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Hello guys On May I´m going to interview with Etihad and I´m trying also to match with AA. Any advisory about both companies? As I´m reading the grass looks greener on AA.
I´m a FO 6200TT 2000A320 currently working on the fareast
I´m a FO 6200TT 2000A320 currently working on the fareast
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Hi Horsethief
!!!Didi you go to AAi nterview?? I'm gonna go in July..
Can you give some tips??How was it???
How was your feelings regarding the company??Did you like??
Tks and nice Flights...
green01
!!!Didi you go to AAi nterview?? I'm gonna go in July..
Can you give some tips??How was it???
How was your feelings regarding the company??Did you like??
Tks and nice Flights...
green01
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Moving to Sharjah!
Greetings,
I've just got the call and was informed that I was selected and will be joining Air Arabia in July!!! YES!!!
As this is our first time moving to the Middle East I am seeking any info on Sharjah and the surrounding area from those of you who have made the move already, any help would be gladly appreciated.
Info requesting.
1. Where is the best area to find a 2-3-bedroom flat/villa within 15-20 min from the Sharjah Airport?
2. What would a 2 or 3 bedroom flat/villa cost per month/year average and what is required to move in, down payment amount, time frame etc, getting satellite/internet connection?
3. International schools? Are any of the school's in the area better then the other, the cost per year and would the allowance amount cover the school cost? we are moving from the Uk with a 5 and 7 year old
4.Buying a car/getting a driver’s license? What is that process like and how long is it?
Thanks a million
cant wait to get there............
I've just got the call and was informed that I was selected and will be joining Air Arabia in July!!! YES!!!
As this is our first time moving to the Middle East I am seeking any info on Sharjah and the surrounding area from those of you who have made the move already, any help would be gladly appreciated.
Info requesting.
1. Where is the best area to find a 2-3-bedroom flat/villa within 15-20 min from the Sharjah Airport?
2. What would a 2 or 3 bedroom flat/villa cost per month/year average and what is required to move in, down payment amount, time frame etc, getting satellite/internet connection?
3. International schools? Are any of the school's in the area better then the other, the cost per year and would the allowance amount cover the school cost? we are moving from the Uk with a 5 and 7 year old
4.Buying a car/getting a driver’s license? What is that process like and how long is it?
Thanks a million
cant wait to get there............
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Hey Wild Weasle
First of all thanks for your excellent and interesting postings (took me a night to read them all) Just one open question what do you mean with 8-5 / 6-9 rosters you mentioned earlier??? Confused!!! I am on 332/343 and seriously consider joining AA..Many thanks and keep on writing
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Hey Chuch416:
Hey Chuch416:
I have to be honest, I don’t understand SIC. For me SIC means Second Officer or FE and I am sure you are not old enough to know (or use) that terminology
Now for your DEC qualifications? I do not know what you mean by SIC? Is this PIC time? If it is you can get a job as Captain in 24 hours – we need to hire hundreds. If it is F/O time well then you would probably come on (in 24 hours) as a F/O. If it is second officer or flight engineer time – training time - well you may have a problem.
Now for ABY! With the new pay scale it is a well paid job. It is possible for a Captain to make $16-$17K a month. YES it is hard flying, very hard and you do not have the life you would have at EK or EY but you can make the cash – if that is what you want! The negative is that you will make $13K whether you want to or not – we fly hard. However, a new hired Capt with a couple thousand hours in the left seat will make $11K a month while on vacation for 30 days and not flying 1 hour.
The future of the company is – well a crystal ball. Currently we have 14-15 planes (I don't know if "November" came yet,) but when I came here we had 2. We have about 200 pilots now with hiring plans for hundreds more by Jan 2010. 34 planes are on the books by 2012-14 but that is already exceeded. We are picking up planes from Vueling all the time - we bought 4 from them the last few months that were not in ABY’s plans 12 months ago.
Now your statement implies you have been around for a while. Yes it is not bad for kids and the school allowance is only a 100K a year and inflation is crazy. But what do you want? If you have the PIC time I personally believe (and that is all it is, my belief) you can get hired ASAP – but remember it will never be NWA!
Burners and Out!
I have to be honest, I don’t understand SIC. For me SIC means Second Officer or FE and I am sure you are not old enough to know (or use) that terminology
Now for your DEC qualifications? I do not know what you mean by SIC? Is this PIC time? If it is you can get a job as Captain in 24 hours – we need to hire hundreds. If it is F/O time well then you would probably come on (in 24 hours) as a F/O. If it is second officer or flight engineer time – training time - well you may have a problem.
