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I see that Emirates, Etihad and Qatar are all looking for direct entry Captains, although the latter two don't much interest me.
I have a few questions about life at EK that I can't seem to find answers to.
With regard to the "provident fund", where does this money go? Into the bank, fund, country of your choice? How much would a Captain reasonably expect to accrue after seven years? How much is the end of service bonus?
I see that there is an option for unfurnished accomodation, how many square feet do they normally run?
What is silicon oasis?
Can an expat buy/own/sell property in the UAE? Is there oceanfront available?
Can I import my vehicles into the UAE from Canada?
Does one have to take the 42 day leave all at once or could you take a week every second month?
Is there deeply discounted travel on EK and other airlines?
I heard a rumour that EK's budget for schooling is often maxed out leaving employees to pay for their own childrens' education?
I understand the sales of alcohol are limited, but can you bring alcohol into the country that you bought on a pairing?
Is it true that the government restricts internet use including VOIP service?
Finally, I can't imagine that there is a need for DECs every month, how often does EK take on DECs and are they welcome by the rest of the pilot community , realistically, what is the mood toward someone stepping straight into the left seat?
I realize these things seem inconsequential to some, but they are importatnt to me. Fact is, I have an excellent job with an unmatched savings plan, I just thought a change might be as good as a rest.
One final thing, I see that 3000 hours PIC is required on aircraft larger than 55 metric tons, is that hard and fast? For example, the B737-200 at 119500 lbs, is 54.3 tons. Was this number picked in order to exclude, the -200, the F-28 and DC-9 etc...
My thanks to those that take the time to answer,
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I have a few questions about life at EK that I can't seem to find answers to.
With regard to the "provident fund", where does this money go? Into the bank, fund, country of your choice? How much would a Captain reasonably expect to accrue after seven years? How much is the end of service bonus?
I see that there is an option for unfurnished accomodation, how many square feet do they normally run?
What is silicon oasis?
Can an expat buy/own/sell property in the UAE? Is there oceanfront available?
Can I import my vehicles into the UAE from Canada?
Does one have to take the 42 day leave all at once or could you take a week every second month?
Is there deeply discounted travel on EK and other airlines?
I heard a rumour that EK's budget for schooling is often maxed out leaving employees to pay for their own childrens' education?
I understand the sales of alcohol are limited, but can you bring alcohol into the country that you bought on a pairing?
Is it true that the government restricts internet use including VOIP service?
Finally, I can't imagine that there is a need for DECs every month, how often does EK take on DECs and are they welcome by the rest of the pilot community , realistically, what is the mood toward someone stepping straight into the left seat?
I realize these things seem inconsequential to some, but they are importatnt to me. Fact is, I have an excellent job with an unmatched savings plan, I just thought a change might be as good as a rest.
One final thing, I see that 3000 hours PIC is required on aircraft larger than 55 metric tons, is that hard and fast? For example, the B737-200 at 119500 lbs, is 54.3 tons. Was this number picked in order to exclude, the -200, the F-28 and DC-9 etc...
My thanks to those that take the time to answer,
le 69
le 69
Last edited by le soixante neuf; 26th Jan 2008 at 00:12.
With regard to the "provident fund", where does this money go? Into the bank, fund, country of your choice?
How much would a Captain reasonably expect to accrue after seven years?
see that there is an option for unfurnished accomodation, how many square feet do they normally run?
What is silicon oasis?
Can an expat buy/own/sell property in the UAE?
Is there oceanfront available?
Can I import my vehicles into the UAE from Canada?
Does one have to take the 42 day leave all at once
could you take a week every second month?
Is there deeply discounted travel on EK and other airlines?
heard a rumour that EK's budget for schooling is often maxed out leaving employees to pay for their own childrens' education?
I understand the sales of alcohol are limited, but can you bring alcohol into the country that you bought on a pairing?
Yes in Dubai, but you can also buy unlimited (and untaxed) amounts in the neighbouring Emirates, Um Al Quain and Ras Al Khama.
Is it true that the government restricts internet use including VOIP service?
how often does EK take on DECs
realistically, what is the mood toward someone stepping straight into the left seat?
I see that 3000 hours PIC is required on aircraft larger than 55 metric tons, is that hard and fast? For example, the B737-200 at 119500 lbs, is 54.3 tons. Was this number picked in order to exclude, the -200, the F-28 and DC-9 etc...
Hope that helps!!
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Two more questions...
Thank you for your time and answers, my wife and I read it with interest. I also found the website www.siliconoasis.org. Pictures mean thousands of words. Very nice setup indeed, not what I expected to see. If you chose to make this your permanent home, will EK move you without cause?
My last question is this, Is it true that EK keeps posession of your families' passports, or are my wife and boys free to travel without me?
Thanks again.
My last question is this, Is it true that EK keeps posession of your families' passports, or are my wife and boys free to travel without me?
Thanks again.
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Does one have to take the 42 day leave all at once
You can bid for 3 chunks of 'peak' leave (summer, xmas, Easter)
Also 3 chunks of non-peak leave.
You will only be awarded one peak leave slot and the dates can be vastly different to your bid.
DEC s integrate well here as long as they adopt the EK philosophy. For details on EK philosophy click here.
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Right now there's around soixante trois F/Os who have been at EK for close to or over four years. Some of them have medium jet command time with major carriers. All of them were experienced crew at their time of joining EK.
Pre DEC program most of them would have expected a command opportunity at EK at around three years and they joined with that expectation.
The DEC program was created as a stop-gap in late 2003 to crew the sudden arrival of the ex Singapore Airlines 340s. EK realized how cheap the DECs are and they're still recruiting them.
The result is that EK now gets plenty of DEC applicants (although many fail the selection process) but no longer gets the quality of F/O applicants in the quantity that it needs because it is well known that progression from right to left seat at EK has become a lottery.
So who wins? Not the F/Os for sure. Cost-wise maybe the company, for the moment anyway. The DECs win but at the expense of the command salaries and seniority of the four years and counting F/Os.
No surprise that a lot of the bad press that EK gets on this forum is a direct consequence of the DEC program. Go figure.
Pre DEC program most of them would have expected a command opportunity at EK at around three years and they joined with that expectation.
The DEC program was created as a stop-gap in late 2003 to crew the sudden arrival of the ex Singapore Airlines 340s. EK realized how cheap the DECs are and they're still recruiting them.
The result is that EK now gets plenty of DEC applicants (although many fail the selection process) but no longer gets the quality of F/O applicants in the quantity that it needs because it is well known that progression from right to left seat at EK has become a lottery.
So who wins? Not the F/Os for sure. Cost-wise maybe the company, for the moment anyway. The DECs win but at the expense of the command salaries and seniority of the four years and counting F/Os.
No surprise that a lot of the bad press that EK gets on this forum is a direct consequence of the DEC program. Go figure.