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7th Jan 2009, 08:14

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MXP again

Can anyone tell me what is going on at MXP today? My daughter is stuck there, now telling me ALL AZ flights canceled?

METAR LIMC 070850Z 00000KT 0400 R35R/1000N R35L/0800N SN BKN003 OVC010 M01/M02 Q1015 NOSIG

Thanks from NY...

7th Jan 2009, 08:40

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hi, the north western area of Italy has experienced really heavy snowfalls in the night. I have watched the TV news and they say that LIN and MXP will be open again by 1300 LT ..!

7th Jan 2009, 08:45

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Let it snow, let it snow...

The answer is here. Unfortunately it is only in italian, the english site is not updated:

http://www.sea-aeroportimilano.it/it

Anyway, LIN and MXP airports are closed till 1 PM due to "adverse meteorological conditions"

And here the last:

MXP /LIMC * MALPENSA-MILAN
B. SA070920
00000KT 0400 R35R/0900N R35L/1000U SN BKN003 OVC010 M01/M03
Q1015 NOSIG
F. FT070500 VALIDITY: 070600
0706/0806 VRB05KT 0700 SN BKN003 OVC020 BECMG 0717/0720
1500 RASN LIN /LIML * LINATE-MILAN/FORLANINI
B. SA070920
VRB01KT 0600 R36/1000D SN BKN002 OVC012 01/M01 Q1015
36290195 NOSIG
F. FT070500 VALIDITY: 070600
0706/0806 VRB05KT 0800 SN BKN004 OVC015 BECMG 0716/0719
1500 RASN

Good luck

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7th Jan 2009, 13:43

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...Hi,I don't know if you are familiar with Mxp and Lin but if the Wx is bad for Mxp is the worst in the world, and due to italian way of life this problem will be always there!!!
P.S. I'm Italian.

7th Jan 2009, 13:54

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Maybe you don't understand this is not a standard situation... It's the greatest snowfall since 1985 here.

Quote:

