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Emirates Latest Fleet Newsletter
In the recent fleet news, Chris Peet stated, with regard to the new bidding system, that "To some of you this may be a welcome step forward, to others the reverse may be true."
Could we please start to email Mr. Peet and tell him of the mess he has created? In a year I have yet to meet those pilots who find it a welcome step forward.
email him now and let him know how tired and unhappy we really are and how it is affecting our family lives. Also ask why there are still manual insertion of reserve days?
[email protected]
As for the rest of the rhetoric....
Could we please start to email Mr. Peet and tell him of the mess he has created? In a year I have yet to meet those pilots who find it a welcome step forward.
email him now and let him know how tired and unhappy we really are and how it is affecting our family lives. Also ask why there are still manual insertion of reserve days?
[email protected]
As for the rest of the rhetoric....
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You will achieve...
...two years of not getting profit share and your command delayed???
Forgive my cynicism but this lot will do what they want, when they want and still dress it up like it's to our benefit. You want to change Emirates? LEAVE!!. It's the only thing they'll understand.
Forgive my cynicism but this lot will do what they want, when they want and still dress it up like it's to our benefit. You want to change Emirates? LEAVE!!. It's the only thing they'll understand.
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I totally agree...
If you dont like EK...leave. After all, we will all leave sooner or later. There are thousands of pilots that want to come here. EK salary may not be much in your or my country, but for a pilot from a less expensive country its a fortune!
Dont put your hopes up for a mega payrise..aint coming if you ask me.
If you dont like EK...leave. After all, we will all leave sooner or later. There are thousands of pilots that want to come here. EK salary may not be much in your or my country, but for a pilot from a less expensive country its a fortune!
Dont put your hopes up for a mega payrise..aint coming if you ask me.
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I have to say that I see both sides of the argument raised here. i.e. If you don't like it leave, or if you want to do something about it then do it.
I remember when the comapny raised the command requirement to a very unrealistic level. Enough of us put our collective voices together and who heard? None other than Sheikh Ahmed himself. Did things change? Yes, they did.
Regarding loss of profit share etc. I cannot see that the company will penalise anyone for having voiced their opinions regarding this new bidding system. I believe the originaly intent of the first post was to just show the company just how unhappy we all are with the new bidding system. At the moment they seem to think that we are split down the middle but I too have not flown with anyone who thinks it's a 'step forward.'
But with regards to the rest of the newsletter, at least they're trying, even if it is just to tell us that there are 25 pilot applications a day coming in! Back to the supply and demand argument regarding a pay rise.
I remember when the comapny raised the command requirement to a very unrealistic level. Enough of us put our collective voices together and who heard? None other than Sheikh Ahmed himself. Did things change? Yes, they did.
Regarding loss of profit share etc. I cannot see that the company will penalise anyone for having voiced their opinions regarding this new bidding system. I believe the originaly intent of the first post was to just show the company just how unhappy we all are with the new bidding system. At the moment they seem to think that we are split down the middle but I too have not flown with anyone who thinks it's a 'step forward.'
But with regards to the rest of the newsletter, at least they're trying, even if it is just to tell us that there are 25 pilot applications a day coming in! Back to the supply and demand argument regarding a pay rise.
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Perhaps we should have an un official pole for both Chris Peet and John Howard. Lets vote for and against the new system. As it's COST NEUTRAL they should have no problem changing things back to the old way if the overall vote is against.
Some how I think not but for the record my vote is AGAINST.
NT
Some how I think not but for the record my vote is AGAINST.
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The most interesting part about the "Dear colleague..." note was the missing information:
How many pilots have resigned, how many applicants don't come to the interview, how many selected candidates don't show up for joining, how many fatigue ASRs filed since December, etc, etc, etc....
How many pilots have resigned, how many applicants don't come to the interview, how many selected candidates don't show up for joining, how many fatigue ASRs filed since December, etc, etc, etc....
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Another interesting bit that was missing was how many of the 20-25 applications per day have anywhere near our actual requirements. Not that many i would guess judging by a few of the recent recruits.
I strongly suspect that whole front page was the first installment of "why we aren't going to get a pay rise" followed closely by "why we need to be more productive" i.e more work for same money.
