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Joining Qatar Airways (QR) - all you need to know about it (threads merged)

Old 11th Jan 2019, 07:34
  #9721 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Doha, Qatar
Age: 49
Posts: 397
Originally Posted by FlyingOW View Post


My colleague had stated that FOs made $8-10K per month net (more if you consider ISP contribution) to which the next poster alluded to having to fly 110 hours a month to make. The reality is that an FO only needs to fly 50 hours to get an $8K paychek .FACT.

Keep that up for a year and include allowances and you have NETTED 100K on 50hrs a month avg. (600 for the year). With free accommodation, medical and a reasonable education allowance.

OW

PS. AFAIK FOs at Regionals make upto $60K year 1 in the US. That is pretty much industry standard. Take out state and federal and your 401K contributions and you have $4K a month. Maybe even less (depends on the state). That’s Less than half of what an FO takes home here.
60,000 Dollars...really that has went up! I made 35000 as a Captain based in Jfk with American Eagle in the late 90s. I have flown with first officers here in Qatar, that have noooo life apparently, share accommodation etc, obviously no girlfriend, but say that were putting 100,000 savings in the bank every year. Im a captain and have to borrow money from my mom about the 23rd of every month to buy groceries( but hey Im married)

Last edited by casablanca; 11th Jan 2019 at 07:42. Reason: additional comment
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Old 11th Jan 2019, 18:58
  #9722 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Islambad
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Originally Posted by casablanca View Post
Qr has been updating questions for tech exam but still LPJ is probably best for brushing up on knowledge and type of questions you will encounter
Hi Casablanca, I am type rated on A320 through with my Skype Interview, just want to know that Technical Exam is only from ATPL or type technical questions are also asked. Thanks in advance.
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Old 12th Jan 2019, 04:26
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Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Oxford
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No type specific questions asked. Only EASA ATPL questions.
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Old 12th Jan 2019, 18:34
  #9724 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Split
Posts: 32
How is general image of assessment? What is pass percentage? Is one month enough to prepare? Thank you!
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Old 13th Jan 2019, 01:31
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Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: moon
Posts: 83
look at CommutAir website ... 45K$ bonus plus salary ... and you stay at home ... no expensive sandpit anymore! Do your math!
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Old 13th Jan 2019, 08:12
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Doha
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Originally Posted by donpizmeov2 View Post
look at CommutAir website ... 45K$ bonus plus salary ... and you stay at home ... no expensive sandpit anymore! Do your math!
Originally Posted by donpizmeov2 View Post
in US an FO in regional is getting 115-120K$/y (bonuses etc) to fly 75h/m not 110h/m ... do your math, .
Originally Posted by donpizmeov2 View Post
Stay away from QR... they underpay their pilots ... as FO at regional you make more money than in QR! And that's a fact!
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Fact? Maths? Well from ComutAir website, your figures of 115-120K are for Capts and not for FOs. FOs get upto 74K according to the site, these figures include a sign on bonus (usually a one time payment, that’s what “sign on” means) of 45k and 22K respectively. Also included in those numbers is 4K for “hotels, parking and uniform”

I think it’s safe to say QR doesn’t pay their pilots less than FOs at regionals in the US. Au contraire, quite the opposite.

QED.

Last edited by FlyingOW; 13th Jan 2019 at 08:33.
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Old 13th Jan 2019, 11:24
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Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: moon
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Those number are for FO ... and yes you get upgraded CP probably within 6 months ... but you look happy in the sandpit! Enjoy killing 110h/m roster crossing +5 -8 timezones and getting worse with this QR interpretation of EASA rules, have fun spending tons of your saving just to keep up with the sky-rocketing and "uncontrolled" cost of living and have fun trying to understand the "not-available" culture! Probably because you do not have a better option. I am really sorry for you.
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Old 19th Jan 2019, 00:51
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Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: England
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You’re really angry. Fail the tech exam?

Last edited by tonker; 21st Jan 2019 at 01:35.
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Old 19th Jan 2019, 16:37
  #9729 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2018
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Originally Posted by donpizmeov2 View Post
Those number are for FO ... and yes you get upgraded CP probably within 6 months ... but you look happy in the sandpit! Enjoy killing 110h/m roster crossing +5 -8 timezones and getting worse with this QR interpretation of EASA rules, have fun spending tons of your saving just to keep up with the sky-rocketing and "uncontrolled" cost of living and have fun trying to understand the "not-available" culture! Probably because you do not have a better option. I am really sorry for you.
I have been working for many Airlines around the world and (luckily) I have never failed any assessment in Europe, Middle East or Asia. We do have options my friend.

Can you tell me where I can find this better option you are referring to?

The huge problem in aviation is that pilots ALWAYS complain about something. You don't get paid enough if you fly 50 hours and you fly too much if you do 90 hours.

Is working for Ryanair better?
Do you like waiting 15 years for your upgrade in Lufthansa?
Do you like working in China with your huge salary (if you don't get deductions for any silly reasons)?

I Don't know many airlines offering a good salary, paying for the accommodation, contributing to your pension fund, proving a $ 1.000.000 health insurance etc etc etc... Sure you work in exchange for that.

Is this place perfect? No, it's not but I am still waiting to find that perfection!
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Old 21st Jan 2019, 01:34
  #9730 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: England
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Do what I did. Get on a plane and go see for yourself. Meet as many pilots as you can, and weigh up the good and bad things. My interview is next week.

I flew with a bloke who complained about his time at Qatar, and wait for it.......”I didn’t like the heat, the accommodation, ex pats, long haul or the Arabs”

What do you honestly expect it to be like. He not once ventured out, used staff travel etc.
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Old 23rd Jan 2019, 23:11
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Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by tonker View Post
Do what I did. Get on a plane and go see for yourself. Meet as many pilots as you can, and weigh up the good and bad things. My interview is next week.

I flew with a bloke who complained about his time at Qatar, and wait for it.......”I didn’t like the heat, the accommodation, ex pats, long haul or the Arabs”

What do you honestly expect it to be like. He not once ventured out, used staff travel etc.
May I ask what position you are applying for?
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Old 24th Jan 2019, 09:52
  #9732 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Doha
Age: 8
Posts: 360
Those that are happy here don’t waste much time on PPRuNe publicising it. There are a lot here who are happy with either the job, the company, the country or all. In general those that are not happy tend to be negative people who wouldn’t know a good thing if it was handed to them on a plate and are not intelligent enough to simply resign and leave for that wonderful place where the grass is greener. Normally when anyone start to moan or complain to me, which is very rarely, I tell them very politely to hand their notice in and after 90 days [email protected] off as I don’t want to spend anytime here listening to their crap. I have at this time no intentions of leaving and have around 15 years to go. Not sure if in time I will think differently. If I could get a DEC back in the UK at my home base earning 3/4 what I earn now, I’d probably take it, but that job does not exist, so crack on.
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Old 31st Jan 2019, 18:09
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Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: England
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If you go for an interview with an electronic logbook, they not only want the last three pages in paper form for themselves, but they want the whole thing printed out, and they want every page stamped by your current and previous employers.

Yes every page. Remember to include all the landings in figures to.
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Old 2nd Feb 2019, 09:46
  #9734 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Milan
Posts: 15
DEC BOEING

Hi guys any news about DEC for Boeing fleet ?? Regards
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Old 2nd Feb 2019, 15:27
  #9735 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Mediterranean
Posts: 115
I know some guys who have a DOJ given for the 787 so things are moving
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Old 2nd Feb 2019, 16:22
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Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Milan
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Thanks, do you know when they did the assessment?? apu Inop
regards



Originally Posted by APU_inop View Post
I know some guys who have a DOJ given for the 787 so things are moving
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Old 2nd Feb 2019, 17:11
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Join Date: May 2016
Location: Mediterranean
Posts: 115
Not sure but it wasn't recently
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Old 2nd Feb 2019, 19:52
  #9738 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Above the clouds
Age: 33
Posts: 126
Anything specific to study for the skype interview or is it just basic HR questions and them trying to asses your motivations for joining QA?
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Old 3rd Feb 2019, 02:04
  #9739 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Doha, Qatar
Age: 49
Posts: 397
As always you want to make a good impression but the main purpose of the Skype interview is to conduct a very basic English assessment
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Old 5th Feb 2019, 05:44
  #9740 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Dark Side of the Moon
Posts: 7
Hello all, did my assesment for DEC airbus in July las year, been swimming in the holding pool ever since, today I received an email asking if I would be interested in a position with Amiri Flight, I couldn’t find anything recent on them, can anyone shed some light?
Is the pay the same? Are the benefits the same?
Does this mean I basically screwed up my assessment and I’m now being offered this as a consolation prize?

thanks in advance,

DV.
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