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Old 18th Apr 2010, 07:52
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Ti toccherà tornare con un piroscafo ....
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Statement on Icelandic volcanic eruption: Sunday April 18, 1000

The volcanic ash cloud from Iceland is currently spread across the UK. Based on the latest information from the Met Office, NATS advises that the restrictions currently in place across UK controlled airspace will remain in place until at least 0100 (local time) tomorrow, Monday 19 April.

There may be limited opportunity in Orkney and Shetland from 1900 (local time) today for some flights to operate under individual coordination with ATC. However, it is most unlikely that many flights will operate today and anyone hoping to travel should contact their airline before travelling to the airport.

We will continue to monitor Met Office information and review our arrangements in line with that. We will advise further arrangements at approximately 1500 (local time), today.

Eh ma che palle.....
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KLM, the Dutch subsidiary of Air France, said Sunday it wants to resume passenger flights in Europe as soon as possible after it flew a plane through the cloud of volcanic ash covering much of the continent without suffering any damage.
KLM carried out the test flight above Dutch airspace Saturday. It said initial inspections afterward showed no damage or irregularities from the ash in the air that has led to a ban on air travel over much of Europe since Friday.

The airline says it now plans to return seven airplanes without passengers to Amsterdam from Duesseldorf Sunday.

"We hope to receive permission as soon as possible after that to start up our operation and to transport our passengers to their destinations," said Chief Executive Peter Hartman, who was aboard Saturday's flight.
Germany's Lufthansa flew 10 empty planes to Frankfurt from Munich at low altitude on Saturday under so-called visual flight rules, in which pilots don't have to rely on their instruments.

But the KLM flight, a Boeing 737, flew up to 41,000 feet (13,000 meters), the maximum altitude at which the aircraft is certified to fly.

"We observed no irregularities either during the flight or during the initial inspection on the ground," Hartman said in a statement.

The flight ban has caused massive delays to people and goods, and has left thousands of passengers stranded across the globe.

Dutch newspaper De Telegraaf quoted Hartman as having said at a news conference late Saturday that the airline has been "begging" the European air navigation safety agency Eurocontrol to consider lifting the ban, but the agency has so far refused to discuss the matter.

KLM spokeswoman Saskia Kranendonk said she could not confirm those remarks, but said the company does wish to resume flying passengers in most parts of Europe as soon as possible.

The Dutch Transport Ministry Sunday said national airspace will remain closed to passenger traffic until at least 2 p.m. local time, but confirmed it is allowing further test flights.

"The goal of these test flights is to make measurements in Dutch airspace about the possible consequences of the ash on the airplane parts, the ministry said in a statement.

Southern Iceland's Eyjafjallajokull (ay-yah-FYAH'-plah-yer-kuh-duhl) volcano began erupting for the second time in a month on Wednesday, sending ash several miles (kilometers) into the air. Winds have pushed the plume south and east across Britain, Ireland, Scandinavia and into the heart of Europe.

Scientists say volcano ash can be catastrophic to plane engines.

In 1989, a KLM Boeing 747 that flew through a volcanic ash cloud above Alaska temporarily lost all four motors. The motors restarted at a lower altitude and the plane eventually landed safely.

The volcanic eruption is ongoing and forecasters said light prevailing winds in Europe - and large amounts of unmelted glacial ice above the volcano - mean that the situation in the air is unlikely to change in the coming days.
A quanto pare la situazione non cambierà...
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Old 18th Apr 2010, 11:49
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il risultato non cambia. Essere senza aeromobili a causa della chiusura dello spazio aereo, o essere rimasti senza equipaggi a causa della chiusura dello spazio aereo non cambia il fatto che è successo tutto a causa della chiusura dello spazio aereo.
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allora ho pensato che i poveri elicotteri vfr potessero macinare cenere vulcanica nelle loro turbine
Non me ne preoccuperei più di tanto....molti montano il separatore di particelle; alcuni modelli (es. B412) ce l'hanno fisso di fabbrica.