Now for ABY! With the new pay scale it is a well paid job. It is possible for a Captain to make $16-$17K a month. YES it is hard flying, very hard and you do not have the life you would have at EK or EY but you can make the cash – if that is what you want! The negative is that you will make $13K whether you want to or not – we fly hard. However, a new hired Capt with a couple thousand hours in the left seat will make $11K a month while on vacation for 30 days and not flying 1 hour.
The future of the company is – well a crystal ball. Currently we have 14-15 planes (I don't know if "November" came yet,) but when I came here we had 2. We have about 200 pilots now with hiring plans for hundreds more by Jan 2010. 34 planes are on the books by 2012-14 but that is already exceeded. We are picking up planes from Vueling all the time - we bought 4 from them the last few months that were not in ABY’s plans 12 months ago.
Now your statement implies you have been around for a while. Yes it is not bad for kids and the school allowance is only a 100K a year and inflation is crazy. But what do you want? If you have the PIC time I personally believe (and that is all it is, my belief) you can get hired ASAP – but remember it will never be NWA!
Burners and Out!
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Big Lou - that tiny fart!
Hey A320PLT:
You say “Big Lou!” He is smaller, lighter, and uglier than me. We pushed back a few at the OBAP meeting back in Detroit in 1989 and have never looked back. Ask him about that ebony beauty I chased for about 4 hours, only to find out – well ask him?
Come on board – we are a diverse group that like Lou's bunch at SWA in 72 are trying to do the same
B&O
You say “Big Lou!” He is smaller, lighter, and uglier than me. We pushed back a few at the OBAP meeting back in Detroit in 1989 and have never looked back. Ask him about that ebony beauty I chased for about 4 hours, only to find out – well ask him?
Come on board – we are a diverse group that like Lou's bunch at SWA in 72 are trying to do the same
B&O
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Come on Down!
Hey guys:
I come on and see tons of messages asking questions: I apologize to all of you. I can not answer all individually for, while being a pilot, I do have a life
For those of you that have an interview study; for those of you that had one – you know what you need. ABY is a great place, far better than EK or EY. NO you will not fly an A-380 here but a plane is a plane – show me the money! True we are getting bigger and that creates the problems with knowing each other, scheduling and operations; but it is still fun. When it is not I will be the first to tell the forum it is not!
I was fortunate to go through the growth of the 70s and 80s in the USA. That was a great time. Upgrades in 2-3 years. Well few of us have that opportunity to experience that in a lifetime not alone twice in the same lifetime. It is happening here and guys, it may change, but it is happening right now. Every day we go to work and something new (GREAT) is announced. The company made $100 million last quarter or we are buying 3 planes from ABC airlines (I believe we have more planes from Vueling than they have.)
Yes, yes, yes we complain about the schedule (roster) and the flying (I have 99 hours in June) but we never complain about the cash. My 99 hours pays 132 hours or about $5,200 above my guarantee ($12,000) not including per diem [which we don’t spend since we do day trips ($410)]!
Now think about this! We are allowed to fly 900 hours a year. Please multiply 99 hours in one month by 12 months? That’s right – you will fly about 8.5 – 9 HARD months a year and then what? Oh my gosh, I have to take 2-3 months off.
Yes assuming you take no vacation (45 days a year off) you will run out of time in 9-10 months unless you "slow down" the flying when you get close - it does happen. Take vacation during the year and it may extend the time you fly a year - your monthly time may decrease. Not necessarily, for this month I personally took 14 days leave (18 days off,) flew 72 hard hours (about 5+ hours a day) and got paid 91 hours.
Now I know guys will say you have to fly 30 days a month to make the big bucks. I suggest to those of you that believe that, you simply go to Airarabia.com and look at the schedule. You fly a Colombo, Sri Lanka out and back and it takes you 9 hours but you get paid 13.5 hours. Now don’t get your draws up for this is not the only flight. Over half of our flights are like this and pay 10.5 hours for a 6:15 flight or 12 hours for 7:25…etc!
So do the math – you are pilots – well pilots are bad at math but you are very good at cash. Math is cash and you fly 1 flight for 8 hours block (much more pay) and you have 96 hours over a 12 day period! Oh my gosh, I’m out of time in 9 months!
It works guys, hope to see you on the line. But as Dennis Miller says: “Then again I could be wrong!”
B&O
I come on and see tons of messages asking questions: I apologize to all of you. I can not answer all individually for, while being a pilot, I do have a life
For those of you that have an interview study; for those of you that had one – you know what you need. ABY is a great place, far better than EK or EY. NO you will not fly an A-380 here but a plane is a plane – show me the money! True we are getting bigger and that creates the problems with knowing each other, scheduling and operations; but it is still fun. When it is not I will be the first to tell the forum it is not!
