Qr To America And Australia??
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Maybe the day they will have a real Secured Airport, this may be a good start...
Even the attempt for a code Share With Lufhtansa for flight to US has failed..
May be wrong but i think Etihad is starting flight to USA in november....
Even the attempt for a code Share With Lufhtansa for flight to US has failed..
May be wrong but i think Etihad is starting flight to USA in november....
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What do you mean? What are the issues behind Qatar Airways not being granted rights to operate to the USA?
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well according an official from the security, Qr or Qatar failed already twice in the past the FAA secutiy audit regarding the airport!
The problem is that unfortunatly and contrary to a lot of thing, Qatar can not BUY the security to the FAA,itīs not working like that, excpecially after the 11/09....
The problem is that unfortunatly and contrary to a lot of thing, Qatar can not BUY the security to the FAA,itīs not working like that, excpecially after the 11/09....
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Sorry, but do you mean the FAA had issues with Doha Airport's or Qatar's airport security (regarding fences, precautions that people with bombs and guns don't get on aircraft) or is this an issue with the FAA's International Aviation Safety Assessments (IASA) Program, whereas the FAA has determined that Qatar does not comply with ICAO standards and is in Category 2?
The explanation follows:
From the FAA's website, it does not show a rating for Qatar at all.
International Assessments
The explanation follows:
IASA Results Definitions
The FAA has established two ratings for the status of countries at the time of the assessment: does comply with ICAO standards, and does not comply with ICAO standards.
They are defined as follows:
Category 1, Does Comply with ICAO Standards: A country's civil aviation authority has been assessed by FAA inspectors and has been found to license and oversee air carriers in accordance with ICAO aviation safety standards.
Category 2, Does Not Comply with ICAO Standards: The Federal Aviation Administration assessed this country's civil aviation authority (CAA) and determined that it does not provide safety oversight of its air carrier operators in accordance with the minimum safety oversight standards established by the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO).
This rating is applied if one or more of the following deficiencies are identified:
1) the country lacks laws or regulations necessary to support the certification and oversight of air carriers in accordance with minimum international standards;
2) the CAA lacks the technical expertise, resources, and organization to license or oversee air carrier operations;
3) the CAA does not have adequately trained and qualified technical personnel;
4) the CAA does not provide adequate inspector guidance to ensure enforcement of, and compliance with, minimum international standards;
AND
5) the CAA has insufficient documentation and records of certification and inadequate continuing oversight and surveillance of air carrier operations.
This category consists of two groups of countries.
One group are countries that have air carriers with existing operations to the United States at the time of the assessment. While in Category 2 status, carriers from these countries will be permitted to continue operations at current levels under heightened FAA surveillance. Expansion or changes in services to the United States by such carriers are not permitted while in category 2, although new services will be permitted if operated using aircraft wet-leased from a duly authorized and properly supervised U.S. carrier or a foreign air carrier from a category 1 country that is authorized to serve the United States using its own aircraft.
The second group are countries that do not have air carriers with existing operations to the United States at the time of the assessment. Carriers from these countries will not be permitted to commence service to the United States while in Category 2 status, although they may conduct services if operated using aircraft wet-leased from a duly authorized and properly supervised U.S. carrier or a foreign air carrier from a Category 1 country that is authorized to serve the United States with its own aircraft.
No other difference is made between these two groups of countries while in a category 2 status.
Note For those countries not serving the U.S. at the time of the assessment, an asterisk "*" will be added to their Category 2 determination.
The FAA has established two ratings for the status of countries at the time of the assessment: does comply with ICAO standards, and does not comply with ICAO standards.
They are defined as follows:
Category 1, Does Comply with ICAO Standards: A country's civil aviation authority has been assessed by FAA inspectors and has been found to license and oversee air carriers in accordance with ICAO aviation safety standards.
Category 2, Does Not Comply with ICAO Standards: The Federal Aviation Administration assessed this country's civil aviation authority (CAA) and determined that it does not provide safety oversight of its air carrier operators in accordance with the minimum safety oversight standards established by the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO).
This rating is applied if one or more of the following deficiencies are identified:
1) the country lacks laws or regulations necessary to support the certification and oversight of air carriers in accordance with minimum international standards;
2) the CAA lacks the technical expertise, resources, and organization to license or oversee air carrier operations;
3) the CAA does not have adequately trained and qualified technical personnel;
4) the CAA does not provide adequate inspector guidance to ensure enforcement of, and compliance with, minimum international standards;
AND
5) the CAA has insufficient documentation and records of certification and inadequate continuing oversight and surveillance of air carrier operations.
This category consists of two groups of countries.
One group are countries that have air carriers with existing operations to the United States at the time of the assessment. While in Category 2 status, carriers from these countries will be permitted to continue operations at current levels under heightened FAA surveillance. Expansion or changes in services to the United States by such carriers are not permitted while in category 2, although new services will be permitted if operated using aircraft wet-leased from a duly authorized and properly supervised U.S. carrier or a foreign air carrier from a category 1 country that is authorized to serve the United States using its own aircraft.
The second group are countries that do not have air carriers with existing operations to the United States at the time of the assessment. Carriers from these countries will not be permitted to commence service to the United States while in Category 2 status, although they may conduct services if operated using aircraft wet-leased from a duly authorized and properly supervised U.S. carrier or a foreign air carrier from a Category 1 country that is authorized to serve the United States with its own aircraft.
No other difference is made between these two groups of countries while in a category 2 status.
Note For those countries not serving the U.S. at the time of the assessment, an asterisk "*" will be added to their Category 2 determination.
International Assessments
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Why.who,how they failed..donīt known..i just have been told (it was 1 year ago) that they failed...
