acupuncture for the eyes?
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acupuncture for the eyes?
hi all, has anybody of u mates, heard about acupuncture treatments to reduce refractive error ? anyone did it? how is it done?
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RMM
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Oh yuk! You cannot be serious! This is what nightmares are made of! An unlicensed 'medical' practitioner (with probably very limited liability insurance, if any) sticking needles in your eyes? Run!
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I don't have faith in this sort of treatment - it's conventional stuff all the way for me.............however, I did some research and couldn't find any treatment for your disorder.
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I did find some info on acupuncture for eye diseases...
The main objective of the treatment is to disperse extravasculated blood which pooled within the eye depth as a result of various aetiologies.
This disorder is situated in the most delicate anatomical region and it calls for a very skillful needle technique.
B-1 Jingming and St-1 Chengqi are inserted slowly and smoothly perpendicularly to a depth of 1.5 Cun, while the other hand is pushing gently the eyeball leftward or upward respectively.
The needle is pushed inside until the patient experiences Deqi.
The most common sensations here are tingling, numbness and pressure which surrounds the eye. Also Qiuhou is punctured in the same manner apart from being directed medially rather than perpendicularly.
It usually gives the sensation of slight electrical shock or a pressure behind the eyeball.
After the Qi has been obtained, the needle should be flicked rapidly but gently with the finger nail, so as to strengthen the Qi sensation and enhance the dispersal effect.
Other types of manipulations are prohibited. Now and then, in some patients, a hematoma may develop as a result of micro bleeding due to needle injury.
A black-eye is thus not a very rare outcome of the procedure.
In case this happens the patient should be calmed and ensured that beside the temporary esthetic inconvenience there is nothing to be afraid of.
The needles surrounding the eye may remain in situ at least 20 minutes.
As I see it, pun unintentional, ones eyesight is too precious to have it messed about with than anyone other than a consultant surgeon who deals in Opthalmology.
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I did find some info on acupuncture for eye diseases...
The main objective of the treatment is to disperse extravasculated blood which pooled within the eye depth as a result of various aetiologies.
This disorder is situated in the most delicate anatomical region and it calls for a very skillful needle technique.
B-1 Jingming and St-1 Chengqi are inserted slowly and smoothly perpendicularly to a depth of 1.5 Cun, while the other hand is pushing gently the eyeball leftward or upward respectively.
The needle is pushed inside until the patient experiences Deqi.
The most common sensations here are tingling, numbness and pressure which surrounds the eye. Also Qiuhou is punctured in the same manner apart from being directed medially rather than perpendicularly.
It usually gives the sensation of slight electrical shock or a pressure behind the eyeball.
After the Qi has been obtained, the needle should be flicked rapidly but gently with the finger nail, so as to strengthen the Qi sensation and enhance the dispersal effect.
Other types of manipulations are prohibited. Now and then, in some patients, a hematoma may develop as a result of micro bleeding due to needle injury.
A black-eye is thus not a very rare outcome of the procedure.
In case this happens the patient should be calmed and ensured that beside the temporary esthetic inconvenience there is nothing to be afraid of.
The needles surrounding the eye may remain in situ at least 20 minutes.
As I see it, pun unintentional, ones eyesight is too precious to have it messed about with than anyone other than a consultant surgeon who deals in Opthalmology.
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thanks M8 ,
i got a get my error down from 3.7 to 2.9 / 3.0 each eye
been doing some research and this came up....
http://www.icmart.org/icmabs/p94.html
http://www.advancedacupuncture.com/eye_disorders.html
what do u think??
cheers .
RMM
i got a get my error down from 3.7 to 2.9 / 3.0 each eye
been doing some research and this came up....
http://www.icmart.org/icmabs/p94.html
http://www.advancedacupuncture.com/eye_disorders.html
what do u think??
cheers .
RMM
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I'm getting 'page cannot be displayed' on both those links.
I would write it in capital letters, but sticking to conventional letters.......'do not let these quacks anywhere near your eyes with needles!' Stick to conventional medicine for your eyes. Any damage these people do will be permanent.
I would write it in capital letters, but sticking to conventional letters.......'do not let these quacks anywhere near your eyes with needles!' Stick to conventional medicine for your eyes. Any damage these people do will be permanent.
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thanks for the advice notso
i think iŽll take it( your advice). Maybe i`ll try one of the others ( bates or something ......) what do you think??
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H..see the thread running above on Bates also. H
i think iŽll take it( your advice). Maybe i`ll try one of the others ( bates or something ......) what do you think??cheers
RMM
H..see the thread running above on Bates also. H
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RMM- those sites are working now.
Looking at them, wouldn't you think that they were firing an incredibly impressive list of percentages at you for something that is almost impossible to actually measure? And using long words to 'blind' you with impressive knowledge and statistics? For something that most medically trained people would call complete quackery? I would not trust them one inch myself- if western medicine cannot handle the problem, this is hardly going to achieve anything- sticking needles in your face is not going to handle serious eye problems.
IMO Acupuncture's chief success is making you 'feel' you have made progress. Without wishing to start a discussion on how effective acupuncture is, until mainstream western medicine positively accepts the benefits of acupuncture, and if it worked it would have proved itself by the year 2004, then better only to use it lightly, and not on the face or the eyes!
Looking at them, wouldn't you think that they were firing an incredibly impressive list of percentages at you for something that is almost impossible to actually measure? And using long words to 'blind' you with impressive knowledge and statistics? For something that most medically trained people would call complete quackery? I would not trust them one inch myself- if western medicine cannot handle the problem, this is hardly going to achieve anything- sticking needles in your face is not going to handle serious eye problems.
IMO Acupuncture's chief success is making you 'feel' you have made progress. Without wishing to start a discussion on how effective acupuncture is, until mainstream western medicine positively accepts the benefits of acupuncture, and if it worked it would have proved itself by the year 2004, then better only to use it lightly, and not on the face or the eyes!
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I don't have a clue if this will help.
I have heard from a Alexander technique practitioner about how this can effect the eyes as well.
He was saying that the scarest session he had done when the lady suddenly started screaming.
transpires that when she was 16 she had a corrective eye op to sort some stuff out. He had just released what the original problem was 15 years later. Unfortunatly this ment that although the lady didn't need glasses anymore she did have an alarming diversion of ocular focus which was what the op was for in the first place.
MJ
I have heard from a Alexander technique practitioner about how this can effect the eyes as well.
He was saying that the scarest session he had done when the lady suddenly started screaming.
transpires that when she was 16 she had a corrective eye op to sort some stuff out. He had just released what the original problem was 15 years later. Unfortunatly this ment that although the lady didn't need glasses anymore she did have an alarming diversion of ocular focus which was what the op was for in the first place.
MJ
