Is Ek This Bad?
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Guys, 4HP got this discussion closed in another thread. Please don't start here. Exchange phonenumbers and start texting eachother, looks like a good idea... (at least you master that spelling)
4HP, if these people go on, couldn't you just ban them? Their a nuisance..
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4HP, if these people go on, couldn't you just ban them? Their a nuisance..
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Hi Check Six.
Going back some 5 odd years, I asked you quite a few questions above joining EK and how life was in Dubai. After spending some years in Dubai and EK (we may even have shared the same flight deck) I must thank you for a sober and open minded view in your ansewers. Your description of the place and the job is just and accurate.
Havn`t been on this forum for years, not a lot has change, but I am supprised that you still are living in Dubai and making a living of Emirates( or may be it is the other way around)!
You hopefulls out their can listen to this gentleman and expect to get an honnest opinion.
All the best.
Going back some 5 odd years, I asked you quite a few questions above joining EK and how life was in Dubai. After spending some years in Dubai and EK (we may even have shared the same flight deck) I must thank you for a sober and open minded view in your ansewers. Your description of the place and the job is just and accurate.
Havn`t been on this forum for years, not a lot has change, but I am supprised that you still are living in Dubai and making a living of Emirates( or may be it is the other way around)!
You hopefulls out their can listen to this gentleman and expect to get an honnest opinion.
All the best.
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Hello JD. You are welcome anytime my friend.
Yes, still here. I have a few applications in elsewhere. Just trying to get back home and live in a "normal'' place.
Our eldest child has 18 more months of school to go. And then, hopefully I can quitely back my bags and leave! Let's see what plans my family have in store for me
Thanks for the kind words, I appreciate it! If you are a sidestick fiddler like me? We probably have flown together.
All The Best
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Yes, still here. I have a few applications in elsewhere. Just trying to get back home and live in a "normal'' place.
Our eldest child has 18 more months of school to go. And then, hopefully I can quitely back my bags and leave! Let's see what plans my family have in store for me Thanks for the kind words, I appreciate it! If you are a sidestick fiddler like me? We probably have flown together.
All The Best
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I sent the EK online application two weeks ago and they called this morning, unfortunately i was out of town, i hope i havenīt lost my chance. At this time i have 9 years as F/O in my company and at least another 6 to upgrade, i think EK will be a good move
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deteita,
Don't worry - you haven't lost your chance. They'll keep calling and calling until they get hold of you. Just think of it as practice for your later dealings with crew scheduling.
Don't worry - you haven't lost your chance. They'll keep calling and calling until they get hold of you. Just think of it as practice for your later dealings with crew scheduling.
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i have 9 years as F/O in my company and at least another 6 to upgrade, i think EK will be a good move
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thanks all of you for reply... Do you think you can live a decent way with EK F/O salary if you have family(wife and two 1 year old girls). I have read that supermarket and entertainment are very expensive...Do you think EK is an airline to stay until retirement(at 60).
to both.
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Absolutely Not! With current pay and conditions you will find yourself wondering why you came here in the first place? That of course depends on how much you are making now and what your cost of living is?
But here in Dubai on FO salary with two kids? Not good at all!
The salary needs some serious injections, preferably with anabolic steroids! And soon!
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But here in Dubai on FO salary with two kids? Not good at all!
The salary needs some serious injections, preferably with anabolic steroids! And soon!
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Salary is an issue, and with the demise of the US$, getting more serious daily depending on your home currency but we need a life. Rostering and FTLs need to be fixed properly with a realistic view to the long term. The fudging and flexing of regulations and the average monthly hours make this kind of life unsustainable no matter how much you're paid.
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is ek really that bad?
well, let managers and numbers speak:
emergency meeting with the talking horse and tcas, because the total backlog of acceptable pilots in the pipeline is between (two sources) 22 and 40!!
it seems that pilots in other operators are a little more informed and less foolish than ek always presumes:
quote from the cold weather brief : "Don’t be fooled by procedures at other operators."
emergency meeting with the talking horse and tcas, because the total backlog of acceptable pilots in the pipeline is between (two sources) 22 and 40!!
it seems that pilots in other operators are a little more informed and less foolish than ek always presumes:
quote from the cold weather brief : "Don’t be fooled by procedures at other operators."
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I would have liked to join all of you at EK but i staying at home.. It seems too risky leave my job for just a promise of being upgraded to heavy jet captain in less than 5 years...BTW thanks all of you for reply
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I know of 4 pilots that were off for more than 1 year on full pay. know of one dependant whose care bill far exceeded 300000( company paid ). You get tried of hearing guys complain all the time , its not the best job out there but its ok. For those who cant shut up just leave you would be doing us all a big favour.
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ERJ145Flyer...
How can you agree with fatbus? I mean, if you're not working here at EK, how can you have a valid opinion about how things work here?
Ok, your colleagues might be better paid then you are. Ever wondered how that's possible? Maybe they have a lot more experience then you? Maybe they made a right choice early in their career? Anyhow, you shouldn't complain about how much other people earn, you should strive to get the same.
