Dubai: "The City that Cares"
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Quote: "why would she expect to get imprisoned for being pregnant"
Because it is not an uncommon occurrence. Observe the reality, don't listen to the PR. It is less dissapointing that way.
Because it is not an uncommon occurrence. Observe the reality, don't listen to the PR. It is less dissapointing that way.
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Dubai: "The City that Cares"
In an effort to educate those who might be considering Emirates/Dubai, I think it might be appropriate to provide information on the city they are considering staking their futures in.
Anyone who comes across articles which might be appropriate to educate the masses please feel free to add them.
Here is the first. Background info is the girl in question was a new Emirates flight attendant and the two groups worked together (one in a Toyota Land Cruiser, one in a Hummer). Welcome to justice Dubai style.
Rape case verdict
Monday, 20 February 2006
The victim of a gang rape stormed out of a Dubai courtroom yesterday after hearing that two of the six defendants on trial for the assault were found not guilty because of insufficient evidence.
Four others, aged between 19 and 21, including two brothers, were sentenced to two years in prison each by the Dubai court of first instance for the attack, last September, on a 23-year-old British woman.
The court also awarded the victim temporary damages of dhs10,000 plus legal costs. The public prosecutor will appeal the judgement, looking for a tougher sentence.
The victim's lawyer, Hamdan Al Harmi, yesterday expressed his client's anger over the acquittal of the two defendants but said they will now file a civil action for further damages.
Medical evidence during the trial showed that the victim had sustained undisclosed injuries resulting from the rape which took place in a remote part of the desert, near the Ras Al Khaimah road.
The victim had accepted the offer of a lift home from the group of young men in Jumeirah after being intimidated by another group of youths. However, the two gangs were working together and instead the woman was driven to the desert where the men took turns in raping her in the car.
The gang later drove her back and dropped her off at Al Mullah Plaza and the victim alerted the police.
A taxi driver was able to provide police with a description the suspects' vehicle descriptions, leading to the gang's arrest within the same day. Four were held without bail in the lead up to the trial.
Wonder what the sentence would have been had it been 6 Indians and a local UAE Muslim girl; I suspect significantly more than 2 years.
This is the place you will bring your wife and daughters and it is getting worse. Just a heads up.
Anyone who comes across articles which might be appropriate to educate the masses please feel free to add them.
Here is the first. Background info is the girl in question was a new Emirates flight attendant and the two groups worked together (one in a Toyota Land Cruiser, one in a Hummer). Welcome to justice Dubai style.
Rape case verdict
Monday, 20 February 2006
The victim of a gang rape stormed out of a Dubai courtroom yesterday after hearing that two of the six defendants on trial for the assault were found not guilty because of insufficient evidence.
Four others, aged between 19 and 21, including two brothers, were sentenced to two years in prison each by the Dubai court of first instance for the attack, last September, on a 23-year-old British woman.
The court also awarded the victim temporary damages of dhs10,000 plus legal costs. The public prosecutor will appeal the judgement, looking for a tougher sentence.
The victim's lawyer, Hamdan Al Harmi, yesterday expressed his client's anger over the acquittal of the two defendants but said they will now file a civil action for further damages.
Medical evidence during the trial showed that the victim had sustained undisclosed injuries resulting from the rape which took place in a remote part of the desert, near the Ras Al Khaimah road.
The victim had accepted the offer of a lift home from the group of young men in Jumeirah after being intimidated by another group of youths. However, the two gangs were working together and instead the woman was driven to the desert where the men took turns in raping her in the car.
The gang later drove her back and dropped her off at Al Mullah Plaza and the victim alerted the police.
A taxi driver was able to provide police with a description the suspects' vehicle descriptions, leading to the gang's arrest within the same day. Four were held without bail in the lead up to the trial.
Wonder what the sentence would have been had it been 6 Indians and a local UAE Muslim girl; I suspect significantly more than 2 years.
