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Hi sun 737 im reading this discusion full of intrest. But anoniem meeting in ayt, will not work i guess, out of experience u can not do anything there without meeting some xq people.
Maybe its better to get peoples identity via private mail and then make kind of computer conference via msn or so.
Wish u good luck, i once loved this company and its paining to c wath is happening.
Maybe its better to get peoples identity via private mail and then make kind of computer conference via msn or so.
Wish u good luck, i once loved this company and its paining to c wath is happening.
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You never understand do u ? If we don't get together we have no power.Who gives a s.hit what we write here? Wake up,please.Ok have fun,call Bond or Mandrake,I don't care.But I am loosing my hope,and like many others I will be silent soon,deep silent.And whatever they do in the company I will not care.Until they reach me,then I jump to another airline.Already many people did this and we will do the same in time,one by one.Don't let this happen to people.Let's find a way out.
I hope it's not only an imagination that there is still some people who love this company,and I hope everybody here is not just having fun.Because I don't
Look at these messages; everybody says 'let's do something,let's come to topic'.But no idea at all.Ok you are right let's do something...( I think finally I did something,saying 'let's do something' )
SAD
Addition : Mr P.S. I\'m sure u are reading these messages here and I\'m also sure u are enjoying,that we can do nothing but talking.Enjoy
I hope it's not only an imagination that there is still some people who love this company,and I hope everybody here is not just having fun.Because I don't
Look at these messages; everybody says 'let's do something,let's come to topic'.But no idea at all.Ok you are right let's do something...( I think finally I did something,saying 'let's do something' )
SAD
Addition : Mr P.S. I\'m sure u are reading these messages here and I\'m also sure u are enjoying,that we can do nothing but talking.Enjoy
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It depends, if he is a BANKRUPTCY MAKER he will enjoy all these posts, but what if not.
What is he thinking about all this sh.t happened in this company.
What is he thinking about the resigned incompetent a..li..ing 76 gang.
It is a shame that these guys represented a part of sun managment.
So P.S give us our company back ,OUR AIRLINE. YOU DONT DESERVE IT TO MANAGE AN AIRLINE LIKE SUN.
What is he thinking about all this sh.t happened in this company.
What is he thinking about the resigned incompetent a..li..ing 76 gang.
It is a shame that these guys represented a part of sun managment.
So P.S give us our company back ,OUR AIRLINE. YOU DONT DESERVE IT TO MANAGE AN AIRLINE LIKE SUN.
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Honestly I don't believe any of the 'heavy artillary' is following this topic.We would be happy to answer them or explain the situation.
New news,some incompetent guys are trying to be DO,they are passive now.They don't apply at the moment and evaluating.If they get an invitation,and everything keep going worst,they would be able to say 'hey u invited us,we actually didn't want'.An example for u is Durm.. Den..
A new group of the came class is getting stronger,I am not sure if they are also 76' but contains S.Blacksmoke,M.Cutter,N.Dul.er,K.Ironbag and some a.s l.cker FO s as their soldiers.
Flight Director Camel is confused,he needs a shadow as he can't stay in the daylight,now he doesn't know to whom to get close.One side resigned but still TRE,the other side getting strong day by day.He must betray one side.
And unfortunately Cpt Ged.k has no hope from us at all,he is also aware of this topic and I am sure he is following (I hope).
New news,some incompetent guys are trying to be DO,they are passive now.They don't apply at the moment and evaluating.If they get an invitation,and everything keep going worst,they would be able to say 'hey u invited us,we actually didn't want'.An example for u is Durm.. Den..
A new group of the came class is getting stronger,I am not sure if they are also 76' but contains S.Blacksmoke,M.Cutter,N.Dul.er,K.Ironbag and some a.s l.cker FO s as their soldiers.
Flight Director Camel is confused,he needs a shadow as he can't stay in the daylight,now he doesn't know to whom to get close.One side resigned but still TRE,the other side getting strong day by day.He must betray one side.
And unfortunately Cpt Ged.k has no hope from us at all,he is also aware of this topic and I am sure he is following (I hope).
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Whisper,
I would say a red rose, at least I would have some fun when people start laughing hhehehhe............
OOOOOo and coming to what you dont know, they belong to the 76ers, used to be the silent part but because they know that with their management style they have to circulate the positions it looks very logical for them to appear on the stages.................
really RED ROSE in STYLEEE, you and me yeahhhhhhhh hhehehe....
And SUN today I got the confirmation that P.S. isssss the Fischer
manager at the time it went down, later it became FTI..........
I would say a red rose, at least I would have some fun when people start laughing hhehehhe............
OOOOOo and coming to what you dont know, they belong to the 76ers, used to be the silent part but because they know that with their management style they have to circulate the positions it looks very logical for them to appear on the stages.................
really RED ROSE in STYLEEE, you and me yeahhhhhhhh hhehehe....
And SUN today I got the confirmation that P.S. isssss the Fischer
manager at the time it went down, later it became FTI..........
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A..licker Flightdirector Kami. cant fly at all.
Durmu. Sea as new DO? Guys this is a joke. ISNt it?