I strongly suspect that whole front page was the first installment of "why we aren't going to get a pay rise" followed closely by "why we need to be more productive" i.e more work for same money.
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Our leader is a politician,now a proven fact.
Mr Peet,is deluding himself,if he thinks his excessive "explanation" fools anyone,outside his own office,simpler to say "we do not have enough pilots".
"20-25 applicants a day"??
Really??,are they PPL,CPL,ATPL??I very much doubt the quality of applicant is anywhere near that of the last few years.
Bottom line is,pilots are leaving,perhaps not in big numbers,and unless we get more,the problem will not go away.Many FOs looking,elsewhere,and that is EKs loss.
But,unless there is a dramatic improvement,in attitude,pay and prospects,things are not going to improve,IMHO of course.
QB
Mr Peet,is deluding himself,if he thinks his excessive "explanation" fools anyone,outside his own office,simpler to say "we do not have enough pilots".
"20-25 applicants a day"??
Really??,are they PPL,CPL,ATPL??I very much doubt the quality of applicant is anywhere near that of the last few years.
Bottom line is,pilots are leaving,perhaps not in big numbers,and unless we get more,the problem will not go away.Many FOs looking,elsewhere,and that is EKs loss.
But,unless there is a dramatic improvement,in attitude,pay and prospects,things are not going to improve,IMHO of course.
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So to sum up TCAS's editorial,
"Consider yourself lucky you have a job, you can be easily replaced, just look at all the American carriers that are going to go broke".
Well not much new there then, weren't we hearing that exact same crap from TCK 5 years ago.
I do love to be patronized just before I go to work, thanks Alan
"Consider yourself lucky you have a job, you can be easily replaced, just look at all the American carriers that are going to go broke".
Well not much new there then, weren't we hearing that exact same crap from TCK 5 years ago.
I do love to be patronized just before I go to work, thanks Alan
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Your kidding right. I have almost 6000hrs and a lot of B747 time. I have been trying and so have like 50 guys I know with similar time to get into Emirates.
There are lots of guys with lots of time and experience trying to get your job. Don't delude yourself into thinking it all low time PPLs.
There are lots of guys with lots of time and experience trying to get your job. Don't delude yourself into thinking it all low time PPLs.
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AAIGUY
Two more of 'our' jobs available as of last week, one captain and one F/O resigned. Pay your money, take your chance, and like the rest of us, 'Keep Discovering'.
By the way, was that front page just a cut and paste job from a TCK newsletter of about 3 years ago?
Two more of 'our' jobs available as of last week, one captain and one F/O resigned. Pay your money, take your chance, and like the rest of us, 'Keep Discovering'.
By the way, was that front page just a cut and paste job from a TCK newsletter of about 3 years ago?
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AAIGUY I am sure all your B744 time is great and I don't know why with all your experience you would want to leave your present job.
However, like all departments in EK the recruitment department are working very hard, and with a little nouse and a few emails you may be able to get an interview should you still wish after all that is written on this forum.I am sure they will get to your application as soon as they get through all the guys with 10000 hrs and 3000 hrs on A330/340/B777 and those 737's with the cool looking winglets.I imagine it has to do with being able to do a short transition.That's the way of the modern highly efficient airline.
However, like all departments in EK the recruitment department are working very hard, and with a little nouse and a few emails you may be able to get an interview should you still wish after all that is written on this forum.I am sure they will get to your application as soon as they get through all the guys with 10000 hrs and 3000 hrs on A330/340/B777 and those 737's with the cool looking winglets.I imagine it has to do with being able to do a short transition.That's the way of the modern highly efficient airline.
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Amen Dunerider,
I had over 12000, hrs on the Boeing A/C 727, 737, 757, 767 and was current on the A320 when hired at Emirates.
What ever it takes to get you thru the door of the training dept with the least cost to said Co, is what matters.
I had over 12000, hrs on the Boeing A/C 727, 737, 757, 767 and was current on the A320 when hired at Emirates.
What ever it takes to get you thru the door of the training dept with the least cost to said Co, is what matters.
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Exactly my point Dunerider. I don't expect to hear from Emirates anytime soon. There is a crap load of qualified pilots out there. Applicants are not the PPL and CPLs that are being suggested.
TFN. ( watch this space for some hard hitting facts soon )