This is the place you will bring your wife and daughters and it is getting worse. Just a heads up.
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Dubai Driving
Once you have your wife in Dubai, you'll have to let her drive. Make sure to buy something with lots of metal and plenty of airbags. 2.9 mm of rain + these idiots = 500 accidents in 3 hours; welcome to "paradise".
Season's first rain in Dubai, N. Emirates
By a staff reporter
22 February 2006
DUBAI — Dubai and the Northern Emirates experienced the season's first rainfall early morning yesterday.
The showers which soon turned into a drizzle in most parts of the emirates caused traffic snarls during the morning rush hours, throwing the road network, especially in Sharjah, in disarray.
According to the Meteorological Office in Sharjah, just over three millimetre of rains were recorded in the emirate, but puddles were evident till late evening on the streets. The traffic condition on the inter-emirate highways connecting Dubai and the Northern Emirates was so bad that it took motorists from Sharjah over three hours just to reach Al Qusais in Dubai. Even office-goers within Sharjah were delayed by over an hour. The snarls further worsened due to a number of minor accidents in different parts of the emirate. Dubai's road network also suffered from the showers, but the congestion was tackled more quickly.
The wet weather is likely to persist through the week, with a distinct chance of showers today and tomorrow, according to the Weather Office in Dubai.
The mercury also dipped slightly, down to a minimum of 16 degrees Celsius last night, and a maximum of 24 degrees expected in the day today. The weather will be settled today with light breeze and patches of cloud, and a chance of showers or drizzle in some places. The cloudy weather is expected to prevail till Saturday, according to the weathermen.
Flight information desks at the Dubai International Airport and the Sharjah International Airport reported normal operations and scheduling of all flights, both incoming and outgoing, despite the rainy weather condition yesterday.
Meanwhile, the Control Room of the Dubai Police received between dawn until 9am reports of around 500 traffic accidents caused due to speeding and poor visibility due to the rains. About seven vehicles reportedly collided on Shaikh Zayed road on the way to Abu Dhabi at 6am. Two persons suffered moderate injuries and were transferred to Rashid Hospital.
Similar accidents took place at Al Shindagha Tunnel involving a pile-up of nine cars, while another accident involving seven vehicles collided but no casualties reported. An accident also took place on Al Khail Road when the driver lost control over his speeding vehicle and overturned. He suffered from minor injuries and was transferred to the hospital for medical treatment.
Brigadier Mohamed Saif Al Zafin, Director of General Department of Traffic, called upon motorists to comply by safety measures during rain or fog or sandstorm which can cause low visibility and to take all precautionary measures during weather change even if the roads were empty.
Season's first rain in Dubai, N. Emirates
By a staff reporter
22 February 2006
DUBAI — Dubai and the Northern Emirates experienced the season's first rainfall early morning yesterday.
The showers which soon turned into a drizzle in most parts of the emirates caused traffic snarls during the morning rush hours, throwing the road network, especially in Sharjah, in disarray.
According to the Meteorological Office in Sharjah, just over three millimetre of rains were recorded in the emirate, but puddles were evident till late evening on the streets. The traffic condition on the inter-emirate highways connecting Dubai and the Northern Emirates was so bad that it took motorists from Sharjah over three hours just to reach Al Qusais in Dubai. Even office-goers within Sharjah were delayed by over an hour. The snarls further worsened due to a number of minor accidents in different parts of the emirate. Dubai's road network also suffered from the showers, but the congestion was tackled more quickly.
The wet weather is likely to persist through the week, with a distinct chance of showers today and tomorrow, according to the Weather Office in Dubai.
The mercury also dipped slightly, down to a minimum of 16 degrees Celsius last night, and a maximum of 24 degrees expected in the day today. The weather will be settled today with light breeze and patches of cloud, and a chance of showers or drizzle in some places. The cloudy weather is expected to prevail till Saturday, according to the weathermen.
