through all of this time and expense to interview now, especially since we need pilots ASAP. But for all of the B.S. getting hired, going through the "training" and flying the line here, it actually is a very good place to work if you want to make a lot of money. Good luck to everyone.

FlyingOrange

It used to be the place to make money!!! The new contracts are about $2000 dollars down on the old ones.

Now if they want to change your contract they just cancel your visa, sack you for their mistake then offer you a new contract on worse terms, ask a Lemon.!

ItsAjob

Its the greedy agencies that are short changing us

birddog73

Think twice before coming to NAS. Training takes at least 6 months on average. Which you may or may not get to got to go home. Don't plan on flying more then the 50 hours a month when you do fly. So no matter what Fred tells you you will only make minimum pay. For the first year expect to be home for visa or other problems at least 3 months out of 12. (when I think about it that is a positive.)

The place is very disoragnised and will not be getting better anytime soon. Don't treat it as a long term job with the way they waste money. Upper management has big plans with expansion, but flt ops cannot support it and will not for a long time to come.

Living conditions are okay expecially if it is 6/3 contract. Money is not any better to come full time . Morale is low and everypilot is looking for new job.

For those who went to the interviews in Amman. The way you were treated at the event is the same as working at NAS.

Unless you need a job and cannot find one anywere else stay away from NAS.

System Logic

For the most part, what has been said on here is truth. things aren't a well oiled machine like we would want them to be. however, right now, it is not a bad gig in this economic climate. i dont know too many guys here that are looking for this place to be the career airline.

the time line for training is accurate, for the EMB, not the 320. it is a fairly smooth operation on the 320 side. on the EMB side, there are not enough TRE/TRI to do the intial IOE stuff. also GACA is hard to nail down for the captain rides.

as for F.K., he is a joke. don't believe a word he says. he thinks that he swings a big axe around here, but he is a recruiter. once you are in, thankfully, you have nothing to do with the guy. there are 3 contracts out there right now, 35-31 (all but done), storm agency (no new contracts to be issued) and the direct (the company is now pushing one and all towards these). the basic money is less on the direct contract, but if you fly a bunch, and with the additionals, you can possibly make a bit more money than before the new contract. possibly !!!

not sure about upgrades. some of the expat guys are due the upgrade, but are in the office trying to justify why they should get it, even though they meet the company published upgrade criteria ?? will have to wait and see on that front.

not much of a social life, especially once checked to line. if you are lucky enough to get a day or two off, you are recharging the batteries. some are off to other compounds to enjoy themselves, others to the gym, some you never see. no booze in the country, although some do attempt it

this place is what you make of it. if you come here expecting PBS, a hard and fast contract, a union, etc, you will be shagged after the first month. it does not happen like that here. on the 6 and 3 contract, you should know that you are going to play by their rules (and they change them sometimes) and probably fly a fair bit for 6 weeks. then, you are going to go home, and not give a rats' kyber about the place for 20 or so days. then you do it again. you do it, till you have had enough for good !

all done, ask away

Fly Ginger

Well i never thought i would hear the words smooth operation, 320 and NAS in the same sentence....................

Fly me, i'm Ginger