And what makes you more qualified then they are? If you were, you would probably in their seat, earning their money.
After this post I have an opinion about you (which might be wrong): You look like a frustrated regional jet flyer, probably bounced of the mainline after Sept 11. You will do anything to fly the big nice shiny jets, even bend over and take it hard (no vaseline provided). Because of your frustration, you can't see the struggle people here at EK have, and thus you can not sympathise with us.
I really hope you will get a job out here as a F/O. You might even prove to me what you're really worth should we end up in a typhoon. middle of the night in Hyderabad, or in a thunderstorm around Addis... But most of all, I wish you won't change your name here on pprune after you join EK (should you have the chance..) It's always funny to see how the wannabees change their mind after about a year in Fantasyland.. And, yes, me too, I'm guilty of that!!
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How can you agree with fatbus? I mean, if you're not working here at EK, how can you have a valid opinion about how things work here?
...they get paid 3 times more than me and you know what I am even more qualified then them for the job they have...
And what makes you more qualified then they are? If you were, you would probably in their seat, earning their money.
After this post I have an opinion about you (which might be wrong): You look like a frustrated regional jet flyer, probably bounced of the mainline after Sept 11. You will do anything to fly the big nice shiny jets, even bend over and take it hard (no vaseline provided). Because of your frustration, you can't see the struggle people here at EK have, and thus you can not sympathise with us.
I really hope you will get a job out here as a F/O. You might even prove to me what you're really worth should we end up in a typhoon. middle of the night in Hyderabad, or in a thunderstorm around Addis... But most of all, I wish you won't change your name here on pprune after you join EK (should you have the chance..) It's always funny to see how the wannabees change their mind after about a year in Fantasyland.. And, yes, me too, I'm guilty of that!!
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ERJ145Flyer...
How can you agree with fatbus? I mean, if you're not working here at EK, how can you have a valid opinion about how things work here?
Ok, your colleagues might be better paid then you are. Ever wondered how that's possible? Maybe they have a lot more experience then you? Maybe they made a right choice early in their career? Anyhow, you shouldn't complain about how much other people earn, you should strive to get the same.
And what makes you more qualified then they are? If you were, you would probably in their seat, earning their money.
After this post I have an opinion about you (which might be wrong): You look like a frustrated regional jet flyer, probably bounced of the mainline after Sept 11. You will do anything to fly the big nice shiny jets, even bend over and take it hard (no vaseline provided). Because of your frustration, you can't see the struggle people here at EK have, and thus you can not sympathise with us.
I really hope you will get a job out here as a F/O. You might even prove to me what you're really worth should we end up in a typhoon. middle of the night in Hyderabad, or in a thunderstorm around Addis... But most of all, I wish you won't change your name here on pprune after you join EK (should you have the chance..) It's always funny to see how the wannabees change their mind after about a year in Fantasyland.. And, yes, me too, I'm guilty of that!!
MR8
How can you agree with fatbus? I mean, if you're not working here at EK, how can you have a valid opinion about how things work here?
Ok, your colleagues might be better paid then you are. Ever wondered how that's possible? Maybe they have a lot more experience then you? Maybe they made a right choice early in their career? Anyhow, you shouldn't complain about how much other people earn, you should strive to get the same.
And what makes you more qualified then they are? If you were, you would probably in their seat, earning their money.
After this post I have an opinion about you (which might be wrong): You look like a frustrated regional jet flyer, probably bounced of the mainline after Sept 11. You will do anything to fly the big nice shiny jets, even bend over and take it hard (no vaseline provided). Because of your frustration, you can't see the struggle people here at EK have, and thus you can not sympathise with us.
I really hope you will get a job out here as a F/O. You might even prove to me what you're really worth should we end up in a typhoon. middle of the night in Hyderabad, or in a thunderstorm around Addis... But most of all, I wish you won't change your name here on pprune after you join EK (should you have the chance..) It's always funny to see how the wannabees change their mind after about a year in Fantasyland.. And, yes, me too, I'm guilty of that!!
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No I do not work at Emirates, but have been asked twice in the last two months to attend a "selection programme". No where is utopia and the EK F/Os do have some very valid concerns, especially those who have had their upgrades delayed by the DEC folks. I guess going from a Jungle Jet to a triple 7 would seem like utopia. After about 6 months it is just an airplane.
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I don't have a dog in this fight, however I do have an observation. If you know many pilots at Emirates who love it there, why don't you ask your questions of them, instead of getting into a pissing contest on this public forum.
No I do not work at Emirates, but have been asked twice in the last two months to attend a "selection programme". No where is utopia and the EK F/Os do have some very valid concerns, especially those who have had their upgrades delayed by the DEC folks. I guess going from a Jungle Jet to a triple 7 would seem like utopia. After about 6 months it is just an airplane.
No I do not work at Emirates, but have been asked twice in the last two months to attend a "selection programme". No where is utopia and the EK F/Os do have some very valid concerns, especially those who have had their upgrades delayed by the DEC folks. I guess going from a Jungle Jet to a triple 7 would seem like utopia. After about 6 months it is just an airplane.