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Old 25th Aug 2004, 17:17
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Well...

It's coming up to 2 weeks since the closing date for the applications. No news yet. Anyone have any leads, or "rumours" with what is going on?

Ah yes... the waiting game. Always fun.

Cedarjet, MEA321... any news from the inside?

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ODGUY and Concordino,
check your PM.

Cheers!
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Old 26th Aug 2004, 14:03
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Hey everyone...I just want to share my 2 cents with everyone on here...!

Most if not all of you are Lebanese so you know, as well as I do what a promise from companies in our country is worth! I'm not saying MEA lied, far from that...They will most likely call each person who applied since the number of applications was way below the expectations...!

I have spoken with my sources and this first selection seems to be on track although, for my part, I decided not to take join the process having been extremely disappointed by Info told to me/or read on this Forum...!

I would recommend not dropping anything you're doing at the moment. Don't get wrapped up in something that might end up being a big disappointment!

I have heard too many contradictory statements from my sources and the pure facts are just too saddening to hear!

I have a very good knowledge of the Lebanese AA, the MEA environment & the surrounding Aviation scene...!

Just be careful with what you're told and if what you were waiting for comes up than best of Luck!!

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Old 26th Aug 2004, 21:11
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The way this thread has been going is very strange in a way, much like the MEA selection for those of you who applied and been to Beyrut to submit their papers.

I am with flagada's point of view with regards to keeping tight for those in jobs already, yet on the other hand i think very few of those who applied have stable piloting jobs.

CedarJet and MEA320 seem to be in the know of things and thus would love to see them share as much objective info on the matter.

Till again patience and a bucket full of it too.
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Old 27th Aug 2004, 00:45
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Gentleman, gentleman,

How about everyone put everything they know into the open. It will be very helpful in making decisions. No?

And you're right... here's to buckets of patience!

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Old 27th Aug 2004, 02:48
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Gentlemen,

I want to wish the best of luck to those potential Cadets who are currently under review at MEA - Air Liban.

I will support Flagada's advice and say that those who did apply should not put all of their hope on MEA now because unfortunately some applications will be rejected. The chances may seem very promising, knowing that there is a shortage of pilots at MEA.

The selection process is very involved and needs time. Each application is given special consideration. By now the phone calls might be going out for the next round of group interviews and I have heard about an IR check abroad. This will all happen soon.

At last check, 38 applied (currently under selection).

Best of luck to everyone.
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Gentleman, gentleman,

How about everyone put everything they know into the open. It will be very helpful in making decisions. No?

And you're right... here's to buckets of patience!

OD-AFA
Hello,

This is the initial info that my sources S. Geha & O. Balaa forwarded me when I expressed my interest.

___________________________________________________

Flight Crew (Pilots)

Middle East Airlines AirLiban is inciting applications from highly motivated personnel for the position of Pilot
(First Officer).

Applicants must meet the following minimum requirements:

I. Lebanese national
2- Have completed the Lebanese military service or have an official final exemption in that respect
3- Maximum age 32 years
4- Lebanese Baccalaureate, Second Part, or equivalent, Higher education is an asset
5- Holder of ICAO approved Airline Transport Pilot's Licence (ATPL) - fixed wing, obtained without
exemptions with passes in all ground examinations from top ranked approved and internationally
recognised pilot training organisations
6- Holder of the following technical and medical cartificates; a valid Multi Engine Instrument Rating (IR).
Aeronautical Radiotelephony Licence. and a current Lebanese Class One Medical
7- Multi Crew Cooperation Course certificate
8- Airbus 320 famlv type rating is an asset
9- Fluent in English spocken and written
10- Minimum height 153 cm Weight proportional to height
11- Basic computer skills
12- Suitable candidates will be required to undergo aptitude. personality, medical and licensing exams and evaluations in Lebanon and abroad. The cost of these exams and all expenses will be borne by the applicant ,

Applicants must report in person upon an appointment to the Technical Departrnent at MAE Head Quarters, Airport Road, Beirut until August 13th , 2O04 accompanied by the fallowing documents (originals and copies):
1. Recent CV
2. Lebanese identification card or passport
3. Lebanese judicial record
4. Military exemption or completion
5. Lebanese medical examination certificate signed by a Lehanese medical examiner
6- Flying Licence
7- University or other educational certificate(s) or degree(s) with record of grades
8- Flying school certificates and / or diplomas
9- Flying school records and grades
10- Log book. Copies of 1" page and last 10 pages
11- 6 recent passport size pictures in colour
12- 2 letters of reference

For appointments and information please contact the following telephone numbers between 10 am and 2 pm: 01 628888 ext. 22742 or 22919 / 01 622742 / 01 522919

___________________________________________________

I know very well Capt Balaa and Geha and to be honest, I have never had the same song sung to me twice...They always find a new melody...I know their surroundings like T.H, A.C, N.A etc. and I have learned to be careful even with friends.

