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Old 14th May 2006, 02:34
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Just wanted all to know that I think the mea culpa done by 4HP was the right thing. Notice, I did not even comment on the conduct of the individual in question. Unethical behavior by one party does not, in my opinion, constitute a reason for someone else to make an unethical mistake. 4HP, I truely thank you the work you are doing. A daunting task, but fun for you.

If anybody gives a rat's a** I will get intel back from the recruiting session in ATL next week.
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The idea of BM as a TRI is bugging me.

But in the interests of balanced comment, what is he allegedly guilty of?

Certainly he doesn't hold back in coming forward, and his interview with the female WSJ journalist was a perfect opportunity for him to tell the world how far he'd come. The article would have been spun up by the reporter leading to what we took offence to.
Guilty of boastfullness, nothing more really.

As Tartan guy he allegedly spent several months pretending to be an EK F/O, but so have a number of other EK DECs and they will continue to do so. It seems to be endemic of the breed.
Guilty conscience I think.

When the WSJ article started to work against him his perfect world started to implode. It appears that he became incapable of rational thought as the Tartan guy posts were deluded in the extreme.
So, guilty of delusion.

Collectively an unattractive picture, separately perhaps not unusual responses to his situation, but in all cases taken to extremes.

His best course of action would be to quietly look for another job (in another industry). I doubt he will do that, so I will ask his colleagues (you know who you are) to take him aside and encourage him to discontinue his TRI training and keep well away from any training or management positions. And reporters.

Oh, and 4hp has my vote of confidence too. And if he thinks it's time to close this thread, I would agree with him.
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Old 14th May 2006, 09:38
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Go figure...now everybody want to an Emirates FO..even DECs
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Old 14th May 2006, 10:57
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In my short 3 years on Pprune, this has got to be the most entertaining thread I've ever read. Keep it up guys. And to 4 HP, thanks for working in the 'Mod Squad'. I think you do a great job

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Old 15th May 2006, 07:02
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Yep, keep it here, needs to be kept at the top.
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Old 15th May 2006, 09:30
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Great job 4hp


wiating for IXNAT's intel......


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Old 16th May 2006, 02:30
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Originally Posted by Tail Rota
Great job 4hp
Originally Posted by Tail Rota


wiating for IXNAT's intel......


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Will be more than happy to report. So far know of five retired DAL guys that have interviewed, and around 10 more doing "sim interviews in Atlanta. Four of the five will most likely be joining, but all five were offered jobs, three have 777 time and all int'l captains before retirement. More intel to come.

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Old 2nd Jun 2006, 10:15
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Is it true that Brian has applied or is in the process of trying for the Chief Pilots Airbus job or something similiar? Quite honestly I dont give a rats a...e who fills those posts any longer as they seem to be a breed of their own and only out to look after themselves. I dont even know what our present chief looks like! (maybe thats a good sign)
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Old 2nd Jun 2006, 15:34
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Can a casual observer ask a question about this situation ? I've followed this BM thing because it's interesting.

I've seen repeated references to resenting his effort in move into management. Why would anyone care if he did ? Personally, I never understood the desire to work in the office but figured that every guy who did would just be vacating a schedule I might want. Better them than me.

Perhaps it's because he's not been there long so won't have the experience of the pilots he'd be managing ? I didn't think it was unusual to be managed by people with less line experience than the pilots they managed. It was certainly the case where I worked.

Just curious.
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Old 2nd Jun 2006, 16:19
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Wink

i think its because he is as popular as a pork pie at the local shisa club..
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Old 2nd Jun 2006, 20:51
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Originally Posted by shawarma
i think its because he is as popular as a pork pie at the local shisa club..
...I see...
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Old 2nd Jun 2006, 21:10
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Originally Posted by bafanguy
I've seen repeated references to resenting his effort in move into management. Why would anyone care if he did ?
Perhaps because it is so often the case that the guys who into mangement the MOST BADLY are usually the ones who are least suitable for the job, from the point of view of those they will be "managing"...

Exception: A certain DCP.
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Old 4th Jun 2006, 11:31
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Mrs Murray's little boy Brian should not be anywhere near a chief pilot position because he has demonstrated that he doesn't have the integrity or moral authority.

It's quite simple.
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Old 4th Jun 2006, 12:46
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don't know lads, great deal for Emirates. 2 possibly 3 CP for the price of 1. Though hard to get rid of them all if you have to dismiss him/them . End of service benefit could get pricey. If we all used the BM policy the crewing issues would be solved!
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Old 10th Jun 2006, 13:56
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Hey, where's Brian gone?
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Old 10th Jun 2006, 13:59
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sucking up to the managment, what else?
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