I was fortunate to go through the growth of the 70s and 80s in the USA. That was a great time. Upgrades in 2-3 years. Well few of us have that opportunity to experience that in a lifetime not alone twice in the same lifetime. It is happening here and guys, it may change, but it is happening right now. Every day we go to work and something new (GREAT) is announced. The company made $100 million last quarter or we are buying 3 planes from ABC airlines (I believe we have more planes from Vueling than they have.)
Yes, yes, yes we complain about the schedule (roster) and the flying (I have 99 hours in June) but we never complain about the cash. My 99 hours pays 132 hours or about $5,200 above my guarantee ($12,000) not including per diem [which we don’t spend since we do day trips ($410)]!
Now think about this! We are allowed to fly 900 hours a year. Please multiply 99 hours in one month by 12 months? That’s right – you will fly about 8.5 – 9 HARD months a year and then what? Oh my gosh, I have to take 2-3 months off.
Yes assuming you take no vacation (45 days a year off) you will run out of time in 9-10 months unless you "slow down" the flying when you get close - it does happen. Take vacation during the year and it may extend the time you fly a year - your monthly time may decrease. Not necessarily, for this month I personally took 14 days leave (18 days off,) flew 72 hard hours (about 5+ hours a day) and got paid 91 hours.
Now I know guys will say you have to fly 30 days a month to make the big bucks. I suggest to those of you that believe that, you simply go to Airarabia.com and look at the schedule. You fly a Colombo, Sri Lanka out and back and it takes you 9 hours but you get paid 13.5 hours. Now don’t get your draws up for this is not the only flight. Over half of our flights are like this and pay 10.5 hours for a 6:15 flight or 12 hours for 7:25…etc!
So do the math – you are pilots – well pilots are bad at math but you are very good at cash. Math is cash and you fly 1 flight for 8 hours block (much more pay) and you have 96 hours over a 12 day period! Oh my gosh, I’m out of time in 9 months!
It works guys, hope to see you on the line. But as Dennis Miller says: “Then again I could be wrong!”
B&O
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Hey Capt Purple:
PM me, we'll talk!
Welcome aboard and am looking forward to having a few with you at Kempinski’s. PM me and I will give you the scoop on schools, housing, cars, etc. You are in for a different world. A world where the gas prices just went up for 94 octane to a buck and a quarter – we hate it.
Quick and dirty.
Schools: Australian school on National Paints Road – you’ll learn about direction when you get here
Housing: what do you want? Big villas (4000 sq ft+) are right around the airport (I live less than 4 minutes from the employee parking lot and never hear a plane – you’ll understand when we meet.) DON”T GO TO THE CORNICHE! Long drive and our schedule, daily flying, will drive you crazy.
Cars: In this part of the world you are Bill Gates! Banks and companies will go crazy for your business. Let them know you are a Pilot – the doors open faster than they do for Warren Buffet in the USA. It is quite nice and you will like it.
Driving License: you have a USA or EU license – it converts directly and you have no test. If not you may have to take a driving test. My wife simply took her USA license and got a UAE license – DAM I was hoping that would not happen:-)
B&O
PM me, we'll talk!
Welcome aboard and am looking forward to having a few with you at Kempinski’s. PM me and I will give you the scoop on schools, housing, cars, etc. You are in for a different world. A world where the gas prices just went up for 94 octane to a buck and a quarter – we hate it.
Quick and dirty.
Schools: Australian school on National Paints Road – you’ll learn about direction when you get here
Housing: what do you want? Big villas (4000 sq ft+) are right around the airport (I live less than 4 minutes from the employee parking lot and never hear a plane – you’ll understand when we meet.) DON”T GO TO THE CORNICHE! Long drive and our schedule, daily flying, will drive you crazy.
Cars: In this part of the world you are Bill Gates! Banks and companies will go crazy for your business. Let them know you are a Pilot – the doors open faster than they do for Warren Buffet in the USA. It is quite nice and you will like it.
Driving License: you have a USA or EU license – it converts directly and you have no test. If not you may have to take a driving test. My wife simply took her USA license and got a UAE license – DAM I was hoping that would not happen:-)
B&O
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Hey Mike Hagen:
Sorry to say, while your wife is very qualified she will probably have a low chance at ABY. Yes, 4 years ago we could not get a pilot with jet time not alone Capt time; but today the applications are piled a mile high. The company can pick and choose from those with not only time in the baby bus but a lot of time in the left seat in the bus. I do not want to misrepresent that which may be a possibility but as I have said before, that is what I believe.