LIMC 071420Z VRB03KT 6000 RA OVC020 01/00 Q1014 85//99// 3529//95 NOSIG
LIMC 071350Z 00000KT 6000 RA OVC020 01/00 Q1013 85//99// 3529//95 NOSIG
LIMC 071320Z VRB02KT 6000 -RA OVC020 01/00 Q1013 85//99// 35590194 NOSIG
LIMC 071250Z VRB03KT 6000 -RA OVC020 01/M01 Q1013 85//99// 35590194 NOSIG
LIMC 071220Z VRB03KT 4000 -RA BR OVC018 01/M01 Q1014 85//99// 35590194 NOSIG
LIMC 071120Z 00000KT 2000 -RASN BR OVC018 00/M01 Q1014 85//99// 35590194 NOSIG
LIMC 071050Z 00000KT 1200 R35R/1500N R35L/1400N - SN BKN003 OVC010 00/M01 Q1015 RESN 85//99// 35590194 NOSIG
LIMC 071020Z 00000KT 1300 R35R/1500N R35L/1500N - SN BKN003 OVC010 00/M01 Q1015 RESN NOSIG
LIMC 070950Z 00000KT 1100 R35R/1100U R35L/1100U SN BKN003 OVC010 M01/M02 Q1015 NOSIG
LIMC 070920Z 00000KT 0400 R35R/0900N R35L/1000U SN BKN003 OVC010 M01/M03 Q1015 NOSIG
LIMC 070850Z 00000KT 0400 R35R/1000N R35L/0800N SN BKN003 OVC010 M01/M02 Q1015 NOSIG
LIMC 070820Z 00000KT 0400 R35R/1000N R35L/0800N SN BKN003 OVC010 M01/M03 Q1015 NOSIG
LIMC 070750Z 00000KT 0400 R35R/1000N R35L/1000N SN BKN003 OVC010 M01/M03 Q1015 NOSIG
LIMC 070650Z 00000KT 0400 R35R/1400D R35L/1500N SN BKN003 OVC020 M01/M03 Q1014 85//99// 35490195 NOSIG
LIMC 070620Z 00000KT 0500 R35R/1500N R35L/1300N SN BKN003 OVC020 M01/M03 Q1014 85//99// 35490195 NOSIG
LIMC 070550Z 00000KT 0500 R35R/P1500N R35L/1300N FG SN BKN003 OVC020 M01/M03 Q1014 85//99// 35490195 NOSIG
LIMC 070520Z 00000KT 0500 R35R/P1500N R35L/1300N FG SN BKN003 OVC020 M01/M02 Q1014 85//99// 35490195 NOSIG
LIMC 070450Z 00000KT 0500 R35R/P1500N R35L/1100N FG SN BKN003 OVC020 M01/M02 Q1014 85//99// 35490195 NOSIG
LIMC 070420Z 00000KT 0500 R35R/1500N R35L/1300N FG SN BKN003 OVC020 00/M02 Q1014 85592091 35590393 NOSIG
LIMC 070350Z 00000KT 0500 R35R/P1000V1400N R35L/0800V1100N FG SN BKN003 OVC020 M01/M02 Q1014 85592091 35590393 NOSIG
LIMC 070320Z 00000KT 0600 R35R/P1500N R35L/P1200D SN BKN003 OVC020 M01/M02 Q1014 85592091 35590393 NOSIG
LIMC 070250Z 00000KT 1000 R35R/P1500N R35L/P1500N SN BKN003 OVC020 M01/M02 Q1014 85592091 35590393 NOSIG
LIMC 070220Z 00000KT 1200 R35R/P1500N R35L/P1500N SN BKN003 OVC020 M01/M02 Q1014 85592091 35590393 NOSIG
LIMC 070150Z 00000KT 1200 R35R/P1500N R35L/P1500N SN BKN003 OVC020 M01/M02 Q1014 85592091 35590393 NOSIG
LIMC 070120Z 00000KT 1200 R35R/P1500N R35L/P1500N SN BKN004 OVC020 M01/M02 Q1014 85592091 35590393 NOSIG
LIMC 070050Z 00000KT 1000 R35R/P1500N R35L/P1500N SN BKN004 OVC020 M01/M02 Q1015 85592091 35590393 NOSIG
LIMC 070020Z 00000KT 1000 R35R/P1500N R35L/P1500N SN BKN004 OVC020 M01/M02 Q1015 85592091 35590393 NOSIG
LIMC 062350Z VRB01KT 1000 R35R/P1500N R35L/P1500N SN BKN004 OVC020 M02/M03 Q1015 85592091 35590393 NOSIG
LIMC 062320Z VRB01KT 1000 R35R/P1500N R35L/P1500N SN BKN003 OVC010 M02/M03 Q1015 85592091 35590393 NOSIG
LIMC 062250Z 00000KT 0800 R35R/P1500N R35L/P1500N SN BKN003 OVC010 M02/M03 Q1016 85491094 35//99// NOSIG
LIMC 062220Z 00000KT 1000 R35R/P1500N R35L/P1500N SN BKN003 OVC010 M02/M03 Q1016 85491094 35//99// NOSIG
LIMC 062150Z 00000KT 1000 R35R/P1500N R35L/P1500N SN BKN003 OVC010 M02/M03 Q1016 85491094 35//99// NOSIG
LIMC 062120Z VRB01KT 1000 R35R/P1500N R35L/P1500N SN BKN003 OVC010 M02/M03 Q1016 85490395 35490395 NOSIG
LIMC 062050Z VRB03KT 1000 R35R/P1500N R35L/P1500N SN BKN003 OVC010 M02/M03 Q1016 85490395 35490395 NOSIG
LIMC 062020Z VRB01KT 1000 R35R/P1500N R35L/P1500N SN BKN003 OVC010 M02/M03 Q1016 85490395 35490395 NOSIG
