Dubai: "The City that Cares"
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I agree with those who are proud to be liberal and express their opinions in a so called democratic country. I find it a bit contrasting that the government body is able to block sites such as youtube, skype and myspace as their contents are immoral. However i can get my pick of the best prostitutes in Bur dubai or Deira or I can go to the cinema and watch movies that are so loaded with nudity they should be rated X, or why not drive to Um AlQwain and get a car load of alcohol and invite my shaded CID friends.....Why not look into the smaller things first?.
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Duabi, the City that cares?
From the BBC News website...
A Pakistani laments Dubai
BBC Urdu service's Masud Alam returns to live in Pakistan after 15 years abroad. A holiday on the way gives food for thought.
Departing London was easier than I imagined. Partly because I was too groggy leaving home at 6.30 am to entertain any kind of emotions. And also, since friends, acquaintances and near-strangers had said their farewells with such fervour and persistence, staying back any longer was out of the question.
At the entrance to Gatwick airport, there was nothing and no one to look back on except the taxi driver who dropped us there, and nothing to look forward to except the clichéd promise of airline hospitality and the vague hope of finding a couch in the departure lounge to catch a wink.
Wife counted the luggage pieces every 10 steps or so, each time asking me to check if I still had the passports and tickets in the maroon wallet I was holding in my left hand.
Kids, too, walked in a dazed state and followed her various instructions without complaining, which was remarkable because they are neither used to listening - owing to the earpieces filling their young heads with pop music nearly all the time - nor complying with parental advice without a moan.
Hideous and expensive
I had obviously over-estimated the tantrums of the daughter, the apparent introspective state of the son and the increasingly unstable mood of the wife during the last few weeks in London. Otherwise I would not have booked a short holiday in Dubai on our way to Islamabad.
It was meant to cheer us up and to ease our descent back into the womb of the motherland. It turned out to be anything but....
I have lived in Dubai before but now it seems like it was ages ago. Then, it used to be a small, clean, quiet and prosperous place. It is now as hideous, noisy, crowded and obscenely expensive as so many other cities. Dubai has always wanted to be something different from what it is.
It metamorphosed from a tiny fishing village to a modern city, then a shoppers' paradise, a playground for the rich, a tourist's haven and a lot more in just over half a century.
But in the process, the place is beginning to look more like a huge exhibition of assorted real estate development than a place to live and grow in. Dubai was under construction 15 ago. It is even more so now. The city's skyline is made up of cranes. Hundreds, possibly thousands of these monster machines are working day and night every which way you look.
'Quality Expatriates'
And for every crane there is a brigade of trucks, earthmoving equipment and mobile electricity generators, clogging up the already crowded streets.
There is an excellent network of roads and bridges, but the fancy cars capable of doing 300km an hour can merely crawl at 3km an hour for most of the day. The traffic issue is so bad it has not avoided the notice of the authorities. Dubai is now building a network of underground railways which may eventually ease the congestion on the roads.
But for the moment it has meant more disruptions and detours, resulting in nightmarish delays to commuters.
One aspect that hasn't changed in all these years is Dubai's fixation on 'quality expatriates' - a euphemism for White Europeans, or the rich and famous, or, in particular, the rich and famous White Europeans.
I used to work for a newspaper here that paid different salaries to employees of similar qualifications and work experience, based on their ethnic origin. Whites topped the list, followed by Arabs, Indians and Pakistanis, the Filipinos, the Bangladeshis...
This bias seems to be more institutionalised now.
Visa restrictions continue to be relaxed for westerners and keep getting tougher for the nationals of the Third World.
'Apartheid'
All the new urban developments are aimed at White executives (there's hardly any other kind of Whites here) and moneyed Arabs.
The Asians, who make up the entire labour force that builds these fancy structures, are still the worst-paid workers, forced to live in out-of-town labour camps, away from their loved ones for years at a stretch because they cannot afford to travel back home or bring their families to live in Dubai.
A recent newspaper survey found that the labourers' pay and benefits packages have not been revised in more than a decade whereas the cost of living has doubled or trebled in sectors like housing, healthcare and utilities. The middle income group is doing only slightly better.
