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Old 18th May 2009, 05:00
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I too wished I had better news. But it is pretty obvious that only a handful of eligible candidates will be left over. Communications with HR indicate that a number of poolies will become ineligible due to lack of currency/recency, others as a result of notification periods to their current employers in excess of 3 months.
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Old 19th May 2009, 02:33
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Fly DUBAI

Im shocked that EK HR rather let everyone expire than offer Fly Dubai as a alternate solution . Even if we dont take it thats the least they could do for having us wait for over a year
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Old 19th May 2009, 03:06
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The level of the pool will slowly start reducing. Hang in there, recruitment starts soon.
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Old 19th May 2009, 04:27
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So when you say "recruitment starts soon", are you referring to poolies soon getting contracts? or the whole recruitment/interview process will start again soon?
It appears to me that the pool is being depleted quickly due to application expiration and lack of currency. The big question still remains, when will the few still a float receive a contract?
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Old 19th May 2009, 05:57
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Unfortunately EK want to rid themselves of some of the poolies. This is the reason for some of the restrictions they have imposed. A very large number of hight time widebody Airbus and Boeing pilots on the market and EK want them or as many as they can get. Also, and this is nothing personnel, but EK has not had a great deal of success with CRJ/RAJ pilots, stats speak for themselves. Certain countries seem to have pilots that come expecting to hand fed everything and just have a hard time with the shortness of the training.

For those that do come, do the work and try not to fall behind. It tends to pick up speed going down hill.
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Old 19th May 2009, 11:20
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I have to agree, although some are quiet capable and will be fine. However, correct me if I'm wrong, but each of the recent spat of incidences have involved this group from the RJ world. Some unfortunate timing with those of this type of background in the pool.

I do feel though, that if you preformed well and passed the interview, then I think you should be given the opportunity. Unfair to brushstroke the entire group...
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Old 19th May 2009, 16:04
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I agree with Saltaire. Not fair to say all CRJ/ERJ guys are not up to speed. You will find some great pilots and personalities among them and great experience, as goes for any fleet around the world. You also get your bad apples in the bunch as well with any plane/company. I have to say thought that RJ pilots for the most part fly multiple flights a day in and out of poor weather and difficult conditions and gain lots of experience as opposed to 1 T/O and landing in a 10 hour period. Most will do fine with a high workload. My 2 cents.
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Old 20th May 2009, 02:22
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If rj/erj guys past the interview, then they should get the same level of respect that others have gotten. I am in the pool at another carrier and i recently just found out that i am slotted for a class above guys with boeing/airbus and military background. I spoke to my current hr recruiter and he told me that they dont discriminate between the types.

If you are good enought to get hired, then you are good enough for class.

Wish you poolies the best, and i hope that hr shows some sort of professionalism to atleast update you guys on the situation. I made my decision awhile back, but it hurts to see so many pilots hanging on a string waiting for emirates to show some sign of responsibility.

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Old 20th May 2009, 03:12
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I'm sorry to say this, but it's got nothing to do with respect regarding the rj/crj guys. In the current climate Emirates will take pilots with widebody experience first, plain and simple. EK only took people with rj etc. experience because they had to, not 'cause they wanted to.

Regarding Fly Dubai, EK has no hand in it, it's not their place to offer you a position there. (Yes, I know they helped with FD's recruitment for a bit)
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Old 20th May 2009, 04:57
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So any idea as to when recruitment might restart? Mid to late '09? Or is this wishful thinking?

Cheers,

OW

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Old 20th May 2009, 05:36
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Guys Crj guys or no Crj Guys, Lets face it, the glory days of EK are over. The havent hired anybody in over a year,and unlike Ethihad, Qatar, Gulf Air, the profits are given to the royals, not vice versa. I will bet anything that EK lost money last financial year and thats the reason for holding back the numbers. My point is there is nobody to bail them out if they dont make a profit. Lets see how long their cash reserves last. And for you guys asking about recruitment, be polite their are still 150 in a waiting/holdpool list, so hold your horse and get in line.
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Old 20th May 2009, 06:07
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Fub,

You really have no clue what your talking about, it's not based on any facts but speculation and mostly envy. If EK called you tomorrow, you'd be dancing and on the next available flight. EK has been and is still the most desired outfit in the region. Etihad has developed a good foundation based on petro dollars, but it's still not nearly the brand. Qatar and GF are a distant third and fourth...

We wish you the best
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Old 20th May 2009, 07:10
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Hahahahahahahah sureeeee budy keep dreaming
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Old 20th May 2009, 08:26
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Fub habibi, have you been smoking that funny Shisha again

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Old 20th May 2009, 08:58
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Fub,

It's interesting, you state (with some authority I might add) that "The (sic) haven't hired anyone for over a year", yet a quick glance at the seniority list tells me that exactly 236 new pilots have joined between 19th May 2008 and today.

I would hazard a wild guess (something you seem to have down to a fine art), that 236 new pilots in the last year is precisely 236 more than the 'tin pot' outfit you work for has hired!!

Mate (and I use that term loosely), do everyone a favour and keep your trap shut. Unless of course you actually know what you are talking about (which I very much doubt).

BTW I'm very glad our recruitment department rejected you (Soooooo obvious!)
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Old 20th May 2009, 09:37
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Kudos to recruitment, another loose cannon denied. What a sad display.

Good luck to those that deserve it.
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Old 20th May 2009, 11:06
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Some recruitment may occur around Sept this year, however it won't be in the numbers that we have seen previously.
This is due to all pilots now flying more hours per month than before.

I think that if you are not experienced on either B777 or A330/340 with sufficent experinece, your chances this year are going to be slim.

I'm afraid that manegement have cottoned on to the idea that it is cheaper to pay the guys for more flying per month (without the overtime) than it is to recruit (having to pay a basic salary, accommodation and so on)

So if you look at the numbers I gave in another previously the average crew per A/C will go from about 8 to just around 7.

Good luck,

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Old 20th May 2009, 14:05
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Still the update letter that came on April says a little different and so many rumors in this forum were wrong(I don't blame anybody,it is after all a rumor's forum),so why not to keep up with what Emirates is saying,which it seems that it is going on a plan?
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Old 20th May 2009, 14:14
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Thanks OZ, though not what I wanted to hear.

Regards,

OW

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Old 20th May 2009, 15:01
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Some of you need to show some respect to the numerous poolies who are on this board. Many people interivewed, hired, and waited to no avail but the only thing some of you can ask is when the hiring resumes.

Show some respect and go ask that question on a thread that is designed for interviews and interview questions. We step on each other to show our own personal indulgences and negate the feelings of so many who were hired who are waiting for any chance of an update.

Fub, you are most likely right about hiring crj/erj guys but i was the only person hired in my group so that does not mean that ek was forced to hire me cause they did not have any pilots to choose from...they hired me for the simple reason i met all their requirements.

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