Emirates Hold Pool

[Saltaire]

I get it now, you are one of those from a crappy Asian airline as an FO where you couldn't look up without permission. No wonder you love this place so much. And if others are in the same position, then I guess it is a much better opportunity. To each his own.

[Jet II]

Originally Posted by Saltaire

Many people in the right seat would be more than happy staying where they are living in a free society, trusting others, backed by laws, living in cleaner air, and not having to watch their back at every decision.

If they are that unhappy then perhaps they should leave - nobody is pointing a gun at you to make you stay.

Many people enjoy the lifestyle here in the UAE but it isn't for everyone. If you dislike hot weather and sand and want democracy, human rights, green fields and walks though country meadows then you really do have to ask yourself why they moved to a city in the middle of the desert in the first place.

Life's too short to sit whinging on PPrune - if it isn't working out for whatever reason then move on and do something different - there are jobs out there and even if it means you end up bush flying in Alaska without all the free accommodation, cheap travel etc. at least you will be a happy.

[kiwi]

Jet II, you are conveniently forgetting that this company does like to enforce the bits of the contract that suit them i.e. the training bond.
Also the setup costs when first moving here is not inconsiderable. To walk away owing money at a time when there are few oportunities isn't a luxury many can afford in this environment.
The issue for these people, I believe, is that they left jobs to come here believing certain things that they were told through the recruitment process and now having left the job they had, find they are literally stuck.
It not as simple as "if you don't like it leave", that some like to trot out.

[cosmodrift]

...the matter explored was time to promotion. Just time to promotion. So, in this particular matter, the comparison applies.

Once again because you are slow Saltaire.

We are still 30% short of CX in pay and benefits, and that's B scale.

Man, you see what I mean? You are comparing EK with CX, a top top contender. That is not only valid, but also states we can't put EK benefits as average in the market.

I get it now, you are one of those from a crappy Asian airline as an FO where you couldn't look up without permission.

As I said, you are slow. You figured something said way before. This is part of my experience, yes.

No wonder you love this place so much.

The place fits my needs now. That's it.

It not as simple as "if you don't like it leave", that some like to trot out.

Training bond holds no one that needs or wants to go. How many left when things got better in their home countries? How many paid anything?
Beside, company changes the contract, company gives you an excuse to leave. So leave...

[pilot_guy1]

Brilliant Reply !

Hi Jet II,

Mate, i think your post/ reply to all the bitching sums the entire topic just perfect.
Infact .... its simply Brilliant and correctly said in just a few words.

Im just a poolie waiting for the call from EK in the near future.
keeping my fingers crossed for a call by the end of this year.

Regards

[Obbie]

Fellow Poolie.........

If you did not recieve a email invite for a course a couple of
weeks ago, then it is all over. You can expect a "You have expired"
email at some point in the future.

Back to square one, and reapply if you are still interested.

Boy do I ever "Keep Discovering" when it comes to this company.

[gecko21]

Hi folks,
Cavnotok said:

There are other opportunities around

.

I'll really appreciate any suggestions.
My company went bankrupt last year and all I could find is flying wet lease in KSA. 30 days on, 10 days off.
They pay me 4000 euro a month, no insurance, 1 year contract, maybe 3 but not sure. They also arrange a flt within the saudi network to go back Europe. That's it.
I'm a first officer 9000 flt hrs 5500 hard time, 3500 military.
I can imagine EK is not what it used to be but the other opportunities around are not that good.
EK has just told me I'm a brand new poolie, am I lucky? My family is excited thinking about the possible new experience, do you guys have any suggestions?

[gecko21]

to Asianlonghaul

My interview was on feb2009. I know there are more than 100 ahead of me waiting.......They just said you may be called by Feb 2010,after 1 year you will have to re-apply.

I'm just trying to understand if EK has became a real nightmare or if it's just worst than it used to be. If someone think that there are better opportunities somewhere just let me know, I'm going to apply right now.
Of course I mean real opportunities not dreams like LH-AF-BA etc etc
Thanks for any suggestions.

[takisdro]

Gecko,I was interviewed April last year and I was a poolie ever since.Now they did call people for hiring,they didn't call me and they didn't tell me I am out,either.As far as I know there are plenty like me and the biggest mistake was that I told my family,as well.I shouldn't.Let it happen first and then consider.I know Dubai well,first time I was there was five years ago and it was cheap,last time was six months ago and it was expensive,which made me happy that they gave a solution for me on what to do.Still if your job sucks then go for it but meanwhile keep searching,so you don't end up waiting with no results.
Wish you luck.

[gecko21]

Thank you Takisdro, all the best to you too.

[fjordviking]

gecko 21

Have you looked into maybe switching into the bizjet world?
I know the likes of Jet Republic are hiring at the moment. you will need
the right to live and work in Europe though.

Other bizjet jobs are available even in these trying times, but you need to know the right people.

Fjordviking

[cochise]

I just can't fathom how an interview with a company can "expire". If a candidate had what it takes to make it the first time, why should they have to go through the process a second time? It is such a shame that the HR people do not have to go through a similar screening when it comes to their pencil pushing jobs. Then maybe they'd understand the stress of an interview, the continued trial of wading in a holding pool and finally being told that you have to reapply again and go through the whole experience just to prove that you still "have what it takes"

[fatbus]

They put alot of emphasis on the phych eval and claim it is only valid for 12 months

[gecko21]

A question for EK pilots

Hi guys,
just a curiosity, if you have the chance (which I doubt) where would you like to fly in Emirates? Boeing or Airbus?

In matter of:

Careers opportunity: I know that a new joiner doesn't have any, but in the long term, considering the A380/A350 or the 777 fleet completition

Quality of life: Days off or fatigue after a turnaround

Type rating: chances to find a job when/if you leave DXB.

Thank you for any reply

[Flaite]

I accepted a 777 offer for mid august... im resigning on friday .
One quick question, which bank is better? HSBC or the local one? I will need to send some cash back home.
Thanks.

[xkred27]

They obviously don't do the psych. test anymore. Because any normal
person wouldn't come here.

[Trader]

HSBC!!! Though if I choose lloyds which offer EK pilot one free transfer a month or 100dmns $20 for each one after.

Better rep than HSBC as well.

[Saltaire]

No clear winner I don't think...HSBC is good in that many ATM's and on line banking is quite good. One free wire transfer per month as well. I would recommend opening the account at the Jebel Ali branch, going to Deira, the other main branch is a nightmare.

Ta

[fatbus]

Do keep in mind that HSBC in Dubai is a middle east bank it only shares the name with HSBC. Not a big deal. I think the only bank that is not a Mid East bank is Lloyd's. Mashreq is ok as well and has a deal with EPC.

[The Darkness]

Well, it's clear that I won't have to be making a decision on banks in Dubai. Not taken out of the holding pool.

Anyone know when we'll be sent the "official" word of "thanks but not this time"?

The Darkness