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had to post this...
...a little surprised at reading this but is it not typical of OUR diverse society that is so wrongly referred to as a 'melting pot'?
...keep discovering
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http://www.geocities.com-SoHo-cafe-9653-emirates2.html
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 8:44 PM
Subject: Complaints about Emirates
Just read your numerous complaints after a colleague told me about the
site...and I had to respond after I'd picked myself up off the floor where
I'd been crying with laughter!! Are you lot really serious?! Yes I do work
for an airline and I'd like to share a view from the other side of the fence
(the no-chip-on-shoulder don't-expect-the-world-on-a-plastic-plate side) -
1. You have a baby. Yes, it's YOUR baby. So bring nappies, milk, soft toys.
It might need feeding or changing on a ten hour flight.
2. You have a child. Or six. Yes, they are YOUR children and YOUR
responsibility. So keep them in order. Bring toys, books, games. They might
need entertaining on a ten hour flight and if they don't eat regular food
bring whatever the spoilt brats do eat. An aircraft is not a creche.
3. A window seat is not a God-given right. Or an aisle seat. Or a row of
four to yourself.
4. Sitting with the rest of your family/group is not a God-given right.
Especially when you check in ten minutes before the flight closes.
5. Aircraft do go tech. They do break down. It pisses us off just as much
sitting around waiting for the flight to take off as it does you. At least
you aren't forced to stay awake for hours at four am with only abuse from
passengers to look forward to. We don't get a hotel room either.
6. Have you ever tried to take off or land in British or east-coast US
winter? Sometimes flights will be delayed because of weather. Fact. We
haven't yet perfected the weather-control system.
7. You reckon Asians are treated worse than "others" at Dubai. Have you ever
stopped to see who it is that behaves the least civilly to those working
there? And funnily enough they always seem to have a non-Asian passport
conspicuously poking from a top pocket. Didn't realise that elevates your
status in life. By the way the rest of us aren't so bothered about the world
knowing where we "come from" and keep them in our bags. Those of us who
really are British/American.
8. Baggage. That's what it means. Not the entire contents of your house. Why
are you surprised when you are asked to pay for excess, if the weight limit
is 30kgs and you turn up with 80 (and hand baggage the size of a small beach
hut hidden round the corner with your nan)?
9.You didn't order vegetarian. We are not telepathic. What do you suggest we
do at thirty nine thousand feet above the Atlantic? Divert?
10.Your bag got lost. One bag amongst the millions that travel every day.
Ok, bad luck, but you put jewellery worth $10k in it? Are you daft? Emirates
lost my brother's golf clubs and he's a golf pro. Kind of relies on them for
work. We got them back (and $100 compensation, both delivered to our door)
three days later.
11. Your bag arrived at Delhi airport but not to you. The airline proved it
did. Are you out for compensation even though it was your own corrupt
airport's fault by any chance?
12. You need a glass of water. You HAVE to have it cos you're a heart
patient. Yeah, you and the other 319 passengers in Economy on a B777. You're
in an aisle seat right next to the wall-mounted water dispenser. Rocket
science, is it? No bloody wonder you get glared at when you ask.
13. Some nasty crew member refused to lift your bags up to the hatrack. Poor
you, that horrid mean crew member. I mean, why should YOU lift your OWN bag
with YOUR possessions that YOU brought all through the airport perfectly OK?
Never mind the back problems crew experience, they were nasty and mean to
you not to lift your bag. Myself, I'd be happy to lift your bag. When I
eventually get back to flying - I'm still recovering from spinal surgery to
correct a slipped disc.
14.The crew were rude. How awful. What, incidentally, did you say to them in
the first place? If it was something along the lines of "get me Pepsi"
...... "I want a blanket" ....... "give me chicken" ... "TEA!! TEA!! TEA!!"
then hardly surprising!! Do you think please and thankyou were invented just
for spelling practice? And don't expect friendly facial expressions if you
are offered tea by a crew member carrying ONE pot and you hold your cup out
and demand coffee. It's not a magic pot.
15. One final thought - who are all your complaints from? Face it, you may
get out and swindle a passport from the UK or the US (everyone knows British
passports can be obtained from the back of Kelloggs packets and for some
reason sending one member of the family to school in the US miraculously
provides access for the whole family including Great Aunt so-and-so up the
road and the neighbour's dog) but at the end of the day you are still Indian
or Pakistani. We know that, you know that. So stop pretending, you are a
laughing stock in the country you now call your own even though you barely
speak the language. Accept it, get the potato-sized chip off your shoulder
and while you're at it why not stay in your own country, stop emigrating and
use only your own airlines then you wouldn't have anything to complain
about.