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Domani alle 7 riapre lo spazio aereo italiano, per tutti i voli, come indicato nel seguente comunicato di ENAC:
“L’Enac comunica che, sulla base del Bollettino “Met Office - Volcanic Ash Advisory Centres”, circa lo stato della nube vulcanica islandese, è risultato confermato il miglioramento della situazione sull’area del Nord Italia.
Pertanto l’Ente Nazionale per l’Aviazione Civile ha disposto la riapertura dell’intero spazio aereo italiano a tutti i voli, a partire dalle ore 7:00 antimeridiane (ora italiana) di lunedì 19 aprile.”
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In Inghilterra siamo messi così invece...e non accenna a migliorare

Based on the latest information from the Met Office, NATS advises that the current restrictions across UK controlled airspace due to the volcanic ash cloud will remain in place until at least 1900 (local time) on Monday 19 April.
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Old 18th Apr 2010, 20:54
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Beh sì l'Inghilterra è molto più vicina al fenomeno. Qui chiudere subito tutto forse è stato un pochino avventato, ma sempre giusto per la sicurezza e per verificare la situazione.
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Old 19th Apr 2010, 02:26
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Io nel dubbio mi sn prenotato un bell'aereo per 4-5 giorni...girellerò su e giù per la florida...
Meglio ke essere in fabbrica...
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Old 19th Apr 2010, 07:35
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"Malpensa e Linate riaprono alle 7, ma l'attività dura pochissimo. L'Enac alle 9 richiude lo spazio aereo. Germania, Belgio e Olanda prorogano chiusura dello spazio aereo. Nell'Ue è operativa la metà dei voli. Alitalia riprende i collegamenti nazionali. Ai viaggiatori si consiglia di contattare le compagnie aeree. Notte sulle brandine a Fiumicino e Malpensa. Protesta delle compagnie aeree della Iata: "Pochi pericoli, crisi gestita male""
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Old 19th Apr 2010, 07:43
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sembra che l'ultima chiusura sia conseguenza di un problema tecnico riportato da un equipaggio in volo..

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Old 19th Apr 2010, 08:37
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...Crew Iberia in volo a Fl 350 ha riportato incremento del 20% temperatura motori in attraversamento piccolo strato....
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Old 19th Apr 2010, 09:01
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Dai dai ragazzi, che adesso arrivano gli aiuti statali ai nostri capi....
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Dai dai ragazzi, che adesso arrivano gli aiuti statali ai nostri capi....
non ai miei capi..

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Old 19th Apr 2010, 10:43
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nn fare lo scemo...nn tornare...approfitta della situazione e divertiti anche x me, la florida mi manca moltissimo...!!!!!

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Old 19th Apr 2010, 12:20
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A pain in the "ash"

Guarda un disastro...siamo talmente avviliti che ci toccherà passare una settimana alle Bermuda per aspettare il nostro volo di rientro...

Almeno sverginerò il mio brevetto anche lì...se vale...
By the way...alle bermuda vale il brevetto FAA?? Boh...

Tanto col tempo che resteremo bloccati faccio in tempo a fare la conversione...
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Mi raccomando va a mangiare la bistecca al Water lot Inn del Fairmont Hotel di Sommerset!
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Old 19th Apr 2010, 14:15
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va pnt procedure

Just for info....
visto che prima o poi torneremo a volare,
non ho mai avuto occasione di discutere con colleghi di altre macchine sulle procedure previste dal costruttore in caso di incontro di volcanic ash, sarebbe interessante scambiarsele?
io attualmente sono cpt su a320family e posso pubblicare le procedure airbus, se qualcuno è interessato possiamo pubblicarle per varie macchine,
magari esce qualcosa di buono...che ne pensano i colleghi?
saluti
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Old 19th Apr 2010, 15:09
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Good news!

Statement on Icelandic volcanic eruption: Monday April 19, 1530

The volcanic eruption has reduced and the volcano is not currently emitting ash to altitudes that will affect the UK. Assuming there are no further significant ash emissions we are now looking at a continuously improving situation.

Based on the latest information from the Met Office, NATS advises that the restrictions currently in place across UK controlled airspace will remain in place until 0700 (local time) tomorrow, Tuesday.

From 0700 (local time) tomorrow, Tuesday, Scottish airspace will be open, and south to a line between Teesside and Blackpool. Mainland Scottish airports will be open.

This is a dynamic and changing situation and is therefore difficult to forecast beyond 0700 local; however, the latest Met Office advice is that the contaminated area will continue to move south with the possibility that restrictions to airspace above England and Wales, including the London area, may be lifted later tomorrow (Tuesday).
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Old 19th Apr 2010, 16:29
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Questa è la "mappa delle ceneri": http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/aviation...1271655414.png
Sembra fatta apposta per bloccare tutti i voli transatlantici!

Intanto a casa nostra, tanto per non far capire che peracottari semo, er sito dell'arioporto de fiumme sta chiuso!
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