Flight information desks at the Dubai International Airport and the Sharjah International Airport reported normal operations and scheduling of all flights, both incoming and outgoing, despite the rainy weather condition yesterday.
Meanwhile, the Control Room of the Dubai Police received between dawn until 9am reports of around 500 traffic accidents caused due to speeding and poor visibility due to the rains. About seven vehicles reportedly collided on Shaikh Zayed road on the way to Abu Dhabi at 6am. Two persons suffered moderate injuries and were transferred to Rashid Hospital.
Similar accidents took place at Al Shindagha Tunnel involving a pile-up of nine cars, while another accident involving seven vehicles collided but no casualties reported. An accident also took place on Al Khail Road when the driver lost control over his speeding vehicle and overturned. He suffered from minor injuries and was transferred to the hospital for medical treatment.
Brigadier Mohamed Saif Al Zafin, Director of General Department of Traffic, called upon motorists to comply by safety measures during rain or fog or sandstorm which can cause low visibility and to take all precautionary measures during weather change even if the roads were empty.
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Best career move I have ever made was rejecting an invitation to come over for a DEC interview with EK, and that when desperate for a replacement job to the crap one I had.
Having gone into and out of Dubai for the last 12 years, I am not surprised to read of this latest travesty of justice. As it happens, I was laying over in Dubai when this article was printed in the local paper.
The sad affair brings to mind a story a local EK engineer told me over lunch. It was the last time I spoke to the mongrel.
He and his brothers regularly engaged in such activities as described in the article.
He bragged how this was 'always with white flight attendants', who presumably relaxed their guard when in his otherwise charming company during an aircraft dispatch or turn-around.
Inviting them out, he and his brothers would rape and molest the girls, whom they had often drugged.
The brothers were never been caught. On the one occassion a complaint was made, the police did begin an investigation. But 'the boys' strenuously denied everything. And being such outstanding individuals, read locals, nothing further was said or acted upon.
Lovely place, the Middle East.
Lovely place.
Having gone into and out of Dubai for the last 12 years, I am not surprised to read of this latest travesty of justice. As it happens, I was laying over in Dubai when this article was printed in the local paper.
The sad affair brings to mind a story a local EK engineer told me over lunch. It was the last time I spoke to the mongrel.
He and his brothers regularly engaged in such activities as described in the article.
He bragged how this was 'always with white flight attendants', who presumably relaxed their guard when in his otherwise charming company during an aircraft dispatch or turn-around.
Inviting them out, he and his brothers would rape and molest the girls, whom they had often drugged.
The brothers were never been caught. On the one occassion a complaint was made, the police did begin an investigation. But 'the boys' strenuously denied everything. And being such outstanding individuals, read locals, nothing further was said or acted upon.
Lovely place, the Middle East.
Lovely place.
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One part of me is utterly outraged by the rape case results, and sadly, the other part is not at all surprised.
Another snippet of news on the radio yesterday: Dubai has averaged one death on the roads every day since the New Year. I wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that that was just on Shk Z Rd.
Another snippet of news on the radio yesterday: Dubai has averaged one death on the roads every day since the New Year. I wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that that was just on Shk Z Rd.
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All thoughts to the victim, but am I the only one to think why the hell did she even get into a car with these guys??
Ok they should never have done what they did, but theres 2 sides to every story and maybe she led them to believe she was an easy western girl by even accepting the lift with strangers in the first place.
I mean come on..does she normally do this kind of thing in the UK? accepting lifts from total strangers at night?
If she thought she was in that much danger while waiting for a cab she should have gone back to the hotel..
Ok they should never have done what they did, but theres 2 sides to every story and maybe she led them to believe she was an easy western girl by even accepting the lift with strangers in the first place.
I mean come on..does she normally do this kind of thing in the UK? accepting lifts from total strangers at night?
If she thought she was in that much danger while waiting for a cab she should have gone back to the hotel..
