Changes at ETIHAD?
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OK puppet-master, let's resume:
Quality to Etihad is how many words you can type per minute, as you even want pilots to try that aswell.
Quality means to Etihad, that one man makes all the decisions concerning upgrades, instruction and recruitement. Probably he also runs the CRM show all alone.
Crisis management to Etihad means counting on a man who apparently works almost 19h duty on a commercial passenger jet.
Again: EY comes closer and closer to CRX, you couldn’t have descibed it better.
Quality to Etihad is how many words you can type per minute, as you even want pilots to try that aswell.
Quality means to Etihad, that one man makes all the decisions concerning upgrades, instruction and recruitement. Probably he also runs the CRM show all alone.
Crisis management to Etihad means counting on a man who apparently works almost 19h duty on a commercial passenger jet.
Again: EY comes closer and closer to CRX, you couldn’t have descibed it better.
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Well the 19 hrs duty is a fact. I'm sure they got the blessing from GCAA. It must have been a pilot program to see whether Etihad pilots were better than the rest of the world. Well B & W proved it could be done and now looking at 21 hrs duty in the near future. Training dept is basically NOT needed as we recruit the best of the best. These pilots DO NOT need any training. Just a few sorties around the dunes and TopGun is itching to fly. GR is the watch DOG. He assures that quality is never compromise. Ask any of the FO how good the DOG is. Yes come to Etihad and you will feel like you NEVER left Germany.
Well the 19 hrs duty is a fact. I'm sure they got the blessing from GCAA. It must have been a pilot program to see whether Etihad pilots were better than the rest of the world. Well B & W proved it could be done and now looking at 21 hrs duty in the near future. Training dept is basically NOT needed as we recruit the best of the best. These pilots DO NOT need any training. Just a few sorties around the dunes and TopGun is itching to fly. GR is the watch DOG. He assures that quality is never compromise. Ask any of the FO how good the DOG is. Yes come to Etihad and you will feel like you NEVER left Germany.
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super pilot's...godlike..
"why have you gone so quiet haven't got a leg to stand on Kuranja have you"....going little senile there are we buddy ? modified your post several times...life on the pprune...try to get some....and btw its kuronja with big O for you and a third leg to stand on.
I have to agree that 21 hr duty day is maybe a bit long but we are all enthusiasting about it since we can fly ...see the world and maybe please the Gods ....get closer to them.....off to a belly dancing class...or should i get another beer so i look better in my outfit..just have to shave those legs
I have to agree that 21 hr duty day is maybe a bit long but we are all enthusiasting about it since we can fly ...see the world and maybe please the Gods ....get closer to them.....off to a belly dancing class...or should i get another beer so i look better in my outfit..just have to shave those legs
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Changes at ETIHAD?
Lets go back to the thread itself. Are there any changes instead of the mud slinging?
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Today's losers
may be tomorrow's winners... What goes around comes around, and it's usually true.
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I am a pilot who was Bused out to Abu Dhabi last week, for an interview...(NOT with Etihad.) The LHR-Abu Dhabi flight was on time, with very good cabin service in Club. The entire experience was excellent, IFE was good, (apart from the seat belts on early, and removal of IFE before TOD), the landing was so smooth I though it was one of mine.....My only little niggle was the lack of ground support upon arrival, trying to locate the limo service was a problem.. There was only one youngish lady in 1st, and 8 of us in Club.
The return flight a week later was in 1st, with just 2 of us. Originally 1 in club and 1 in first. I managed to suggest to the crew that it would be easier for them if they bumped me to first......!!!!!!!!!!
The service was very good, but not much better than club, on the outbound...the landing at LHR apart from being 30 mins early, was also soooo smooth.....if thats after a 18 hour day I was impressed.
Only complaint: the first class cabin crew were very nice but not up to what I would consider "silver service" standard.
As an aside, the Emirates service at the same time ex LGW was delayed 6 hours, without explanation, and was very very full, on both sectors.
I am available to consult on the expected standards in the first class cabin, at a nominal fee.
Windy.
The return flight a week later was in 1st, with just 2 of us. Originally 1 in club and 1 in first. I managed to suggest to the crew that it would be easier for them if they bumped me to first......!!!!!!!!!!
The service was very good, but not much better than club, on the outbound...the landing at LHR apart from being 30 mins early, was also soooo smooth.....if thats after a 18 hour day I was impressed.
Only complaint: the first class cabin crew were very nice but not up to what I would consider "silver service" standard.
As an aside, the Emirates service at the same time ex LGW was delayed 6 hours, without explanation, and was very very full, on both sectors.
I am available to consult on the expected standards in the first class cabin, at a nominal fee.
Windy.
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Ridiculous threads require ridiculous responses since we have few baboons on this forum who will identify themselfs in the following replies.
They obviously don't want to discuss the issues but rather stir the s...t ...so what's the point for any meaningful conversation.
Insults and accusations ..... it's kindergarden
Off to Cellar Bar the only Cellar above the ground
They obviously don't want to discuss the issues but rather stir the s...t ...so what's the point for any meaningful conversation.