Actually, what would you do for entertainment then?
Best regards from the airline industry!
...keep discovering
mV8
http://www.geocities.com-SoHo-cafe-9653-emirates2.html
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 8:44 PM
Subject: Complaints about Emirates
Just read your numerous complaints after a colleague told me about the
site...and I had to respond after I'd picked myself up off the floor where
I'd been crying with laughter!! Are you lot really serious?! Yes I do work
for an airline and I'd like to share a view from the other side of the fence
(the no-chip-on-shoulder don't-expect-the-world-on-a-plastic-plate side) -
1. You have a baby. Yes, it's YOUR baby. So bring nappies, milk, soft toys.
It might need feeding or changing on a ten hour flight.
2. You have a child. Or six. Yes, they are YOUR children and YOUR
responsibility. So keep them in order. Bring toys, books, games. They might
need entertaining on a ten hour flight and if they don't eat regular food
bring whatever the spoilt brats do eat. An aircraft is not a creche.
3. A window seat is not a God-given right. Or an aisle seat. Or a row of
four to yourself.
4. Sitting with the rest of your family/group is not a God-given right.
Especially when you check in ten minutes before the flight closes.
5. Aircraft do go tech. They do break down. It pisses us off just as much
sitting around waiting for the flight to take off as it does you. At least
you aren't forced to stay awake for hours at four am with only abuse from
passengers to look forward to. We don't get a hotel room either.
6. Have you ever tried to take off or land in British or east-coast US
winter? Sometimes flights will be delayed because of weather. Fact. We
haven't yet perfected the weather-control system.
7. You reckon Asians are treated worse than "others" at Dubai. Have you ever
stopped to see who it is that behaves the least civilly to those working
there? And funnily enough they always seem to have a non-Asian passport
conspicuously poking from a top pocket. Didn't realise that elevates your
status in life. By the way the rest of us aren't so bothered about the world
knowing where we "come from" and keep them in our bags. Those of us who
really are British/American.
8. Baggage. That's what it means. Not the entire contents of your house. Why
are you surprised when you are asked to pay for excess, if the weight limit
is 30kgs and you turn up with 80 (and hand baggage the size of a small beach
hut hidden round the corner with your nan)?
9.You didn't order vegetarian. We are not telepathic. What do you suggest we
do at thirty nine thousand feet above the Atlantic? Divert?
10.Your bag got lost. One bag amongst the millions that travel every day.
Ok, bad luck, but you put jewellery worth $10k in it? Are you daft? Emirates
lost my brother's golf clubs and he's a golf pro. Kind of relies on them for
work. We got them back (and $100 compensation, both delivered to our door)
three days later.
11. Your bag arrived at Delhi airport but not to you. The airline proved it
did. Are you out for compensation even though it was your own corrupt
airport's fault by any chance?
12. You need a glass of water. You HAVE to have it cos you're a heart
patient. Yeah, you and the other 319 passengers in Economy on a B777. You're
in an aisle seat right next to the wall-mounted water dispenser. Rocket
science, is it? No bloody wonder you get glared at when you ask.
13. Some nasty crew member refused to lift your bags up to the hatrack. Poor
you, that horrid mean crew member. I mean, why should YOU lift your OWN bag
with YOUR possessions that YOU brought all through the airport perfectly OK?
Never mind the back problems crew experience, they were nasty and mean to
you not to lift your bag. Myself, I'd be happy to lift your bag. When I
eventually get back to flying - I'm still recovering from spinal surgery to
correct a slipped disc.
14.The crew were rude. How awful. What, incidentally, did you say to them in
the first place? If it was something along the lines of "get me Pepsi"
...... "I want a blanket" ....... "give me chicken" ... "TEA!! TEA!! TEA!!"
then hardly surprising!! Do you think please and thankyou were invented just
for spelling practice? And don't expect friendly facial expressions if you
are offered tea by a crew member carrying ONE pot and you hold your cup out
and demand coffee. It's not a magic pot.