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Originally Posted by naughty but nice
All thoughts to the victim, but am I the only one to think why the hell did she even get into a car with these guys??
Ok they should never have done what they did, but theres 2 sides to every story and maybe she led them to believe she was an easy western girl by even accepting the lift with strangers in the first place.
I mean come on..does she normally do this kind of thing in the UK? accepting lifts from total strangers at night?
If she thought she was in that much danger while waiting for a cab she should have gone back to the hotel..
Ok they should never have done what they did, but theres 2 sides to every story and maybe she led them to believe she was an easy western girl by even accepting the lift with strangers in the first place.
I mean come on..does she normally do this kind of thing in the UK? accepting lifts from total strangers at night?
If she thought she was in that much danger while waiting for a cab she should have gone back to the hotel..
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You've got to be kidding naughty. I don't think its very wise of you to try to wind people up with a post like that, over an issue such as this one.
If you are indeed being serious with that post, then you are only a slightly better human being that those animals mentioned in this thread.
If you are indeed being serious with that post, then you are only a slightly better human being that those animals mentioned in this thread.
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The rape mentioned is terrible and I agree the "penalty" given is ridiculous.
I do however feel much more relaxed leaving my wife alone at home here in Dubai while I am on a nightshift, than I ever did leaving her at home alone in South Africa. She didn't sleep at all and sat with my pistol in her lap and the armed reaction panic alarm next to her till I got home. Many of my friends have been hi-jacked at gun point and attacked in there own homes. My wife and I too were victims of crime, as I am sure, were many others out here. These things here are at least in the news (censored, I agree). A policeman being killed back home might make it to page six, if that!
Mix up different nationalities anywhere, and crime will poke it's ugly head out some time. Would you like to cross paths with the cops out here? I wouldn't.
Yes there is crime here and I agree the justice is not fair at all. But when you look at it in relation to many other places, it could be far worse.
I do however feel much more relaxed leaving my wife alone at home here in Dubai while I am on a nightshift, than I ever did leaving her at home alone in South Africa. She didn't sleep at all and sat with my pistol in her lap and the armed reaction panic alarm next to her till I got home. Many of my friends have been hi-jacked at gun point and attacked in there own homes. My wife and I too were victims of crime, as I am sure, were many others out here. These things here are at least in the news (censored, I agree). A policeman being killed back home might make it to page six, if that!
Mix up different nationalities anywhere, and crime will poke it's ugly head out some time. Would you like to cross paths with the cops out here? I wouldn't.
Yes there is crime here and I agree the justice is not fair at all. But when you look at it in relation to many other places, it could be far worse.
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rubbish
in regards to the rape case,,,first of all who the hell would go alone to madinat jumeirah,the girl was probably drunk out of her mind when she went partying at trilogy,,second of all who would get into a land cruiser at 3:30 in the morn with 4 guyz..
jeezz,,stop with the nonsense..shez the person who has to be blamed..
there are better things to be discussed at this forum..
jeezz,,stop with the nonsense..shez the person who has to be blamed..
there are better things to be discussed at this forum..
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Did somebody say calling Dubai Taxis are toll-free wherever you are?
And did somebody say the taxis are equiped with GPS whatnots that their own dispatch use to direct them wherever customers call?
And did somebody say the taxis accept credit cards in case you've run out of cash?
And did someone say taxis are aplenty around that area irrespective of the time?
And did somebody say the fare from Madinat to the crew quarters on SZR would not have cost more than Dhs 30? (assuming that is where she resides)
Those questions aside, we've only read of her ordeal through the DXB newspapers.Let's wait for her to tell it the way it was once she gets back home.
Hearts out for her: the guys should have been punished severely!!!!
And did somebody say the taxis are equiped with GPS whatnots that their own dispatch use to direct them wherever customers call?
And did somebody say the taxis accept credit cards in case you've run out of cash?
And did someone say taxis are aplenty around that area irrespective of the time?