The city is generous enough to allow property ownership rights (on leasehold) to people with money, but chooses not to notice the white collar workers who are being evicted from low-cost public sector housing estates to make room for more upmarket developments. They are also being squeezed out of the rental market in the private sector faster than they can send their families back to their home countries.
It is probably just me, but I found it dispiriting to be holidaying in a place where the people who feed, drive, and generally look after me don't even earn enough to maintain their dignity as a human being. But apparently they get enough dirhams to feed their families back home, and that is what makes them go on living a life of exploitation, servitude, despair and hope.
I would rather holiday in South Africa. I hear apartheid is a thing of the past there.
A Pakistani laments Dubai
BBC Urdu service's Masud Alam returns to live in Pakistan after 15 years abroad. A holiday on the way gives food for thought.
Departing London was easier than I imagined. Partly because I was too groggy leaving home at 6.30 am to entertain any kind of emotions. And also, since friends, acquaintances and near-strangers had said their farewells with such fervour and persistence, staying back any longer was out of the question.
At the entrance to Gatwick airport, there was nothing and no one to look back on except the taxi driver who dropped us there, and nothing to look forward to except the clichéd promise of airline hospitality and the vague hope of finding a couch in the departure lounge to catch a wink.
Wife counted the luggage pieces every 10 steps or so, each time asking me to check if I still had the passports and tickets in the maroon wallet I was holding in my left hand.
Kids, too, walked in a dazed state and followed her various instructions without complaining, which was remarkable because they are neither used to listening - owing to the earpieces filling their young heads with pop music nearly all the time - nor complying with parental advice without a moan.
Hideous and expensive
I had obviously over-estimated the tantrums of the daughter, the apparent introspective state of the son and the increasingly unstable mood of the wife during the last few weeks in London. Otherwise I would not have booked a short holiday in Dubai on our way to Islamabad.
It was meant to cheer us up and to ease our descent back into the womb of the motherland. It turned out to be anything but....
I have lived in Dubai before but now it seems like it was ages ago. Then, it used to be a small, clean, quiet and prosperous place. It is now as hideous, noisy, crowded and obscenely expensive as so many other cities. Dubai has always wanted to be something different from what it is.
It metamorphosed from a tiny fishing village to a modern city, then a shoppers' paradise, a playground for the rich, a tourist's haven and a lot more in just over half a century.
But in the process, the place is beginning to look more like a huge exhibition of assorted real estate development than a place to live and grow in. Dubai was under construction 15 ago. It is even more so now. The city's skyline is made up of cranes. Hundreds, possibly thousands of these monster machines are working day and night every which way you look.
'Quality Expatriates'
And for every crane there is a brigade of trucks, earthmoving equipment and mobile electricity generators, clogging up the already crowded streets.
There is an excellent network of roads and bridges, but the fancy cars capable of doing 300km an hour can merely crawl at 3km an hour for most of the day. The traffic issue is so bad it has not avoided the notice of the authorities. Dubai is now building a network of underground railways which may eventually ease the congestion on the roads.
But for the moment it has meant more disruptions and detours, resulting in nightmarish delays to commuters.
One aspect that hasn't changed in all these years is Dubai's fixation on 'quality expatriates' - a euphemism for White Europeans, or the rich and famous, or, in particular, the rich and famous White Europeans.
I used to work for a newspaper here that paid different salaries to employees of similar qualifications and work experience, based on their ethnic origin. Whites topped the list, followed by Arabs, Indians and Pakistanis, the Filipinos, the Bangladeshis...
This bias seems to be more institutionalised now.
Visa restrictions continue to be relaxed for westerners and keep getting tougher for the nationals of the Third World.
'Apartheid'
All the new urban developments are aimed at White executives (there's hardly any other kind of Whites here) and moneyed Arabs.
The Asians, who make up the entire labour force that builds these fancy structures, are still the worst-paid workers, forced to live in out-of-town labour camps, away from their loved ones for years at a stretch because they cannot afford to travel back home or bring their families to live in Dubai.