15. One final thought - who are all your complaints from? Face it, you may
get out and swindle a passport from the UK or the US (everyone knows British
passports can be obtained from the back of Kelloggs packets and for some
reason sending one member of the family to school in the US miraculously
provides access for the whole family including Great Aunt so-and-so up the
road and the neighbour's dog) but at the end of the day you are still Indian
or Pakistani. We know that, you know that. So stop pretending, you are a
laughing stock in the country you now call your own even though you barely
speak the language. Accept it, get the potato-sized chip off your shoulder
and while you're at it why not stay in your own country, stop emigrating and
use only your own airlines then you wouldn't have anything to complain
about.
Actually, what would you do for entertainment then?
Best regards from the airline industry!
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Thanks for posting that masterpiece, we needed some comic relief around here.
Yes, extremely well-said and obviously straight from the heart. Someone put a lot of effort into that which means he/she has been putting up with this wonderful "diversity" for a long time.
The link doesn't work. Does the site contain a collection of agonising whinges from the sub-continent about how much they were wanting wanting??
Should be good for a laugh.....
Yes, extremely well-said and obviously straight from the heart. Someone put a lot of effort into that which means he/she has been putting up with this wonderful "diversity" for a long time.
The link doesn't work. Does the site contain a collection of agonising whinges from the sub-continent about how much they were wanting wanting??
Should be good for a laugh.....
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my mistake
http://www.geocities.com/soho/cafe/9653/emirates2.html/
that should do it...
mV8
nope, that didn\'t work either.
SO, try this... type in \'emirates complaints\' in yahoo or google and it should be the first link. you\'ll know when u see it.
mV8
http://www.geocities.com/soho/cafe/9653/emirates2.html/
that should do it...
mV8
nope, that didn\'t work either.
SO, try this... type in \'emirates complaints\' in yahoo or google and it should be the first link. you\'ll know when u see it.
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Aaaaahh THE website...
it's been a long time since the last time I looked at it.. obviously the last post made them some thinking...
any chance they still leep posting the complaints.. it's my entertainment!!
it's been a long time since the last time I looked at it.. obviously the last post made them some thinking...
any chance they still leep posting the complaints.. it's my entertainment!!
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So, we should just stay in our respective countries, dont travel, dont dare use your 'god-given' right to complain, treat cabin crew like they are celebrities(dont ask them for anything!) AND be super conscious of yourself if you are from the sub-continent since you are an embarrasment .
So, this person is an emirati who has not emigrated herself to find a job(yeah right!)...AND her job is so prestigious that god-forbid certain paying pax(whatever their potato-chip on shoulder) treat him/her like anyone else would any where around the world.
Do waiters/waitresses on the ground complain like this?
I know the flak im gonna recieve...but I think that post went beyond frustration...more into racism/hatred.
mV8
So, this person is an emirati who has not emigrated herself to find a job(yeah right!)...AND her job is so prestigious that god-forbid certain paying pax(whatever their potato-chip on shoulder) treat him/her like anyone else would any where around the world.
Do waiters/waitresses on the ground complain like this?
I know the flak im gonna recieve...but I think that post went beyond frustration...more into racism/hatred.
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MV8 - you're missing the point COMPLETELY old son.......
It's all about treating people with a bit of respect, ie the way some pax talk to the cabin crew is way OUT OF ORDER which is what this post is all about. And try looking at THE CONDITIONS OF CARRIAGE with regards to Carry On allowance and hold baggage allowance. And THEN think about how obnoxious the other pax think you may be, you know, the pax that say "please" or "thankyou", and wait politely for their turn..
It's not about racism or hatred - just REALITY, so less of the PC bull****
It's all about treating people with a bit of respect, ie the way some pax talk to the cabin crew is way OUT OF ORDER which is what this post is all about. And try looking at THE CONDITIONS OF CARRIAGE with regards to Carry On allowance and hold baggage allowance. And THEN think about how obnoxious the other pax think you may be, you know, the pax that say "please" or "thankyou", and wait politely for their turn..
It's not about racism or hatred - just REALITY, so less of the PC bull****
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Do waiters/waitresses on the ground complain like this?
Hahaha funny enough they do!
My friend resigned from Emirates and continue his study in state. He's also working in a restaurant. We feel sorry for him when he started complaining... ( exactly the same issue Kate Murray was talking about )
It's not only coming from cabin crew in Emirates, or a friend who works in a restaurant
but also stories from other Airlines! Other country! Other industry.. book shop, boutique, supermarket....