Capt. Fikre. pls strt building a kind of Union within the company, we have to do something otherwise sun will not survive. One a..licker goes the other comes.
I dont want to see Sun in newspaper like Fisher Travel.
Durmu. Sea as new DO? Guys this is a joke. ISNt it?
Capt. Fikre. pls strt building a kind of Union within the company, we have to do something otherwise sun will not survive. One a..licker goes the other comes.
I dont want to see Sun in newspaper like Fisher Travel.
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Too sad ,
Guys do you know the difference between us and the 76'ers ?
I bet you guys a million bucks that these guys at this time in a meeting of somekind to overcome this situation they are in. Another words they are always together whatever they do. Stick together,hangout together. Their advantages, they share their spies to bring them the info and they come to conculusion all together. Meetings,meetings,meetings. Unlike us they dont have to be scared to be caught.
They are dangerous to everyone.
I just hope they vanish out of here so we dont have to take this to ourhands.............
Guys do you know the difference between us and the 76'ers ?
I bet you guys a million bucks that these guys at this time in a meeting of somekind to overcome this situation they are in. Another words they are always together whatever they do. Stick together,hangout together. Their advantages, they share their spies to bring them the info and they come to conculusion all together. Meetings,meetings,meetings. Unlike us they dont have to be scared to be caught.
They are dangerous to everyone.
I just hope they vanish out of here so we dont have to take this to ourhands.............
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Barbaros,
I still go for the red rose,
lets stick together like Butch and Cassidy, Starksy and Hutch, Bonnie and Clyde , Simon and Garfunkel,........
Forget about the last one, but you get my drift?right..
We are grown ups guys and at this age you're on ya own....
Buba I am not making fun of ya, but its like this sad but true.....
dont send me a telex later like:
Tried your style STOP, You\'re mother is death STOP, F..k you\'re style STOP
I still go for the red rose,
lets stick together like Butch and Cassidy, Starksy and Hutch, Bonnie and Clyde , Simon and Garfunkel,........
Forget about the last one, but you get my drift?right..
We are grown ups guys and at this age you're on ya own....
Buba I am not making fun of ya, but its like this sad but true.....
dont send me a telex later like:
Tried your style STOP, You\'re mother is death STOP, F..k you\'re style STOP
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WhisperNG where were your union ideas when they were pushing people to leave before????
Also they didnt want to go but were standing alone when pushed away.
Hope u ll have more luck, then them.
Also they didnt want to go but were standing alone when pushed away.
Hope u ll have more luck, then them.
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The nice thing is that most of the B738 TRES are on the B 757 now. They have 5 TRES on one 757 but only a few left on 737. Right now they have difficulties to do their own Recurrent training forget Transitions.What a ****y siuatuation!!!!! This was a calculated thing by the 76 mafia. And General P. just accepted it. What kind of general r u?
With this action they brought themselves in an irreplaceable postion.
With this action they brought themselves in an irreplaceable postion.
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Housewife,
I was all the time here when people forced to go.,believe or not I did everything I could to stop it.I've argued with these guys (76'),I've shout Kal... in his room,I've talked with P.S. and Human Resource Dep. As a matter of fact nobody told me that they will be leaving and even if they told me I wouldn't be able to stop them.I was only one and could change nothing.Now please nobody blame each other again personally,at least here.We are all guilty because we didn't get united.It is time to raise and build up a power against these blood suc.ers.
I was all the time here when people forced to go.,believe or not I did everything I could to stop it.I've argued with these guys (76'),I've shout Kal... in his room,I've talked with P.S. and Human Resource Dep. As a matter of fact nobody told me that they will be leaving and even if they told me I wouldn't be able to stop them.I was only one and could change nothing.Now please nobody blame each other again personally,at least here.We are all guilty because we didn't get united.It is time to raise and build up a power against these blood suc.ers.
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Whisper brother and all other brothers,
I fully agree with you. Everybody did his own job. I don care, everybody has its own contract!!! THAY WAS A BIG MISTAKE .BUT NOW WE HAVE TO GET TOGETHER AND FIGHT TOGETHER AGAINST THIS CANCER.
WE HAVE TO STOP THIS A..LICKIN. GANG. WE ALL KNOW THEY ARE INCOMPETENT AND DANGEROUS.
I fully agree with you. Everybody did his own job. I don care, everybody has its own contract!!! THAY WAS A BIG MISTAKE .BUT NOW WE HAVE TO GET TOGETHER AND FIGHT TOGETHER AGAINST THIS CANCER.
WE HAVE TO STOP THIS A..LICKIN. GANG. WE ALL KNOW THEY ARE INCOMPETENT AND DANGEROUS.
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Whisper,
regarding your reply to housewife:
You knew like every single one of all the pilots in sxs knew that people would leave. We all had our own motivations not to interfere in the at that time ongoing happenings. The motivations varied from:
- expendables leaving sxs,
- personal hatred (gitsin s.r.fs.z),
- O thats great now I will be higher on the seniority list,
- Yes and for the next plane I will be cpt if I can lick fast enough,
- etc. etc.etc.
and I know for a fact that you knew about some of these guys leaving.