A recent newspaper survey found that the labourers' pay and benefits packages have not been revised in more than a decade whereas the cost of living has doubled or trebled in sectors like housing, healthcare and utilities. The middle income group is doing only slightly better.
The city is generous enough to allow property ownership rights (on leasehold) to people with money, but chooses not to notice the white collar workers who are being evicted from low-cost public sector housing estates to make room for more upmarket developments. They are also being squeezed out of the rental market in the private sector faster than they can send their families back to their home countries.
It is probably just me, but I found it dispiriting to be holidaying in a place where the people who feed, drive, and generally look after me don't even earn enough to maintain their dignity as a human being. But apparently they get enough dirhams to feed their families back home, and that is what makes them go on living a life of exploitation, servitude, despair and hope.
I would rather holiday in South Africa. I hear apartheid is a thing of the past there.
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To our dear friend who would like to visit SA because there is no more Apartheid.
Please talk to those who, have had to leave the coutry , because they are not "dark " enough for the country's new Affirmative plan !!!!
"Apartheid" (a SA word only) is discrimination of a white(minority) against a non white (majority). Now if the Majority discriminate against the minority what do you call that? Rasism or the new SA constitution
You are right "Apartheid" is dead, BUT It was replaced with this:
15 000 plus Hijackings a year
18 000 plus murders a year
20 000 plus atempted murders
A person gets raped every 20 min In Sa
More than 1 Cash in transit Heist per day.
80 % Of municipalties are in serious fanacial trouble!
Estimated 10 000 000 illegal Immigrants
(Info bases on Police reports and Insurance Company claims only)
I am a born South African, an African, one who hates Rasism and loathed Apartheid. My SA is and was wonderful country, The country you want to visit is like most countries in Africa, becoming a ticking time bomb.
We have lost the Madiba Magic !
Remember Zimbabwe too,was a great place, not more than 6 years ago . Look at it now!!!
Agree with the views of the way the work force gets treated here, it was never that bad back home. Let us hope and pray for some relieve for those that work incrediable hours for very low wages.
Lets us all stop and give something to these guys at this time of Festivity!
Merry Christmas and Eid Mubarak to all!
Please talk to those who, have had to leave the coutry , because they are not "dark " enough for the country's new Affirmative plan !!!!
"Apartheid" (a SA word only) is discrimination of a white(minority) against a non white (majority). Now if the Majority discriminate against the minority what do you call that? Rasism or the new SA constitution
You are right "Apartheid" is dead, BUT It was replaced with this:
15 000 plus Hijackings a year
18 000 plus murders a year
20 000 plus atempted murders
A person gets raped every 20 min In Sa
More than 1 Cash in transit Heist per day.
80 % Of municipalties are in serious fanacial trouble!
Estimated 10 000 000 illegal Immigrants
(Info bases on Police reports and Insurance Company claims only)
I am a born South African, an African, one who hates Rasism and loathed Apartheid. My SA is and was wonderful country, The country you want to visit is like most countries in Africa, becoming a ticking time bomb.
We have lost the Madiba Magic !
Remember Zimbabwe too,was a great place, not more than 6 years ago . Look at it now!!!
Agree with the views of the way the work force gets treated here, it was never that bad back home. Let us hope and pray for some relieve for those that work incrediable hours for very low wages.
Lets us all stop and give something to these guys at this time of Festivity!
Merry Christmas and Eid Mubarak to all!
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Gulf News defends Dubai...
http://www.gulfnews.com/nation/General/10091864.html
I'm sure they have done their homework...
Enjoy this special evening.
I'm sure
they have done their homework...Enjoy this special evening.
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So what happenend to you then???
I think we (expats) are generally aware of this situation - it's the way it is. Wrong I know, especially for a city that's clamouring to join the world stage, but "what to do?"
I think we (expats) are generally aware of this situation - it's the way it is. Wrong I know, especially for a city that's clamouring to join the world stage, but "what to do?"
