FAA/ICAO/JAA Conversion
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FAA/ICAO/JAA Conversion
Anyone know the easiest, least painful, and of course least expensive means of obtaining a JAA license if you have FAA and GCAA ATPL? The sand is starting to get too hot and the ball keeps moving.
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Hi , if you have the required hours , (i think it is 1500 hours multi crew), you have to take a Human Performance and Air Law exam. If you have these hours you are not required to do a formal course just the exams. Many schools in Europe offer short courses, eg. Bristol, Oxford. And then a sim check.
Hope this helps....good luck
Hope this helps....good luck
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Hi !
The JAA ATPL conversion depends on your previous experience level!
IF: Have an ICAO issued ATP and over 500-1500 hrs multi crew, multi engine experience, than you MIGHT be exempted from the course itself, but most likely will have to sit the exams, although all 14 of them, and then a skill test on the same type you have a rating on. ( So you have to find a sim, an examiner etc. for the skill test, most schools do not help you out with that...)
IF: ICAO ATP and over 1500 hrs, no need to sit the course, just do the exams, but the number is at the discretion of the training facility. (they've told me still all 14 exams....4000TT, 3300 B737)
AND IF: you are very experienced ( I think 6000TT with 500 PIC on Multi crew, multi engine, bla-bla), then you only need two or three exams to be done...
BUT! It seems to me that every case is different, you might want to get in touch with either the UK CAA, or an approved Ground school provider, to help you with your case, and to see what amount of exams/courses they want you to sit.
The above mentioned schools are all good, drop them an e-mail, and see what turns out of it !
If you're stuck send me a PM, I'll try to help out !
Good luck !
CJ
The JAA ATPL conversion depends on your previous experience level!
IF: Have an ICAO issued ATP and over 500-1500 hrs multi crew, multi engine experience, than you MIGHT be exempted from the course itself, but most likely will have to sit the exams, although all 14 of them, and then a skill test on the same type you have a rating on. ( So you have to find a sim, an examiner etc. for the skill test, most schools do not help you out with that...)
IF: ICAO ATP and over 1500 hrs, no need to sit the course, just do the exams, but the number is at the discretion of the training facility. (they've told me still all 14 exams....4000TT, 3300 B737)
AND IF: you are very experienced ( I think 6000TT with 500 PIC on Multi crew, multi engine, bla-bla), then you only need two or three exams to be done...
BUT! It seems to me that every case is different, you might want to get in touch with either the UK CAA, or an approved Ground school provider, to help you with your case, and to see what amount of exams/courses they want you to sit.
The above mentioned schools are all good, drop them an e-mail, and see what turns out of it !
If you're stuck send me a PM, I'll try to help out !
Good luck !
CJ
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For UK JAA Atpl
1. Send log books and licence to CAA for assesment and pay fee.
2. If you have more than 3000hrs on aircraft of more that 30 000KG
with at least 1500Hrs as PIC, all you have to write is Human Performance
and Airlaw.
3. Unless you have Aussie or Canadian radio licence you need to do a radio
licence!!!!!!!!!!
4. Do a Class 1 Medical at the CAA medical centre to revalidation standards
if you hold a foriegn Class 1
5. If you have greater than 500hrs on type you can do a flight test by a CAA
approved TRE that is observed by a CAA Staff Examiner.(This is the tricky
one too get together.)
6. If you have less than 500hrs on type you need to undergo and approved
type rating course with a TRTO
7. You will get A UK JAA Atpl which restricts you too UK registered aircraft
only. You may have success validating this licence with other EU States??
8. If you do not meet the above requirements or you want a full unrestricted
JAA Atpl you write all 14 exams. If you don't meet certain minimum
requirements you will have to undergo a ground school for the Exams and
also an MCC course if you don't have enough multi-crew hours
9. After all that and a fair amount of pounds you will have a JAA Atpl.
1. Send log books and licence to CAA for assesment and pay fee.
2. If you have more than 3000hrs on aircraft of more that 30 000KG
with at least 1500Hrs as PIC, all you have to write is Human Performance
and Airlaw.
3. Unless you have Aussie or Canadian radio licence you need to do a radio
licence!!!!!!!!!!
4. Do a Class 1 Medical at the CAA medical centre to revalidation standards
if you hold a foriegn Class 1
5. If you have greater than 500hrs on type you can do a flight test by a CAA
approved TRE that is observed by a CAA Staff Examiner.(This is the tricky
one too get together.)
6. If you have less than 500hrs on type you need to undergo and approved
type rating course with a TRTO
7. You will get A UK JAA Atpl which restricts you too UK registered aircraft
only. You may have success validating this licence with other EU States??
8. If you do not meet the above requirements or you want a full unrestricted
JAA Atpl you write all 14 exams. If you don't meet certain minimum
requirements you will have to undergo a ground school for the Exams and
also an MCC course if you don't have enough multi-crew hours
9. After all that and a fair amount of pounds you will have a JAA Atpl.