And did somebody say the fare from Madinat to the crew quarters on SZR would not have cost more than Dhs 30? (assuming that is where she resides)
Those questions aside, we've only read of her ordeal through the DXB newspapers.Let's wait for her to tell it the way it was once she gets back home.
Hearts out for her: the guys should have been punished severely!!!!
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The '7 days' report said she got into the Land Cruiser after the occupants 'rescued' her from a group of young locals in a Hummer who were harrassing her. But, you guessed it, the two groups were working together and took her out into the desert and the six of them repeatedly gang raped her before dropping her off at a shopping centre in Deira. She was 23 yo Flight Attendant and very new to DXB, probably still in the "MMID" phase.
The incident bears some resemblance to what the young lads of a similar background have been doing in Sydney for years now.
They were identified by a cab driver who witnessed the harrassment and rescue. Two got off for lack of evidence and the other four got two years. It would be interesting to see what the sentences would have been had the nationalities and genders been reversed. Not that any National woman would ever allow herself to be in such a situation.
The incident bears some resemblance to what the young lads of a similar background have been doing in Sydney for years now.
They were identified by a cab driver who witnessed the harrassment and rescue. Two got off for lack of evidence and the other four got two years. It would be interesting to see what the sentences would have been had the nationalities and genders been reversed. Not that any National woman would ever allow herself to be in such a situation.
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If you don't want to discuss the topic on this forum then p**s off. That was your first post, at least under that name and I hope it's your last. Yes, this is a forum for differing opinions but to condone the rape by a gang of animals because the girl was drunk shows you to be no better than the perpetrators of the crime.
People with scewed ideas on life would do well to apply for a job in the Dubai Judicial service. You sound like the ideal candidate you tosser
If you don't want to discuss the topic on this forum then p**s off. That was your first post, at least under that name and I hope it's your last. Yes, this is a forum for differing opinions but to condone the rape by a gang of animals because the girl was drunk shows you to be no better than the perpetrators of the crime.
People with scewed ideas on life would do well to apply for a job in the Dubai Judicial service. You sound like the ideal candidate you tosser
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Guys I know we are all professionals here....and I should not swear...but today is an exception....Vbalasu, you are an IDIOT and a pathetic ass and a person that does not care for humanity. One day it will be your daughter out there and the joke will be on you.
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Naughty But Nice you are an idiot.Even the papers provide more detail than you seem to know given you have already blamed (at least partially) the girl for the offence.In a civilised world such as we purportably live in, RAPE by any guise is a VERY SERIOUS offense regardless how intoxicated or not the VICTIM was, and it would seem this was not a simple matter of taking advantage of a "non street wise" foreign girl.
Vblasu you are the KING of SCUM.If you are trully a Canadian, I can see why you are in the Middle east now. You obviously don't fit in there. Viewpoints like those are not shared with the community, nor with the judicial system.
For locals to get 2 years jail time in this case,there must have been compelling evidence to incriminate, or they would have walked. I believe 2 years for a "guilty" verdict under the circumstances is much too lenient, but that is a personal opinion. Put your daughter or wife in the victim's role and see how your perspective is.
We see petty thieves of foreign persuasion get 4 years+ for less than Dhs 500 worth of merchandise!
The concept of 2 separate judicial systems (at least with regards to incrimination and sentencing) is very much alive here.In another Rape case a man was sentenced to less than 6 months because his 2 separate victims took a month to come forward due to fear and ignorance of the judicial system here. The judge found him guilty "without doubt" but reduced his sentence because the girls took "excessive" time comming forward. Developed countries usually have a limitations statute running for may years if not indefinately for heinous crimes such as rape.
Yet another was given 2 years for stealing a Porche Cayenne and kidnapping a 13 year old, raping her repeatedly at a farm near Hatta. When the authorities caught up with him 2 days later, he rammed the patrol vehicles in his attempt to flee, writing off 3 of the vehicles.