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One recent example
Police and The Courts
Published: 25/01/2007 12:00 AM (UAE)
Suspended jail term for former pilot confirmed
By Bassam Za'za' Staff Reporter
Dubai: The Dubai Court of Appeal confirmed a suspended nine-month jail term against a former pilot who was found guilty of assaulting and threatening to kill five hotel and police staff after a drinking binge.
The court confirmed the sentence for 24-year-old S.S., a UAE national and fined him Dh1,000. The Public Prosecution had charged S.S. with the assault and slander of two policemen and resisting arrest, in addition to threatening and assaulting five hotel employees and police personnel. S.S. was also charged with damaging property and drinking four bottles of liquor.
The Dubai Court of First Instance gave S.S. the nine-month jail term earlier, but suspended the verdict on condition that the same crime is not repeated over the course of three years once the ruling becomes irrevocable.
The defendant's lawyer said he had poor mental health and was forced to retire from government service. "Medical reports confirm that he was being treated at the psychiatric ward of a government hospital," said his lawyer.
Published: 25/01/2007 12:00 AM (UAE)
Suspended jail term for former pilot confirmed
By Bassam Za'za' Staff Reporter
Dubai: The Dubai Court of Appeal confirmed a suspended nine-month jail term against a former pilot who was found guilty of assaulting and threatening to kill five hotel and police staff after a drinking binge.
The court confirmed the sentence for 24-year-old S.S., a UAE national and fined him Dh1,000. The Public Prosecution had charged S.S. with the assault and slander of two policemen and resisting arrest, in addition to threatening and assaulting five hotel employees and police personnel. S.S. was also charged with damaging property and drinking four bottles of liquor.
The Dubai Court of First Instance gave S.S. the nine-month jail term earlier, but suspended the verdict on condition that the same crime is not repeated over the course of three years once the ruling becomes irrevocable.
The defendant's lawyer said he had poor mental health and was forced to retire from government service. "Medical reports confirm that he was being treated at the psychiatric ward of a government hospital," said his lawyer.
Fine management material. He should go far.
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Dubai way of life...whats real?
I've been doing some research about the culture in UAE,
for those of you who live there and have to abide by these rules... how real is it? I have a partner (not married) and if we are in dubai...how many of these relationship rules apply to ex pats???
For those fo you who live there...the non married guys..surely you would of had partners??? are all these rules dead serious....or do they get bent?
anyone who can shed some light on this topic...it would be greatly appreciated. As i don't live there, i can only gather information from what i read and from YOU who live there.. if a lot of this is true..it doesn't seem like an attractive place to live? If i can't hug or kiss my partner/hold hands etc..
This is all from the UAE report: http://uaereport.homeblock.com/
1.)Islam is pretty much active in the UAE, all Islamic rules also count for Westerners. Having a "boy friend" or "girl friend" is 'not allowed'.
2.)Kissing or showing affection in a public is not allowed, you might get into prison. We were separated quite often, even in a hotel swimming pool:
3.)A rape case in the UAE can be turned against the raped woman:
for those of you who live there and have to abide by these rules... how real is it? I have a partner (not married) and if we are in dubai...how many of these relationship rules apply to ex pats???
For those fo you who live there...the non married guys..surely you would of had partners??? are all these rules dead serious....or do they get bent?
anyone who can shed some light on this topic...it would be greatly appreciated. As i don't live there, i can only gather information from what i read and from YOU who live there.. if a lot of this is true..it doesn't seem like an attractive place to live? If i can't hug or kiss my partner/hold hands etc..
This is all from the UAE report: http://uaereport.homeblock.com/
1.)Islam is pretty much active in the UAE, all Islamic rules also count for Westerners. Having a "boy friend" or "girl friend" is 'not allowed'.
2.)Kissing or showing affection in a public is not allowed, you might get into prison. We were separated quite often, even in a hotel swimming pool:
3.)A rape case in the UAE can be turned against the raped woman:
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For those fo you who live there...the non married guys..surely you would of had partners??? are all these rules dead serious....or do they get bent?
If you get caught leave UAE ASAP....
The UAE report you are mentioning is 99% correct but it fails to mention that Dubai has one of the most deadly roads in the world.