LIMC 061950Z 00000KT 1000 R35R/P1500N R35L/P1500N SN BKN003 OVC010 M02/M03 Q1016 85490395 35490395 NOSIG
LIMC 061920Z VRB01KT 1200 R35R/P1500N R35L/P1500N SN BKN003 OVC010 M02/M03 Q1016 85490395 35490395 NOSIG
LIMC 061850Z 00000KT 1200 R35R/P1500N R35L/P1500N - SN BKN003 OVC010 M02/M03 Q1016 85490395 35490395 NOSIG
LIMC 061820Z 00000KT 1200 R35R/P1500N R35L/P1500N - SN BKN003 OVC010 M02/M03 Q1016 RESN 85//99// 35290195 NOSIG
LIMC 061750Z VRB01KT 1000 R35R/P1500N R35L/P1500N SN BKN003 OVC010 M02/M03 Q1065 85//99// 35290195 NOSIG
LIMC 061720Z 00000KT 1000 R35R/P1500N R35L/P1500N SN BKN003 OVC010 M02/M03 Q1015 85//99// 35290195 NOSIG
LIMC 061650Z 00000KT 1000 R35R/P1500N R35L/P1500N SN BKN003 OVC010 M01/M03 Q1015 85//99// 35290195 NOSIG
LIMC 061620Z 00000KT 1200 R35R/P1500N R35L/P1500N SN BKN003 OVC010 M02/M03 Q1015 85292095 35//99// NOSIG
LIMC 061550Z 00000KT 1500 SN BKN003 OVC010 M02/M03 Q1015 85292095 35//99// NOSIG
LIMC 061520Z 00000KT 1500 SN BKN004 OVC010 M02/M03 Q1015 85292095 35//99// NOSIG
LIMC 061450Z 00000KT 1000 R35R/1000V1500U R35L/1500N SN BKN004 OVC010 M02/M03 Q1015 85292095 35//99// NOSIG
LIMC 061420Z 00000KT 1000 R35R/1200U R35L/1100N SN BKN004 OVC010 M02/M03 Q1015 8529//95 35590494 NOSIG
LIMC 061350Z 00000KT 1000 R35R/0800V1300U R35L/1200U SN BKN004 OVC010 M01/M03 Q1015 8529//95 35590494 NOSIG
LIMC 061320Z 00000KT 1000 R35R/0900D R35L/0900N SN BKN004 OVC010 M02/M03 Q1015 8529//95 35590494 NOSIG
LIMC 061250Z 00000KT 1000 R35R/0900N R35L/0900N SN BKN004 OVC010 M02/M03 Q1015 8529//95 35590494 NOSIG
LIMC 061220Z 00000KT 1000 R35R/0900D R35L/0900N SN BKN004 OVC010 M02/M03 Q1015 8529//95 35590494 NOSIG
LIMC 061150Z 00000KT 1000 R35R/0900N R35L/0900N SN BKN004 OVC015 M02/M03 Q1015 8529//95 35590494 NOSIG
LIMC 061120Z 00000KT 1000 R35R/1400N R35L/1300N SN BKN004 OVC015 M02/M03 Q1015 8529//95 35590494 NOSIG
LIMC 061050Z 00000KT 0500 R35R/1500N R35L/1300N SN BKN004 OVC015 M02/M03 Q1015 8529//95 35590494 NOSIG
LIMC 061020Z 00000KT 0500 R35R/0900N R35L/0900N SN BKN004 OVC015 M02/M03 Q1015 8529//95 35590494 NOSIG
LIMC 060950Z 00000KT 0500 R35R/P1000N R35L/P0900N SN BKN004 OVC015 M02/M03 Q1015 8529//95 35590494 NOSIG
LIMC 060920Z 00000KT 0800 R35R/P1100D R35L/P1000N SN BKN005 OVC015 M02/M03 Q1015 8529//95 35590494 NOSIG
LIMC 060850Z 00000KT 0900 R35R/P1500N R35L/P1100N SN BKN005 OVC020 M02/M03 Q1015 85//99// 35491095 NOSIG
LIMC 060820Z VRB02KT 1000 R35R/P1500N R35L/P1500N SN BKN006 OVC020 M02/M03 Q1015 85//99// 35491095 NOSIG
LIMC 060750Z 00000KT 1500 R35R/P1500N R35L/P1500N SN BKN010 OVC030 M02/M03 Q1015 85//99// 35491095 NOSIG
LIMC 060720Z 00000KT 1200 R35R/P1500N R35L/P1500N SN BKN010 OVC030 M01/M02 Q1014 8539//95 35//99// NOSIG
LIMC 060650Z 00000KT 1500 SN BKN015 OVC030 M01/M03 Q1014 8539//95 35//99// NOSIG
LIMC 060620Z VRB02KT 1500 SN BKN015 OVC030 M02/M03 Q1014 8539//95 35//99// NOSIG
LIMC 060550Z VRB02KT 1600 SN BKN015 OVC030 M02/M03 Q1014 8539//95 35//99// NOSIG
LIMC 060520Z VRB01KT 1600 SN BKN015 OVC030 M02/M03 Q1013 8539//95 35//99// NOSIG
LIMC 060450Z VRB01KT 1600 SN BKN015 OVC030 M02/M03 Q1013 85//99// 3529//95 NOSIG
LIMC 060420Z VRB01KT 1600 SN BKN015 OVC030 M02/M03 Q1013 85//99// 3529//95 NOSIG
LIMC 060350Z VRB01KT 1600 SN BKN015 OVC030 M02/M03 Q1013 85//99// 3529//95 NOSIG
LIMC 060320Z VRB02KT 1600 SN BKN015 OVC030 M02/M03 Q1013 NOSIG
LIMC 060250Z VRB02KT 1600 SN BKN015 OVC030 M02/M03 Q1013 NOSIG METAR