Maybe i can give you an example: A ground staff in London once told me that an FAA inspector travelling from doha To America via London to check the security in doha airport, was caught (Unfortunatly) in london and NOT in Doha travelling with a knife while transitting in Heathrow...
Not very good....
Maybe i can give you an example: A ground staff in London once told me that an FAA inspector travelling from doha To America via London to check the security in doha airport, was caught (Unfortunatly) in london and NOT in Doha travelling with a knife while transitting in Heathrow...
Not very good....
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Article from the latest Flight international:
"The airline (QR) has just introduced the 340-600,wich will initially serve London but is earmarked for direct services to the USA,with flight to the US east coast expected to begin early next year once Qatar's CAA has received US federal aviation administration safety oversight approval.
Australia is also on the short-term planner,but only when the airline can obtain the desired level of frequencies."
Sooo...letīs say following those two statement..that QR is not Allowed to fly to US..(instead of not intend to)this is probably more realistic...Isnīit?
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If that is what Al Baker said, it sounds to me like a child's pout. They are not giving it to him, so he insists he never wanted it in the first place.
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Qatari Update
Various Aviation Press are reporting that QR has confirmed that it has doubled the size of it's order for Boeing 777-300ER equipment, from an initial order for 20 planes to 40. AAB is quoted as saying that this quantity will be needed to service the airline's ambitious expansion plans.
He also stated that the Company (which was an all-Boeing operator up to 1997) is keen to have a mix of Boeings and Airbus in the fleet. The A350 order is also still live, he says.
The article also makes reference to various new routes being opened up during 2007: Dar es Salam (already publicly announced), Lagos (Nigeria), Bucharest (Romania), Sao Paolo (Brazil), Washington Dulles (USA).
There is also increasing speculation that both QR and EK are reviewing their orders for the A380, with many expecting that QR will cancel their order and EK will significantly reduce the size of their order (which currently stands at 45 planes).
Good luck you guys.......................
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This is all very well....
Only one thing AAB and his team seem to be forgetting....CREWS!!!!
The whole world is scrambling for pilots with some sort of experience with the Far East gearing up for a massive boom in aviation.
In the middle east, not exactly the nicest place to live, all companies are running very short on crews. Money is not good anymore, the area is getting overcrowded, cost of living is on a constant rise and the people can be very unwelcoming.
The only career airline in the region, EK, is facing huge crewing issues. The others like QR and EY are just barely staying afloat. The lack of job security, pension shemes, housing plans etc ere taking their toll now.
I know AAB still claims that a lot of people want to join QR. Well, he is either informed very badly by his staff or he is just believing in pink elephants because no pilot with experience is willing to come our way. The few individuals that are seeping in these days are way below standard pilots. Results are a rise in failures in the early stages of training....People fail in the sim training constantly!!!!!
So who is going to fly an aditional 40 airplanes???
Mr AAB, sort out what you have created first! Bring in a descent sollution for the housing problem! You where so good at copying everything EK is doing so copy their housing plans as well! And not the way we did before, no below standard appartments in Musheirib or dirty houses in the industrial area! And waiting untill after the hated Asian games will not help...it will be far too late than!
Maybe copying their transportation plan would be a good idea as well, looking at the mess that has been created in Doha with al the construction work.
Bring in that Provident fund you have been promising us for years now. Take care of the families of your crews and the, maybe only than, you will be able to man some of your planes with descent crews.
we all know QR had a couple of close calls lately...very close calls. We are running on the edge of everything, including pilot training and recruitment. If this continues we will crash and burn....
Only one thing AAB and his team seem to be forgetting....CREWS!!!!
The whole world is scrambling for pilots with some sort of experience with the Far East gearing up for a massive boom in aviation.
In the middle east, not exactly the nicest place to live, all companies are running very short on crews. Money is not good anymore, the area is getting overcrowded, cost of living is on a constant rise and the people can be very unwelcoming.
The only career airline in the region, EK, is facing huge crewing issues. The others like QR and EY are just barely staying afloat. The lack of job security, pension shemes, housing plans etc ere taking their toll now.
I know AAB still claims that a lot of people want to join QR. Well, he is either informed very badly by his staff or he is just believing in pink elephants because no pilot with experience is willing to come our way. The few individuals that are seeping in these days are way below standard pilots. Results are a rise in failures in the early stages of training....People fail in the sim training constantly!!!!!
So who is going to fly an aditional 40 airplanes???
Mr AAB, sort out what you have created first! Bring in a descent sollution for the housing problem! You where so good at copying everything EK is doing so copy their housing plans as well! And not the way we did before, no below standard appartments in Musheirib or dirty houses in the industrial area! And waiting untill after the hated Asian games will not help...it will be far too late than!
Maybe copying their transportation plan would be a good idea as well, looking at the mess that has been created in Doha with al the construction work.
Bring in that Provident fund you have been promising us for years now. Take care of the families of your crews and the, maybe only than, you will be able to man some of your planes with descent crews.
we all know QR had a couple of close calls lately...very close calls. We are running on the edge of everything, including pilot training and recruitment. If this continues we will crash and burn....
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With all that being said, there's one thing to be added though the rostering. Gosh those guys can drive one crazy. Guys surely all of you will read this thread: Please put a little note on the roster in case you put one for a week on TBN, explaining why? I'm sure we all can understand the operational needs if there are any. Don't forget that behind a staff number is person with personal life. Another interesting fact to be mentioned is that airlines do start to hire experienced F/o with more than 5000 hours as DEC e.g. virgin Nigeria, not the safest place to be but ......
and one of the British carrier Fly-be or so. That might be a beginning of tough times. Well the times start to be very interesting.
Let's see where we gonna end up.
and one of the British carrier Fly-be or so. That might be a beginning of tough times. Well the times start to be very interesting.
Let's see where we gonna end up.