Funny how other Muslim countries reward Rapists with the death penalty, but here 2 years (at least for a national) seems to fit the bill... but again only if there is overwhelming evidence!
Speaking with the police recently the number of residential breakins are on the rise exponentially. There is also many more reports of home invasions but these generally do not make it to the press.
I'm afraid like any big urban area there are problems, but the idea of Dubai being free of "serious" crime are days of the past. Most just don't make it to the press either intentionally or otherwise.
Till now I've only touched on some of the examples of "criminal" mis- justice, but the stories of "civil" cases abound as well. Ask many whom have been involved in property aquisition in Dubai. Very few will tell an unblemished story. (although if you have "found money "to speculate, in the past some have found it fruitful -don't want to be entirely negative here
) Everything from being involved in a traffic accident (neglegent is really more the term), to contesting unfair billing/treatment and lack of consumer rights brings with it many more obstacles than many developed countires.
For those contemplating a move here, if you really must leave your "civilized" environment to come here, put your egos aside for a short bit, research and find out what you are really bringing your family into.
Also, as many of the "happy lot" point out, you can try it and if you don't like it you can always leave... (goes for management's prime motto at EK too!), but it's akin to the Eagles song "Hotel California". Anything short of a "runner" within several years (read 3-7) of joining is a very arduous and expensive process negating the whole reason for comming (unless you are really tired of cold, rain and overcast sky), and with that also brings obvious consequences.
Vblasu you are the KING of SCUM.If you are trully a Canadian, I can see why you are in the Middle east now. You obviously don't fit in there. Viewpoints like those are not shared with the community, nor with the judicial system.
For locals to get 2 years jail time in this case,there must have been compelling evidence to incriminate, or they would have walked. I believe 2 years for a "guilty" verdict under the circumstances is much too lenient, but that is a personal opinion. Put your daughter or wife in the victim's role and see how your perspective is.
We see petty thieves of foreign persuasion get 4 years+ for less than Dhs 500 worth of merchandise!
The concept of 2 separate judicial systems (at least with regards to incrimination and sentencing) is very much alive here.In another Rape case a man was sentenced to less than 6 months because his 2 separate victims took a month to come forward due to fear and ignorance of the judicial system here. The judge found him guilty "without doubt" but reduced his sentence because the girls took "excessive" time comming forward. Developed countries usually have a limitations statute running for may years if not indefinately for heinous crimes such as rape.
Yet another was given 2 years for stealing a Porche Cayenne and kidnapping a 13 year old, raping her repeatedly at a farm near Hatta. When the authorities caught up with him 2 days later, he rammed the patrol vehicles in his attempt to flee, writing off 3 of the vehicles.
Funny how other Muslim countries reward Rapists with the death penalty, but here 2 years (at least for a national) seems to fit the bill... but again only if there is overwhelming evidence!
Speaking with the police recently the number of residential breakins are on the rise exponentially. There is also many more reports of home invasions but these generally do not make it to the press.
I'm afraid like any big urban area there are problems, but the idea of Dubai being free of "serious" crime are days of the past. Most just don't make it to the press either intentionally or otherwise.
Till now I've only touched on some of the examples of "criminal" mis- justice, but the stories of "civil" cases abound as well. Ask many whom have been involved in property aquisition in Dubai. Very few will tell an unblemished story. (although if you have "found money "to speculate, in the past some have found it fruitful -don't want to be entirely negative here
) Everything from being involved in a traffic accident (neglegent is really more the term), to contesting unfair billing/treatment and lack of consumer rights brings with it many more obstacles than many developed countires.For those contemplating a move here, if you really must leave your "civilized" environment to come here, put your egos aside for a short bit, research and find out what you are really bringing your family into.
Also, as many of the "happy lot" point out, you can try it and if you don't like it you can always leave... (goes for management's prime motto at EK too!), but it's akin to the Eagles song "Hotel California". Anything short of a "runner" within several years (read 3-7) of joining is a very arduous and expensive process negating the whole reason for comming (unless you are really tired of cold, rain and overcast sky), and with that also brings obvious consequences.