Furthermore the statement about low crime is not correct. Crime is widely spread but the officials are in denial.
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Another thing you will have to contend with is a bureaucracy bordering on the lunatic. The police force, in particular, seems to employ only the brainless and generally incompetent.
About three weeks ago, I found my car had been clamped whilst parked in a public parking area. When I contacted the police, they claimed the car was on their "wanted" list and they then proceeded to pick up the car and take it to a pound. They then conceded that all this happened due to a "computer problem" at their end, but I still do not have the car back owing to a sheer endless streem of paperwork that has to be completed.
I have yet to hear a single word of apology or any information regarding how victims of such a miscarriage of justice are compensated.
Folks, this place is the proverbial sh1thouse.
About three weeks ago, I found my car had been clamped whilst parked in a public parking area. When I contacted the police, they claimed the car was on their "wanted" list and they then proceeded to pick up the car and take it to a pound. They then conceded that all this happened due to a "computer problem" at their end, but I still do not have the car back owing to a sheer endless streem of paperwork that has to be completed.
I have yet to hear a single word of apology or any information regarding how victims of such a miscarriage of justice are compensated.
Folks, this place is the proverbial sh1thouse.
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Try also:
setting up a business, registering a newborn, buying a house/appartment with a mortgage and not dodgy cash, selling a house (inc new 1.5% transfer charges), getting a mortgage in the first place, registering a boat, launching a boat, having an accident (which is not your fault but still requires the full UAE paper trail) in fact anything that involves the authorities and affiliates thereof and you'll see why the UAE was ranked second to last place by the IMF for a country to do business... I think Uzbekistan was last... no offence to Uzbekistan.
setting up a business, registering a newborn, buying a house/appartment with a mortgage and not dodgy cash, selling a house (inc new 1.5% transfer charges), getting a mortgage in the first place, registering a boat, launching a boat, having an accident (which is not your fault but still requires the full UAE paper trail) in fact anything that involves the authorities and affiliates thereof and you'll see why the UAE was ranked second to last place by the IMF for a country to do business... I think Uzbekistan was last... no offence to Uzbekistan.
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So far i haven't heard or read one good thing about the place...people have said it's great to VISIT....but not to live???? so why live there? yer the money's tax free...but f*ck.. no one sounds happy.. i'll be taking a rain check on my move there... don't exactly want to get there and be an un-happy ex pat who can get arrested for kissing, drinking, living with my partner. . . or live some where with no real system in place.. ??????? and by the sounds of things have to deal with arrogant nationals...
As i say... i don't live there, my partner does, and after reading all the post's on here... not too sure if i want to. So whats the go??? feel free to educate me...
As i say... i don't live there, my partner does, and after reading all the post's on here... not too sure if i want to. So whats the go??? feel free to educate me...
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Jetflite, as bad as it has got here from an organisational point, you will not get arrested for kissing / living with your girlfriend unless you piss someone off. It does take a degree of local and cultural sensitivity to live well here and as bad as the traffic and greed have got, you can live quite peaceably with your girlfriend if you want. Yes its against the law, but they generally don't care.
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Nakheel pledges 10,000 beds for workers
by Andrew White & James Bennett from on line Arabian Business on Sunday, 06 May 2007
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Working conditions of labourers in the emirate has increasingly attracted the attention of the world’s media.
Property giant Nakheel is to build a state-of-the-art facility to accommodate 10,000 labourers working on its flagship Palm, World, and Waterfront developments. The lodgings will boast full amenities and recreation facilities, and will be completed by the end of the year.
"Our new facility at Dubai Waterfront will hopefully set the new standard for labour accommodation," Chris O'Donnell, Nakheel's CEO, told Arabian Business at the Arabian Travel Market in Dubai last week.
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Will it be?...
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Working conditions of labourers in the emirate has increasingly attracted the attention of the world’s media.
Property giant Nakheel is to build a state-of-the-art facility to accommodate 10,000 labourers working on its flagship Palm, World, and Waterfront developments. The lodgings will boast full amenities and recreation facilities, and will be completed by the end of the year.