Now if she has 73 time and you are interested in this part of the world – well look at India. Not only may she get the job but Jet Airways may put her into a Boeing 777. Looking for boeing drivers big time.
Now I don’t want to push you away from our little operation, but I have to be honest. Bus drivers are needed, others need not apply today!
You may have her consider Royal Jet. Big time BBJ operation out of Abu Dhabi and they have a decent life
B&O
Sorry to say, while your wife is very qualified she will probably have a low chance at ABY. Yes, 4 years ago we could not get a pilot with jet time not alone Capt time; but today the applications are piled a mile high. The company can pick and choose from those with not only time in the baby bus but a lot of time in the left seat in the bus. I do not want to misrepresent that which may be a possibility but as I have said before, that is what I believe.
Now if she has 73 time and you are interested in this part of the world – well look at India. Not only may she get the job but Jet Airways may put her into a Boeing 777. Looking for boeing drivers big time.
Now I don’t want to push you away from our little operation, but I have to be honest. Bus drivers are needed, others need not apply today!
You may have her consider Royal Jet. Big time BBJ operation out of Abu Dhabi and they have a decent life
B&O
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I now understand the question asked about 8-5 or 9-6. What I meant was that a standard job any Smuck would have from 8-5 is not what you will get at ABY. When I said it is 9-6, I meant you will work longer than Joe Smuck!
Don’t be afraid of a 10 hour duty day at ABY. If you are – well go to Emirates! A short day is 5-7 hours and a normal day is 10+. So when I mention the time I was saying, as I believed most pilots understand, we work different hours – 7AM to 9PM or 9PM to 7AM you pick your poison.
You have the lead
Don’t be afraid of a 10 hour duty day at ABY. If you are – well go to Emirates! A short day is 5-7 hours and a normal day is 10+. So when I mention the time I was saying, as I believed most pilots understand, we work different hours – 7AM to 9PM or 9PM to 7AM you pick your poison.
You have the lead
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Need help
I did my interview with air arabia in nevember 2007 for the AB-initio pilot got reply form them beginning of jan that I was selected and still now I havent heard form them to start TR.
They told us on the day of the interview that we have to wait for 2 months to one year for TR if we got selected .can any one here who is working with air arabia help me I just want to know when I am going to start i have been wating now for more than 7 months.
Thanks in advance
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All119
Hiring is going crazy with all the new planes and routes (a new route announced today with 4 more in the next few days.) The company’s priorities are to fly planes and carry people. As a result the training department is going absolutely crazy. Several of my friends in the department are pulling their collective hair out.
First priority is to get new hired Captains and F/Os on the line to fly. Second priority is to get the upgrade F/Os through the long and arduous process of upgrading - about 6-7 in various stages as I write. The last priority is to get S/Os into the program. I have no idea how many pilots are being hired weekly but every time I go to ops or fly with a new guy, the employee numbers are getting out of control.
So in typical airline fashion, the ultimate job is to fly the folks and make the cash. I would suggest you, politely, contact ABY and ask for an update on your situation.
Best of luck,
B&O
Hiring is going crazy with all the new planes and routes (a new route announced today with 4 more in the next few days.) The company’s priorities are to fly planes and carry people. As a result the training department is going absolutely crazy. Several of my friends in the department are pulling their collective hair out.
First priority is to get new hired Captains and F/Os on the line to fly. Second priority is to get the upgrade F/Os through the long and arduous process of upgrading - about 6-7 in various stages as I write. The last priority is to get S/Os into the program. I have no idea how many pilots are being hired weekly but every time I go to ops or fly with a new guy, the employee numbers are getting out of control.
So in typical airline fashion, the ultimate job is to fly the folks and make the cash. I would suggest you, politely, contact ABY and ask for an update on your situation.
Best of luck,
B&O
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simple question:
Whats the captain (1500 hours on type)pay at the end of the month flying around 80 hours excluding house allowance and the rest of the benefits,
And including all benefits?
Thanks folks
Whats the captain (1500 hours on type)pay at the end of the month flying around 80 hours excluding house allowance and the rest of the benefits,
And including all benefits?
Thanks folks
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Hey WW
I have read all your post about rostering but do you also have a minimum amount of off days per month?? What would you say is the average?
Have also heard that AA is looking for volunteers within the company who are willling to go to KTM. Do you think it will affect rostering in terms of overnights there (or maybe ongoing flights to the Far East)if they can t find enough..
Again many thanks for your help + time to answer..
Cheers
Paris
Have also heard that AA is looking for volunteers within the company who are willling to go to KTM. Do you think it will affect rostering in terms of overnights there (or maybe ongoing flights to the Far East)if they can t find enough..
Again many thanks for your help + time to answer..
Cheers
Paris