And it started snowing hours before...

7th Jan 2009, 14:24

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CR2, it's going on same happens sometimes on your side of the pond, e.g. ORD JFK and BOS.

Suggest to consider safety margin against school reopening.

Ciao from MXP...

7th Jan 2009, 23:58

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Thanks all,

The whole story is that she got stuck originally because those LIARS at Priceline.com told her and then us that her original flight on Tuesday was canceled (operated as codeshare DL161). Me being a distrustful soul (why cancel a JFK flight, they're always full...) decide to investigate this. Of course the flight operated, (I have the mvt message etc), it was probably overbooked and she, being on a cheap ticket got the boot. Everyone is going to hear about this very loudly, as my better half is on the warpath. Our daughter is 16 and was left to fend for herself by the give a sh*t AZ ground staff. Some kind lady from S.E.A helped her out, got her a hotel voucher, a meal voucher etc... Her manager is going to get a thank-you letter, we have her name. AZ are going to hear it...

The weather of course, is a whole different ball game, these things happen. But for us, it would have been irrelevant if above situation had not happened.

So now she is booked on 08Jan flight... I await the next "issue"

And Flyblue Thanks very much for your offer, that was really kind of you.

8th Jan 2009, 08:19

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AZAMDL0604/08 EICRF MXP-JFK 081210E 2115E D0150*D0150*

delayed because the plane is arriving from FCO

now:

MXP /LIMC * MALPENSA-MILAN-------
B. SA080850
00000KT 5000 - RA BR BKN020 BKN040 01/M01 Q1020 NOSIG
B. SA080820
00000KT 5000 - RA BR BKN025 BKN040 01/00 Q1020 NOSIG
F. FT072300 VALIDITY: 080000
0800/0824 VRB05KT 2500 BR OVC025 TEMPO 0800/0812 RA PROB40
TEMPO 0810/0818 1200 SN BKN005 OVC012

Good luck again

Mike

8th Jan 2009, 11:58

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sea is the handler of az in mxp ,there is not front line staff az in mxp . and anyway so sorry about your daugther.

8th Jan 2009, 20:49

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Thanks to all of you

She's on the way home now. Was a further 3 hours delay ex MXP, but that is small change

9th Jan 2009, 07:09

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Good news, glad to hear that!

All companies should give some form of special treatment to kids at least until 18. In my company a UM is up to 12, but you can request UM treatment until 17, which is a life saver in cases like this.
About the first flight being canceled, as you say it was not. I checked when you posted the first time, and the flight had only been delayed but had departed.