Two years ago, when the hiring was decided, I was there with them and was told that if I was interested, I should forward my documents... So for you guys who think 2 weeks is a wait!!! It took me 2 years of sitting around...At that time, I was extremely interested because I was told that the salary was averaging the 6000 $US & only a slim part of the training would be taken off the salary as a bond...!

I was also "working" for Bsat Rih Air. Actually, that ended up being just another waiting game since I never saw the Metro III
take off...

I now work in a much better position and frankly can't see myself going to MEA. They called me numerous times and the requirements and benefits for the job seemed to follow greatly my willingness to join MEA curve...

I also know that if Lebanese don't meet the requirements, then they'll dig and hire foreigners...! The Cadet programme is on track although it's the same story, some major budget cuts will make it less interesting for future hires...

Cheers
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Old 27th Aug 2004, 14:25
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Flagada,

Thanks for all the info. It's nice to get someones actual experience with the company, vs. rumours.

OD-AFA

P.S. Has anyone received a phone-call yet? Only reason I ask is that one of my colleagues (an unreliable source though) said he was contacted earlier today.

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Old 28th Aug 2004, 10:20
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About calls,

I got one on monday asking for more papers, i must have gotten used to it by now with all the procedure etc etc...

Meanwhile I am in the stack waiting for an EAT or might be diverting...

Keep it coming Ya Chabab.

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Old 28th Aug 2004, 16:21
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I'm rather happy that there are so many Lebanese pilots out there. I was the only one in my class when I completed my training, and I've only bumped into two Lebanese pilots in the last few years.

As for the phone-calls... mmmmMMMmmm... I'm not sure if it's a good or a bad sign. Has anyone called MEA to find out if the selections have already been completed?

I'm with you on this one Concordino. We may have to pick a higher flight-level for this hold.

I'm really curious... could we have a poll on this following question... How many of the people in this message thread live in Lebanon, or are currently in Lebanon for the Summer?

Like Conordino said, keep it coming boys, any information makes the wait more bearable.

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Old 31st Aug 2004, 23:40
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Hello guys and girls,

I found it my duty to get this post going again!

So any news? Common spit it out! I called earlier yesterday and wasn't very lucky in getting any information. It seems like things are being kept under wraps rather tightly.

Keep on trucking,

OD-AFA

P.S. Anyone living out on the West-Coast (ie: Vancouver)? I think a beer-call is in order!
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Old 1st Sep 2004, 02:18
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Hard to believe no one has heard anything. Or that they were told to wait some more at least!!! OD-AFA, I'm in Vancouver, let me know...
Yalla chabeb...
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Old 1st Sep 2004, 13:49
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I'm with you on this one bcqc. This is turning into an episode from the "Twilight Zone"... popcorn anyone?

OD-AFA

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Old 4th Sep 2004, 15:03
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Hello All

I wonder if the recent political events in Lebanon are having anything to do with the MEA's recruitment process.

On the other hand does anyone know contacts for the Lebanese Pilot Association (syndicate or union). Do they have a website ?
any contacts ?

Cheers
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Old 4th Sep 2004, 21:17
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I don't really follow the news in Lebanon. What is happening, as far the political side of things? How would it affect hiring at MEA?

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Old 7th Sep 2004, 18:41
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SNAM,

if they follow their requirements, it shouldn't be possible.. But you never know..

In addition, why would a foreign pilot apply with such bad conditions.. You'll tell me cause it's better than being unemployed annd to build up hours which for me is a valid reason but then you get bonded for 5 years.

Honnestly I wouldn't..

Cheers!
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Old 7th Sep 2004, 19:08
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Gents,

Any rumours about what is happening next? Any dates for the phone-calls.

Cheers,

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Old 8th Sep 2004, 08:38
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5 years experience?

First you have to speak in terms of hours and second, 5 years at MEA won't get you much of those anyway...!

My 0.02€

Sorry, no news on my side...

Reference to offensive language deleted. 4HP

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Old 8th Sep 2004, 15:11
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folks, 5 years at mea isnt getting you many hrs.
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Friend has Applied in Person

Hello,

A good friend of mine has just left Montreal and heading to Beirut for a series of tests. He is 23 years old, holds an ATL but with no experience. He told me his chances are good but dont recall exactly why. I wish him the best of luck.

canileb, would you mind telling me where you work and in which country? I follow the Nigerian aviation industry closely...

Thanks..
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