Who, tell me who has shed a tear when O.T. from rostering was removed in order that C. S.ssiz could take his place. WRONG this guy is actually a 76ers(C.S.).
Whom of us has looked in the matter that V.Y.(head dispatch)just
decided not to show up the next day and refused to talk to P.S.?
Because he too had to make place for one of their guys.
Now and this is human nature, personal interests are being involved.
Now it all has backfired and here we are.......begging for help.
People get what they deserve, and get managed the way they deserve this. I accepted this long ago.
But I still would go for the red rose, it is the best option for now
heheh
regarding your reply to housewife:
You knew like every single one of all the pilots in sxs knew that people would leave. We all had our own motivations not to interfere in the at that time ongoing happenings. The motivations varied from:
- expendables leaving sxs,
- personal hatred (gitsin s.r.fs.z),
- O thats great now I will be higher on the seniority list,
- Yes and for the next plane I will be cpt if I can lick fast enough,
- etc. etc.etc.
and I know for a fact that you knew about some of these guys leaving.
Who, tell me who has shed a tear when O.T. from rostering was removed in order that C. S.ssiz could take his place. WRONG this guy is actually a 76ers(C.S.).
Whom of us has looked in the matter that V.Y.(head dispatch)just
decided not to show up the next day and refused to talk to P.S.?
Because he too had to make place for one of their guys.
Now and this is human nature, personal interests are being involved.
Now it all has backfired and here we are.......begging for help.
People get what they deserve, and get managed the way they deserve this. I accepted this long ago.
But I still would go for the red rose, it is the best option for now
heheh
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Boeingrestricted,
I am having hard time to understand your intentions.I don't give a f.ck about seniority list ,these guys who left the company are my friends and always will be.Of course I've guessed they would go.Take the pilots list in your hands,and look for the civilian pilots,and tell me which one of them has a future in this company and why would they stay.They will definitely go and this just a matter of time.
Each one of us guilty,we could stand against them if we were united.After the new upgrade procedure Haineken made a meeting for FOs,we argued big time and at the end he asked us with hate 'who is really disturbed from this procedure? Raise your hands'.How many of military origin FOs raised hands do u know? Were u there? NONE!
And by the way I have no idea what u mean with that red rose ****,I guess u are visiting a wrong site if u are looking for a red rose !
Everybody here :
Stop bull****,stop accusing me and each other,stop this hate to each other or I am out of here.And this is just how we loose friends and allies !
I am having hard time to understand your intentions.I don't give a f.ck about seniority list ,these guys who left the company are my friends and always will be.Of course I've guessed they would go.Take the pilots list in your hands,and look for the civilian pilots,and tell me which one of them has a future in this company and why would they stay.They will definitely go and this just a matter of time.
Each one of us guilty,we could stand against them if we were united.After the new upgrade procedure Haineken made a meeting for FOs,we argued big time and at the end he asked us with hate 'who is really disturbed from this procedure? Raise your hands'.How many of military origin FOs raised hands do u know? Were u there? NONE!
And by the way I have no idea what u mean with that red rose ****,I guess u are visiting a wrong site if u are looking for a red rose !
Everybody here :
Stop bull****,stop accusing me and each other,stop this hate to each other or I am out of here.And this is just how we loose friends and allies !
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The rose thing is a joke.
I am not accusing anyone, I am trying to indicate the situation.
how it was and how it became aggrevated trough time.
SXS has passed its point at which it could be reversed to a healthy company were everyone could live together in harmony
(like in the past).
Just 2/3 weeks ago another one left. WHAT DID ANYONE WITH POWER DO?................nothing.
as a civilian pilot you are doomed !in sxs.
none of the military guys give a **** about it, most of them having their son waiting to take your place.
Now its waiting for your turn, when will it happen to me.
Like I said everyone has his motivations, and maybe it is ignorance. I dont know..........
but its not ignorance from my side. Or from another individual
I am not accusing anyone, I am trying to indicate the situation.
how it was and how it became aggrevated trough time.
SXS has passed its point at which it could be reversed to a healthy company were everyone could live together in harmony
(like in the past).
Just 2/3 weeks ago another one left. WHAT DID ANYONE WITH POWER DO?................nothing.
as a civilian pilot you are doomed !in sxs.
none of the military guys give a **** about it, most of them having their son waiting to take your place.
Now its waiting for your turn, when will it happen to me.
Like I said everyone has his motivations, and maybe it is ignorance. I dont know..........
but its not ignorance from my side. Or from another individual
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I know from friends that most of Sun Express pilots are close to their Flight Time Limits ( Beginning of NOV ????) A few guys are at 950 hours.
ALL OF YOU COMMIT A CRIMINAL OFFENCE IF YOU EXCEED THE LIMITS.
BE AWARE OF THAT.
DONT LET THE 76 GANG OR THE GENERAL PUT YOU UNDER PRESSURE.
ALL OF YOU COMMIT A CRIMINAL OFFENCE IF YOU EXCEED THE LIMITS.
BE AWARE OF THAT.
DONT LET THE 76 GANG OR THE GENERAL PUT YOU UNDER PRESSURE.