Insults and accusations ..... it's kindergarden
Off to Cellar Bar the only Cellar above the ground
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HI Rieke
your story is absolut true. The german management guys were
ex undercover policemen in frankfurt and stuttgart (south germany)many years ago and i guess they learned there job very well. What i also heard from my friend (ex Volare pilot) that one of the german managem. guys (WB)was fired by postholder of Operations Mario Vitali(VOLARE) caused by several incidents/accid. Airbus 330 in Mombassa(Kenia) and Milan(Italy). Some of the italien copilots applied for Etihad involved in mombassa and milan~ desaster but refused by the germans(WB,GR)
The undercover is still working
your story is absolut true. The german management guys were
ex undercover policemen in frankfurt and stuttgart (south germany)many years ago and i guess they learned there job very well. What i also heard from my friend (ex Volare pilot) that one of the german managem. guys (WB)was fired by postholder of Operations Mario Vitali(VOLARE) caused by several incidents/accid. Airbus 330 in Mombassa(Kenia) and Milan(Italy). Some of the italien copilots applied for Etihad involved in mombassa and milan~ desaster but refused by the germans(WB,GR)
The undercover is still working
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CIAO A TUTTI!!
A big rumour from a friend of mine who has been flying with Volare (an ex Italian company) says that an Etihad Quality Manager, (who is an ex Volare pilot too) is performing his managing role with out any previous QM experience. He has been flying as a Captain with FTI, an ex charter company in Europe, then he went to Volare as a captain. Afterwards he joined Etihad Airways as one of the Pioneers.
I heard he falsified his own Notification Letter, signed and stamped by somebody else, saying that he had been Quality Manager before in FTI. Etihad's Flight Manegement was aware of the truth discrepancies in the document.
He sent the paper with his misrepresented CV to the UAE FAA and they accepted the document with out checking the person's background and they immediately approved him as Quality Manager.
INCREDIBILE!!!CHE CASINO E QUELLO!!!
This QM asked an italien guy his name is XXXXXXXXXXXXXX to join ETIHAD AIRWAYS Flightmanagement.
He was involved in LAUDA ITALY(LIVINGSTON) Flightmanagement too and is a guy who broke many many rules and laws in Italien Airline business e.x. Flight Duty Times/ not adhearing the MEL/etc,etc,etc
He dismissed pilots who did not accept his leading who wanted to follow the rules and very importent he implemented fear. The management changed and the new managers was asking him to resign otherwise the managment were forced to dismiss him.
Why is ETIHAD AIRWAYS QUALITY MANAGER and his team not checking the background of those ex LAUDA ITALY MAFIA HARDLINERS????? or is LUUFTWAFE involved to implement italien structure in Etihad as well???
UN ALTRO ESEMPIO...
I also heard that Head of Etihad is also an A-340 pilot and only German pilots are allowed to fly with him in the simulator, as requested by the Flight Management. I guess no other nationalities can cope with that.
So, in one case the head of Etihad had an A-340 simulator checkright with a co-pilot who had never flown an A-340 before, why did the examiner accept this?
CHE RAZZA DI CORRUZIONE E QUELLA!!!
The Head of Etihad is most likely not guilty as he has to trust in his management and the screening process and trust that his pilots obey the rules and laws. In this case I guess some guys did not folllow that and they have been misleading him.
The big question is why the examiner and the co-pilot did not mention the man before? Did they hide anything?
E LA CONFUSIONE CONTINUA!!!
Names removed 4HP
A big rumour from a friend of mine who has been flying with Volare (an ex Italian company) says that an Etihad Quality Manager, (who is an ex Volare pilot too) is performing his managing role with out any previous QM experience. He has been flying as a Captain with FTI, an ex charter company in Europe, then he went to Volare as a captain. Afterwards he joined Etihad Airways as one of the Pioneers.
I heard he falsified his own Notification Letter, signed and stamped by somebody else, saying that he had been Quality Manager before in FTI. Etihad's Flight Manegement was aware of the truth discrepancies in the document.
He sent the paper with his misrepresented CV to the UAE FAA and they accepted the document with out checking the person's background and they immediately approved him as Quality Manager.
INCREDIBILE!!!CHE CASINO E QUELLO!!!
This QM asked an italien guy his name is XXXXXXXXXXXXXX to join ETIHAD AIRWAYS Flightmanagement.
He was involved in LAUDA ITALY(LIVINGSTON) Flightmanagement too and is a guy who broke many many rules and laws in Italien Airline business e.x. Flight Duty Times/ not adhearing the MEL/etc,etc,etc
He dismissed pilots who did not accept his leading who wanted to follow the rules and very importent he implemented fear. The management changed and the new managers was asking him to resign otherwise the managment were forced to dismiss him.
Why is ETIHAD AIRWAYS QUALITY MANAGER and his team not checking the background of those ex LAUDA ITALY MAFIA HARDLINERS????? or is LUUFTWAFE involved to implement italien structure in Etihad as well???
UN ALTRO ESEMPIO...
I also heard that Head of Etihad is also an A-340 pilot and only German pilots are allowed to fly with him in the simulator, as requested by the Flight Management. I guess no other nationalities can cope with that.
So, in one case the head of Etihad had an A-340 simulator checkright with a co-pilot who had never flown an A-340 before, why did the examiner accept this?
CHE RAZZA DI CORRUZIONE E QUELLA!!!
The Head of Etihad is most likely not guilty as he has to trust in his management and the screening process and trust that his pilots obey the rules and laws. In this case I guess some guys did not folllow that and they have been misleading him.
The big question is why the examiner and the co-pilot did not mention the man before? Did they hide anything?
E LA CONFUSIONE CONTINUA!!!
Names removed 4HP
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Welcome to CROSSAIR - MIDDLE EAST!
Just be aware that with these clowns up in training and management, your licences might trigger just a mild laugh when you want to reapply back up north one day.
Just be aware that with these clowns up in training and management, your licences might trigger just a mild laugh when you want to reapply back up north one day.
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