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Alternatively you could apply to CX with a basing in MEL or SYD , (see Flt Intnl website) could be attractive to some , leaving early is not that arduous and preferable to slowly getting bitter and twisted .
As for the shamefully lenient sentence imposed on the rapists ,they were found guilty , the act involved abduction , tantamount to kidnapping with the
intent to commit sexual assault ,followed by an actual assault; a very serious crime indeed with a penalty in the region of 10-15 yrs in Europe and life imprisonment in Texas , as for Saudi well that,s been mentioned.
Sometimes this blatant "dual" legal system , civil or criminal, will be the final straw to those who were not that content at EK, after all just walking away is the only form of protest available which is frustrating to say the least.
As for the shamefully lenient sentence imposed on the rapists ,they were found guilty , the act involved abduction , tantamount to kidnapping with the
intent to commit sexual assault ,followed by an actual assault; a very serious crime indeed with a penalty in the region of 10-15 yrs in Europe and life imprisonment in Texas , as for Saudi well that,s been mentioned.
Sometimes this blatant "dual" legal system , civil or criminal, will be the final straw to those who were not that content at EK, after all just walking away is the only form of protest available which is frustrating to say the least.
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Originally Posted by naughty but nice
All thoughts to the victim, but am I the only one to think why the hell did she even get into a car with these guys??
Ok they should never have done what they did, but theres 2 sides to every story and maybe she led them to believe she was an easy western girl by even accepting the lift with strangers in the first place.
I mean come on..does she normally do this kind of thing in the UK? accepting lifts from total strangers at night?
If she thought she was in that much danger while waiting for a cab she should have gone back to the hotel..
Ok they should never have done what they did, but theres 2 sides to every story and maybe she led them to believe she was an easy western girl by even accepting the lift with strangers in the first place.
I mean come on..does she normally do this kind of thing in the UK? accepting lifts from total strangers at night?
If she thought she was in that much danger while waiting for a cab she should have gone back to the hotel..
The people reacting in this thread and judging a country just by hearsay or actual living there and not agreeing: WAKE UP
Isn't the same thing going on in your own countries but less obvious?
And is the story completely true? I've seen circuimstances which could have ended in the same rumour/story/verdict/etc as this, fortunately I and my collaegues haven't
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I can't believe people are actually blaming the rape victim.
It's so easy to blame the poor girl, isn't it ?
How about this, why not blame those 4 men in the Land Cruiser?
They're probably butt ugly, could never get laid on their own, and the only way to get some action is to either pay a hooker, or rape someone. Paying a hooker is too expensive for those butt-ugly men, so they steal a date rape drug like GHB, and then they decide to rape.
They're horny, desperate, and "looking for some action."
In no way are their actions justified. It's truly pathetic of them to do what they did.
They're pathetic scumbag.
Our laws in the USA would have tore these guys a new one! They'd been locked away for good (a very long time at least, much greater than 2 years). And on top of that, we got Nance Grace on CNN to b*tch on how these men are monsters, and deserve the death penalty.
It's so easy to blame the poor girl, isn't it ?
How about this, why not blame those 4 men in the Land Cruiser?
They're probably butt ugly, could never get laid on their own, and the only way to get some action is to either pay a hooker, or rape someone. Paying a hooker is too expensive for those butt-ugly men, so they steal a date rape drug like GHB, and then they decide to rape.
They're horny, desperate, and "looking for some action."
In no way are their actions justified. It's truly pathetic of them to do what they did.
They're pathetic scumbag.
Our laws in the USA would have tore these guys a new one! They'd been locked away for good (a very long time at least, much greater than 2 years). And on top of that, we got Nance Grace on CNN to b*tch on how these men are monsters, and deserve the death penalty.