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Old 4th Sep 2008, 03:20
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Mosque Induced Fatigue Issues.

I realize in advance that this is a sensitive subject but I want to know if it is normal practice to use the external PA systems on mosques to broadcast the Imam's sermon as well as the call to prayer.

I understand that the initial call to prayer is broadcast but I have not noticed other mosques then continue to broadcast the whole sermon. Perhaps it is particular to Ramadan but any information would help.

Our compound and several in the vicinity have 30-60 minute sermons at 9:30 pm and at 5 am which disturb all our rest.

I have been here over 7 years and have never had a problem with this until a new mosque was built next to us recently, the house insulation is useless to prevent this disrupting sleep patterns from its sound system.

Is there anyway of finding our what is normal practice, acceptable sound levels and if it is possible to complain?

Seriously, any constructive advice greatly appreciated.
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If you are fatigued you do not go to work - the cause of the fatigue is irrelevant.
Period.
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Devil Mosque Induced Fatigue Issues

leave the country if you dont like it I realize in advance that this is a sensitive subject
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Dial 2 Habib!
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Its a ramadhan thing

dial 2 for the next 20 odd days!
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Use ear plugs until you get used to it.
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Mosques should not employ Imams or Mullahs who have weak voices. Period.
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it is amsjed

sir you got this right it is very a sensitive issue
1 the prayer is like this in the holy month of ramdan.
2 in other monthes it is in out side speakers in 3 times only fajr, maghreb and ishha.
3 in ramdan above is true in addition to salat alkiaam . starts after ishha prayer and lasts for 1 hour.
4 salat altahajod in the last ten days of the holy month starts on 0100am or it varries between diffrent masjed but mostly around this time and lasta also for 1 or 1 and half hours.
i hope i answered your questions about is it normal.
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aquaint yourself with the concept of the dhimmie in Islam...

and no matter what the cause is, don't fly fatigued!

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use double glaze windows or if you cannot join them you might have a different attitude to this issue
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Thanks Yellow Cab that's what I was wanting to find out.

Safe flying to you too.
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The question that has not been answered is why it is necessary to broadcast the prayers by PA systems. Surely, this has nothing to do with tradition and thus cannot be justified.
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Surely, this has nothing to do with tradition and thus cannot be justified
Usually it's the tradition that doesn't need to be justified... since it's a tradition, it applies. The purpose of prayer call is to be heard, it's been like that for centuries, nothing new. Now they use PA since it's more difficult to reach you with all the surrounding noise and house isolation. Bells are ringing every 30 mins in the church 15 mins from my european house. I never had any pb to fly because of that.
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Church bells

are indeed a nuissance, and in most European countries there are restrictions put on it on request of the citizens. Most churches only ring twice a day in congested aereas or they do not ring at all at night.
Yes the tradition was to tell the people the time since in the old times people did not have watches. Nowadays this tradition is obsolete.

The same goes for these annoying prayers at 4am, why can these people just set their clocks for sunrise if they wish do pray?
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Cotton wool provided!

I believe there have been 'attempts' to control the use of speaker systems in the UAE nothing more than stipulating a maximum volume permitted, failed miserably!

I've heard lots of interesting stories about the introduction of speakers including one told to me by an old local in Fujairah who would have you believe that the speakers were introduced because a local Sheikh complained that when the Imam climbed the minaret he could see down into the Sheikh's compound and therefore was able to see his wife(s) going about their daily business without the cover of the hijab. an invasion of privacy then was the catalyst for the introduction of pop concert style speaker systems!

A friend of mine who may not last that much longer in the region tends to fight fire with fire and has been known occasionally to set up his sony music centre speakers outside and play his favourite Peters&Lee classics! certainly not a practice which I would condone! can't believe he hasn't been deported yet!

What about the poor flyer who lives in the quaint English village with the medieval Church which rings it's bells with such vigor and not forgetting those towns and villages which seem to think that everyone needs to be reminded what time of the day it is every fifteen minutes of the day! my thoughts go out to those poor folk who live within earshot of such a nuisance.
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In winter it gets worse

Finally the climate gets better, time to bbq, sit outside, some fresh air and turning the ac's off. And then at 4am the blaring, again 30min later, not only once, no at least 10 different ones over and over again.
I guess your friend had it, I guess one of the two bucket is now full enough
, I hope it is the one with the $
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Bladepilot - having lived next door to the bells of Worcester Cathedral for many years I'll take the bells over the mullah any day. Nor do I recall the bells ringing at 9pm for AN HOUR, nor at 4:30AM...
Apparently Marooned, 6 extra speakers on this particular mosque at the moment I really think it's a finger up at us after some of us asked the mullah to turn the volume down
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WK: I think you're right, the so called double glazing is no match for the extra decibels and you can't use ear plugs if you have small kids to listen out for... my wife and I just take turns with them so at least one of us gets some sleep.
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OK.

You live in a Islamic country and you should really get use to it, Do you really think you can complain about something religious?

Thats like saying i can complain to the BBC because on Christmas they only put chorals shows, but i respect that Or complain to the churches because of them bells, Its religion and no one should discuss a matter like this PERIOD dont like it? Find a job in another country that is not islamic, PROBLEM SOLVED!

Its a very religious month for muslims and you should truly respect that.


Some comments are so useless, MOVE or respect the religion Never in my life have i took the piss or not respected a religion.

Dont like it? Dont work for people that have that religion or live in the country.

Just respect that religion, just because your not that faith does not mean that they should turn the speakers off for you, Just get use to it!

Marooned your questions are perfectly normal,I hope you got your answers off someone else, now close the thread before it turns NASTY!
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It Is Very Annoying, I Agree

You can approach the mosque ( moa'then ) and request them to turn the speakers' volume down a little , and I am sure they will do it . Officially they should not switch the external speakers on, only entrnal but some IMAMS get carried away .
( moa'then: the person who makes the call to prayers on the pa.)
Happy ramadan.
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