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Old 19th Jun 2009, 00:54
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Thanks Fly2AK

Many thanks Fly2AK and Ex-XL.

I wonder if the FO package would be enough to get by with a wife and a 5 year old kid...

Any thoughts on the expected time to upgrade?
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Old 19th Jun 2009, 06:15
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The latest is EK 777 fo's will be offered transfer LHS due to the upgrade change at EK, if you recall the aiplanes numbers of 650+ that incluced FD and what ever else they come up with.
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Old 19th Jun 2009, 07:17
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From what I have been told they expect upgrade to be pretty fast as early as 1 year. I would expect upgrades for the first set of FO's hired in 2009/2010 to upgrade within 2 years. As far as being enough to support a wife and 5 year old child, it should be no problem. Good luck.

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Old 21st Jun 2009, 15:53
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Ex-xl -are you sure about the staff travel/interline rumour?-that would not make people happy-not just commuters but people who would view this as an opportunity for travel.

cheers/thanks and good luck
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Old 21st Jun 2009, 17:20
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Hi,
I have been selected for Maintenance Controller position as per my recruitment consultancy. However they have not yet sent any offer letter. It is one month since interview was conducted.

Kindly let me know if this is normal for Flydubai HR.

Thanks
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Old 22nd Jun 2009, 09:42
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Not sure about for the MX guys but for pilots it took about 2 months before we received any off letter from them. They have been busy, but if you have any questions feel free to email your recruiter. Cheers.
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Old 22nd Jun 2009, 15:56
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Fatbus???

Excuse me Fatbus but I didn't quite understand your last post.

Could you please elaborate?
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Old 25th Jun 2009, 17:33
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Got a call for an assessment/interview in july with Flydubai , can anyone give me some info on what to expect ??? sim check info and the assessment info would be great , thks
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fly dubai hiring

has anyone been for an interview with flydubai recently ...r these guys still hiring..how long have u had 2 wait for an interview call ..
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Old 27th Jun 2009, 17:25
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yes they are actively hiring and people are interviewing next month. Check out previous post on here
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Old 1st Jul 2009, 23:19
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I have found quite a few houses for less than 190K/year, but a lot of them seem to want the year in advance. Any neighborhoods to stay away from for those who are already in the area?

Does anyone have the complete breakdown on the package for FOs?

Thank you!

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Old 2nd Jul 2009, 22:57
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Flydubai terms and conditions cut 10%

The rumoured drop of 10% in term and conditions that ex-XLís post speaks about is accurate I can confirm that this is true as I have seen an email received by a friend of mine that stated the following.

The reductionís are in the following areas,

For Captains

Basic Salary from AED 25,480 dropped to AED 23,500

Housing Allowance from AED 16,000 dropped to AED 14,000

Transport Allowance from AED 4,000 dropped to AED 2,300

The only thing that stays the same is the Variable flight pay this is still AED 150 which if flying 80 hours is AED 12,000

Projected total now is AED 51,800/month

It would be interested to know if the pilots that are already there and working, will have there terms change also or will it be a case of two pilots doing the same job but one gets more just because he started sooner than the other.

The First Officers

Basic is now 17,000
Housing 12,000
Transport 1,700
Flight pay 100

Projected 38,700

Donít suppose the training bond will be reduced by 10%
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Old 3rd Jul 2009, 02:17
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If you come to FlyDubai already rated in the 737NG, am I correct to imply the $24k bond does not apply then?
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Old 3rd Jul 2009, 05:28
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mikehagen, the update I've had is that a Training Bond is being applied even to B737 Type Rated pilots. $24,000 reducing monthly over three years. This amount was not previously disclosed to those type rated pilots who joined already and they are now been pressed to sign this bond retrospectively.
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Old 3rd Jul 2009, 08:57
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ex-XL is correct on this one yes if you are type rated it doesnít matter you will still be bonded. You can have the 737-800 on your licence with thousands of hours on the very aircraft Flydubai will fly but you will still be bonded. Like ex-XL has said itís a three year bond that reduces each month you work there. So you will pay back a proportionate amount if you leave before your three years are finished.
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Old 3rd Jul 2009, 16:51
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Let me get this right, first there's a 10% reduction in the package to swallow and moreover you are still bonded even if you are type rated in the very 737-800...

Let me think what's next... ask us to assume the doggy position?
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Old 3rd Jul 2009, 19:41
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Just in case anyone thinks the pay reduction BEFORE YOU EVEN JOIN is fiction or just typical pilot gossip, an excerpt from an email sent to a prospective joiner:

Dear Candidate,
We are writing to congratulate you again on your success in our flydubai
Pilot Selection Program. We appreciate your continued interest in our
small but rapidly growing family and look forward to seeing you in Dubai
once again.

We are also writing to advise you of modifications to our Terms and
Conditions for pilots. The revised compensation plan is attached for
your review. While the overall compensation scheme represents an
approximate 10% reduction to the program presented to you during your
interview, we feel it accurately reflects the reduced costs associated
with living and working in Dubai.
Wow! Usually they wait until AFTER you join to start the raping! The next "Advise of modifications" to your Terms of Service and the contract BOTH PARTIES SIGN, will be a memo released to you via email after you join. Usually on a Thursday afternoon, in typical cowardly fashion. At least at this point you still have the chance to tell them to FOXTROT OSCAR!!

Good god how desperate do you have to be to work for these clowns? I know, I know global crisis meltdown economic sky falling etc ad nauseum...but seriously...unless you're getting a gun stuck in your face weekly like our good colleagues from Joburg, in which case I understand the desire to move along...??? WTF??
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Old 4th Jul 2009, 00:57
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The post are correct and pay was reduced 10% for all new joiners. I also know a lot of people are interested in schedules and commutability. Right now the rosters will not accomadate a commuter. We are only scheduled at the present time anywhere from 4 to 8 days off a month and at most only 2 days off in a row. There is a lot of reserve days built into schedules on the days you are not rostered to fly. However, we are hopeful we can resolve the roster issue in the near future, but at this time there has not been any progress, nor is there any sign of progress. Take it for what is worth. I feel it is only fair for those considering a position with FD to be informed of the facts of a position before they except any offer. Good luck
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Old 4th Jul 2009, 01:53
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Fly2AK,

How do you feel now about your decision to join FD?

Presumably your salary has not been cut (yet) and the cuts are only for new joiners?

Do you get concession travel on Emirates/ FlyDubai?

What are the pax loads like? I get the impression that FD is in financial strife if they are cutting wages by 10% and they have only been operating for less than 1 month. It doesn't bode well for the future.
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Old 4th Jul 2009, 03:24
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Mike Hagen,

Welcome to the Middle East! Better to stay in America and enjoy Taco Bell.
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