So PLEASEEEE refrain using this EMIRATES cabin are racis/hatred... if you get what I mean. It's not fair. The one who posted already resigned anyway...
For your information we are the nicest/ the most tolerance crew towards this act. Other airline??? ( I don't want to think what are they going to do with them... )
Hahaha funny enough they do!
My friend resigned from Emirates and continue his study in state. He's also working in a restaurant. We feel sorry for him when he started complaining... ( exactly the same issue Kate Murray was talking about )
It's not only coming from cabin crew in Emirates, or a friend who works in a restaurant
but also stories from other Airlines! Other country! Other industry.. book shop, boutique, supermarket....
So PLEASEEEE refrain using this EMIRATES cabin are racis/hatred... if you get what I mean. It's not fair. The one who posted already resigned anyway...
For your information we are the nicest/ the most tolerance crew towards this act. Other airline??? ( I don't want to think what are they going to do with them... )
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I dont think it is just in this industry. With over 1 billion in one country it is happening in world wide industry.
What I can never understand is why someone who has lived in a country for their whole life can get a passport from Canada, England or America. They then call themselves nationals of that country. When asked where are you from "I am Canadian or English etc. There is no national pride. As someone said we all know where they are from. It is as though by getting a different passport others will treat them differently. Its a bit like supporting a football team and changing to another team when that team wins the world cup. No loyalty.
Heres the rub though. When they go and live in the new country, they try to change it back into the country they have tried so hard to run from. The trouble is the way they change the country is how they leave an aircraft at the end of a flight. Go into Hounslow or Birmingham or Toronto and you will see what I mean.
Whats it all about ?????
What I can never understand is why someone who has lived in a country for their whole life can get a passport from Canada, England or America. They then call themselves nationals of that country. When asked where are you from "I am Canadian or English etc. There is no national pride. As someone said we all know where they are from. It is as though by getting a different passport others will treat them differently. Its a bit like supporting a football team and changing to another team when that team wins the world cup. No loyalty.
Heres the rub though. When they go and live in the new country, they try to change it back into the country they have tried so hard to run from. The trouble is the way they change the country is how they leave an aircraft at the end of a flight. Go into Hounslow or Birmingham or Toronto and you will see what I mean.
Whats it all about ?????
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As I understand it, you have to be already living in a country for a certain period to get the passport, right? Live the life, spend the money...thats what its all about...MONEY. Why would the 'civilized' govts even offer citizenship to others? Aren't there enough of the indigenous population paying taxes, or do they just want more color on the streets. maybe the govts just want to piss you off.
"for some
reason sending one member of the family to school in the US miraculously
provides access for the whole family including Great Aunt so-and-so up the
road and the neighbour's dog) but at the end of the day you are still Indian
or Pakistani. We know that, you know that. So stop pretending, you are a
laughing stock in the country you now call your own even though you barely
speak the language. Accept it, get the potato-sized chip off your shoulder
and while you're at it why not stay in your own country, stop emigrating and
use only your own airlines then you wouldn't have anything to complain
about.
Actually, what would you do for entertainment then?
Best regards from the airline industry!"
If that seems funny, relevant, accurate to some ppl, we have some issues, especially that last line...
Anyway, this is an aviation forum so I stop here.
mV8
"for some
reason sending one member of the family to school in the US miraculously
provides access for the whole family including Great Aunt so-and-so up the
road and the neighbour's dog) but at the end of the day you are still Indian
or Pakistani. We know that, you know that. So stop pretending, you are a
laughing stock in the country you now call your own even though you barely
speak the language. Accept it, get the potato-sized chip off your shoulder
and while you're at it why not stay in your own country, stop emigrating and
use only your own airlines then you wouldn't have anything to complain
about.
Actually, what would you do for entertainment then?
Best regards from the airline industry!"
If that seems funny, relevant, accurate to some ppl, we have some issues, especially that last line...
Anyway, this is an aviation forum so I stop here.
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I got what I wanted from this
The line about "the crew were rude to me" just hits such a nerve. I've lost count of the number of times I hear that from the girls who've just had enough of trying to please such a nature.
The other classic is the one about the carry-on and suddenly they can't lift it to the bin. It's like it's some kind of statement.... "YOU lift it up and then I, the owner of the bag, will feel justified somehow."
So tell us MV8, how can EVERYONE here all be so wrong?
Careful though, you're preaching to a lot of guys who've spent a lot of time "discovering" about other cultures since living in Dubai...
Over to you: