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Joining Qatar Airways (QR) - all you need to know about it (threads merged)

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Old 8th Jan 2019, 20:01
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Originally Posted by donpizmeov2 View Post
Stay away from QR, they are investing money in china and EU but they underpay their pilots ... as FO at regional you make more money than in QR! And that's a fact!
Please tell me at which regional airline an FO makes 8-10k usd take home a month with housing paid.
Why would investments in Europe and China be a reason for staying away from an airline?

What did I just read? I have to go out and take a walk to process this.
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Old 10th Jan 2019, 11:44
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I don't know in EU but in US an FO in regional is getting 115-120K$/y (bonuses etc) to fly 75h/m not 110h/m ... do your math, and you must be in company accommodation. And in addition to that you are in the Doha (not Dubai/AbuDhabi nor Bahrain) ... your family can be really miserable in the corner of the desert.
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Old 10th Jan 2019, 12:36
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Originally Posted by donpizmeov2 View Post
I don't know in EU but in US an FO in regional is getting 115-120K$/y (bonuses etc) to fly 75h/m not 110h/m ... do your math, and you must be in company accommodation. And in addition to that you are in the Doha (not Dubai/AbuDhabi nor Bahrain) ... your family can be really miserable in the corner of the desert.
mate your location is truly on the moon )
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Old 10th Jan 2019, 14:53
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Closer you could not even imagine! check 6
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Old 10th Jan 2019, 15:30
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Can you give a couple of examples of regional companies paying these amounts? I can't find them but I would like to apply
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Old 10th Jan 2019, 18:31
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Originally Posted by donpizmeov2 View Post
I don't know in EU but in US an FO in regional is getting 115-120K$/y (bonuses etc) to fly 75h/m not 110h/m ... do your math, and you must be in company accommodation. And in addition to that you are in the Doha (not Dubai/AbuDhabi nor Bahrain) ... your family can be really miserable in the corner of the desert.
Actually an FO only has to fly about 60 hours to make those numbers in year 1.

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Old 10th Jan 2019, 18:49
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Actually an FO only has to fly about 60 hours to make those numbers in year 1.

OW
Not in guan' mate ... Not only 60 hrs for this amount of money , but nice advertising anyway ...
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Old 10th Jan 2019, 19:25
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Originally Posted by APU_inop View Post
Can you give a couple of examples of regional companies paying these amounts? I can't find them but I would like to apply
go to airline pilot central ... regionals ... and check the best one for you ... but get out of the sandpit (especially quatar) if you are only there for the money ... there are better options at home!
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Old 10th Jan 2019, 21:52
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I still don't have the requirements to apply but was wondering if the 500 hours on 737NG requirement is a hard requirement? I am rated and qualified to fly both the Classic and NG but I only fly the Classic for now.
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Old 11th Jan 2019, 03:55
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Originally Posted by Python27 View Post
Not in guan' mate ... Not only 60 hrs for this amount of money , but nice advertising anyway ...
My colleague had stated that FOs made $8-10K per month net (more if you consider ISP contribution) to which the next poster alluded to having to fly 110 hours a month to make. The reality is that an FO only needs to fly 50 hours to get an $8K paychek .FACT.

Keep that up for a year and include allowances and you have NETTED 100K on 50hrs a month avg. (600 for the year). With free accommodation, medical and a reasonable education allowance.

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PS. AFAIK FOs at Regionals make upto $60K year 1 in the US. That is pretty much industry standard. Take out state and federal and your 401K contributions and you have $4K a month. Maybe even less (depends on the state). That’s Less than half of what an FO takes home here.

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Old 11th Jan 2019, 07:34
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Originally Posted by FlyingOW View Post


My colleague had stated that FOs made $8-10K per month net (more if you consider ISP contribution) to which the next poster alluded to having to fly 110 hours a month to make. The reality is that an FO only needs to fly 50 hours to get an $8K paychek .FACT.

Keep that up for a year and include allowances and you have NETTED 100K on 50hrs a month avg. (600 for the year). With free accommodation, medical and a reasonable education allowance.

OW

PS. AFAIK FOs at Regionals make upto $60K year 1 in the US. That is pretty much industry standard. Take out state and federal and your 401K contributions and you have $4K a month. Maybe even less (depends on the state). That’s Less than half of what an FO takes home here.
60,000 Dollars...really that has went up! I made 35000 as a Captain based in Jfk with American Eagle in the late 90s. I have flown with first officers here in Qatar, that have noooo life apparently, share accommodation etc, obviously no girlfriend, but say that were putting 100,000 savings in the bank every year. Im a captain and have to borrow money from my mom about the 23rd of every month to buy groceries( but hey Im married)

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Old 11th Jan 2019, 18:58
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Originally Posted by casablanca View Post
Qr has been updating questions for tech exam but still LPJ is probably best for brushing up on knowledge and type of questions you will encounter
Hi Casablanca, I am type rated on A320 through with my Skype Interview, just want to know that Technical Exam is only from ATPL or type technical questions are also asked. Thanks in advance.
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Old 12th Jan 2019, 04:26
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No type specific questions asked. Only EASA ATPL questions.
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Old 12th Jan 2019, 18:34
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How is general image of assessment? What is pass percentage? Is one month enough to prepare? Thank you!
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Old 13th Jan 2019, 01:31
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look at CommutAir website ... 45K$ bonus plus salary ... and you stay at home ... no expensive sandpit anymore! Do your math!
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Old 13th Jan 2019, 08:12
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Originally Posted by donpizmeov2 View Post
look at CommutAir website ... 45K$ bonus plus salary ... and you stay at home ... no expensive sandpit anymore! Do your math!
Originally Posted by donpizmeov2 View Post
in US an FO in regional is getting 115-120K$/y (bonuses etc) to fly 75h/m not 110h/m ... do your math, .
Originally Posted by donpizmeov2 View Post
Stay away from QR... they underpay their pilots ... as FO at regional you make more money than in QR! And that's a fact!
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Fact? Maths? Well from ComutAir website, your figures of 115-120K are for Capts and not for FOs. FOs get upto 74K according to the site, these figures include a sign on bonus (usually a one time payment, that’s what “sign on” means) of 45k and 22K respectively. Also included in those numbers is 4K for “hotels, parking and uniform”

I think it’s safe to say QR doesn’t pay their pilots less than FOs at regionals in the US. Au contraire, quite the opposite.

QED.

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Old 13th Jan 2019, 11:24
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Those number are for FO ... and yes you get upgraded CP probably within 6 months ... but you look happy in the sandpit! Enjoy killing 110h/m roster crossing +5 -8 timezones and getting worse with this QR interpretation of EASA rules, have fun spending tons of your saving just to keep up with the sky-rocketing and "uncontrolled" cost of living and have fun trying to understand the "not-available" culture! Probably because you do not have a better option. I am really sorry for you.
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