Emirates dropping requirements
Thread Starter
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 137
Likes: 0
From: Big Whiskey
Emirates dropping requirements
This weeks Flight has a new style add from EK stipulating the 4000/2000 hrs jet requirement but then says that pilots within 500 hours of either of these totals will be considered.. fair enough and about time given their expansion plans, but why not just drop requirements to 3500/1500 jet??
Blue Foot
Blue Foot
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 4,835
Likes: 85
From: Boldly going where no split infinitive has gone before..
For that matter, why require actual jet time at all? You have to fly your first jet somewhere, why not here?
If they dropped that requirement, they would get a whole lot of interest from experienced Turb-prop guys.
Maybe they might have to specify a little longer to upgrade (I personally don't think they would need to), but it would still attract a lot of good guys.
If they dropped that requirement, they would get a whole lot of interest from experienced Turb-prop guys.
Maybe they might have to specify a little longer to upgrade (I personally don't think they would need to), but it would still attract a lot of good guys.
Moderator
Joined: Jun 2001
Aviation Qualifications: ATPL
Posts: 1,490
Likes: 32
From: Blighty
Ab initios get a lot of training, lots of sectors and simulator. By and large the guys are good when they finish. New joiners, expats now get standard sim check, check checking, not much training. Then they get a whacking great
allowance of 10 sectors line training on type
B1900 to 777-300ER, hmmmm. No wonder i've had to rescue the odd landing from newly released to line FO's
EGGW
allowance of 10 sectors line training on type
B1900 to 777-300ER, hmmmm. No wonder i've had to rescue the odd landing from newly released to line FO's
EGGW
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 320
Likes: 0
From: i don't know
Agree.
So it's comes down a matter of training. With it you can make any pilot legal (to whatever any GCAA muppet deems necessary). And i never contested that. Maybe prop guys just need that little extra and they're fine.
Concerning your other comment, EK seems to breed a lot of heroes. Some save the poor passengers from underperforming FO's and many, many others save them from absolutely incompetent DEC's.
So it's comes down a matter of training. With it you can make any pilot legal (to whatever any GCAA muppet deems necessary). And i never contested that. Maybe prop guys just need that little extra and they're fine.
Concerning your other comment, EK seems to breed a lot of heroes. Some save the poor passengers from underperforming FO's and many, many others save them from absolutely incompetent DEC's.
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 655
Likes: 0
From: Magic Kingdom
All the airlines in the US hire from their regional turboprop fleets.
Even the retired Air Force/Navy pilots/aviators tend to start on their 737/MD80/320 fleets.
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 185
Likes: 0
From: In the State of Perpetual Confusion
The problem is that it's not quite the same going from a domestic turboprop to an international jet as it is going from a domestic turboprop to a domestic jet. The problem isn't the guys who with the right training should have no problem if they are reasonably competent. The problem is the amount of training that the company is willing to give them. There is absolutely no analysis of entry level skill sets when designing training curricula here. They simply look at what they are willing to pay for and impose those limits on the training department, whether it makes sense or not.
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 69
Likes: 0
From: dubai
I say increase the hours....I definately say for DEC, only recuit them if they are type rated on Ek aircraft or at the very least have experiance outside of there own backyard!! The reason I say increase the hours for FOs is because they have to fly with the incompetant DECs!
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 3,118
Likes: 140
From: overthere
777-200LR,
I would suggest about the same number as the CRJ/ERJ, 146, 737, DC9 etc etc drivers we have here at the moment. Do you really think these things are a stopper?
A new joiner now will get a command with aeroplane number 200ish, so I would think they will have a few years in which to work out how to avoid talking to Bombay on HF.
Don
I would suggest about the same number as the CRJ/ERJ, 146, 737, DC9 etc etc drivers we have here at the moment. Do you really think these things are a stopper?
A new joiner now will get a command with aeroplane number 200ish, so I would think they will have a few years in which to work out how to avoid talking to Bombay on HF.
Don
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 199
Likes: 0
From: neverland
Just curious should all pilots be happy for the guys who get a break? Let the compant worry about their training that is their JOB. P.S not sure but are we flying rocket ships?? Ans took me about 5 mins to figure out HF.
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 563
Likes: 0
From: Earth
We are happy for the guys to get a break, it's just the standard of people we sometimes get.
Some of the places we fly over and to are not for the faint hearted, at 0300 over certain parts of the world you need to have both pilots on their game should something go wrong
Some of the places we fly over and to are not for the faint hearted, at 0300 over certain parts of the world you need to have both pilots on their game should something go wrong