"Our new facility at Dubai Waterfront will hopefully set the new standard for labour accommodation," Chris O'Donnell, Nakheel's CEO, told Arabian Business at the Arabian Travel Market in Dubai last week.
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Will it be?...
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Geez would you guys give it a rest? all anyone ever does is bitch about dubai on pprune...
Funny how many people complain and never do anything about it. If everything is so peachy back home why not move back ?
What did you think it was gonna be exactly the same as the west ?
Yes things can be a pain in the ass sometimes with paperwork (ie. go to typing !! ) but I have acually had some problems resolved alot quicker there than back in the west.
How can anyone complain about human rights in the UAE, have a look across the border at saudi !
Getting arrested for kissing/having a girlfriend ? come on guys !!?!!
Jetflite if you need any info pm me.
Funny how many people complain and never do anything about it. If everything is so peachy back home why not move back ?
What did you think it was gonna be exactly the same as the west ?
Yes things can be a pain in the ass sometimes with paperwork (ie. go to typing !! ) but I have acually had some problems resolved alot quicker there than back in the west.
How can anyone complain about human rights in the UAE, have a look across the border at saudi !
Getting arrested for kissing/having a girlfriend ? come on guys !!?!!
Jetflite if you need any info pm me.
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dxbpilot,
Where do you live? Perhaps you should try and depart you basic accommodation and experiment living a day or 2 with these other guys...
Credit to the UAE and other countries in treating their Guests better than in Saudi, Somalia, Yemen, Iraq, etc., but don't be complacent. I don't treat my Emirati Guests that way.
Where do you live? Perhaps you should try and depart you basic accommodation and experiment living a day or 2 with these other guys...
Credit to the UAE and other countries in treating their Guests better than in Saudi, Somalia, Yemen, Iraq, etc., but don't be complacent. I don't treat my Emirati Guests that way.
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Punctuality pays off
Good news for the EK boys.
The poor sod deserves it, working for 28 years with a salary cap of 1,020 Dirhams.
Non-aviation, I know but I thought I'd remind you that Dubai really does care.
4HP
Dubai's ruler has awarded a 63-year-old Pakistani gardener 50 000 Dirhams for always showing up to work on time during the 28 years he spent working in the emirate. The bonus Mohammad Nazier received was the equivalent of 49 months' pay from his job with the Gulf Arab state's municipal authority, Emirates Today newspaper said. "I had to take some loans to pay for my children's weddings and education. Now I will repay my debts... and keep some money for the future," said Nazier, who took sick leave only once to undergo surgery."This award means a lot to me. It is because of God's grace that I received it," said Nazier, a former soldier.
Non-aviation, I know but I thought I'd remind you that Dubai really does care.
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Indian expat lives valued at $9,500
Detail from a notice highlighting construction workers' rights, pictured on the back of a bus on 1 April 2006 in Dubai. (Chris Jackson/Getty Images)Treatment of expatriate Indians toiling in the UAE's construction industry may have been improving recently, but the army of workers are still considered overworked and undervalued.
Now the value of those workers has been calculated at AED35,000 ($9,500) by a life insurance company that is targeting the low paid Indian expat.
A new life insurance product called Overseas Indian Insurance Policy has been launched by The New India Assurance company that will pay out AED35,000 in the event of death by natural causes or due to an accident.
by Rob Corder, Arabian Business ON Line on Thursday, 17 May 2007
Detail from a notice highlighting construction workers' rights, pictured on the back of a bus on 1 April 2006 in Dubai. (Chris Jackson/Getty Images)Treatment of expatriate Indians toiling in the UAE's construction industry may have been improving recently, but the army of workers are still considered overworked and undervalued.
Now the value of those workers has been calculated at AED35,000 ($9,500) by a life insurance company that is targeting the low paid Indian expat.
A new life insurance product called Overseas Indian Insurance Policy has been launched by The New India Assurance company that will pay out AED35,000 in the event of death by natural causes or due to an accident.
by Rob Corder, Arabian Business ON Line on Thursday, 17 May 2007