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okmijn 13th Nov 2023 14:58


Originally Posted by Flyingtaxidriver (Post 11538066)
Is time to command the same for everyone, as in still seniority based. Or is their any credit for experience

Purely seniority based. Previous experience is irrelevant.

Actually, to expand - all promotions and fleet changes are in seniority but you can find yourself getting LHS 320 or RHS 330 ‘sooner’ than expected if not everyone more senior than you wants that particular spot. The new short-haul skipper pay scale doesn’t interest everyone so people have been staying RHS 330 longer which has seen more and more junior RHS 320 people getting a shot a command earlier than expected. Similarly, FOs senior enough for part-time are slow to move fleets/go for command as they’ll then lose part-time. All this pushes the seniority cut-off for command lower.

Redmo 13th Nov 2023 16:25


Originally Posted by okmijn (Post 11538493)
Purely seniority based. Previous experience is irrelevant.

Actually, to expand - all promotions and fleet changes are in seniority but you can find yourself getting LHS 320 or RHS 330 ‘sooner’ than expected if not everyone more senior than you wants that particular spot. The new short-haul skipper pay scale doesn’t interest everyone so people have been staying RHS 330 longer which has seen more and more junior RHS 320 people getting a shot a command earlier than expected. Similarly, FOs senior enough for part-time are slow to move fleets/go for command as they’ll then lose part-time. All this pushes the seniority cut-off for command lower.

How much worse is the new short haul captains scale? I'd heard about the 9% post covid cut but don't know anything about the new scale

okmijn 13th Nov 2023 17:17


Originally Posted by Redmo (Post 11538529)
How much worse is the new short haul captains scale? I'd heard about the 9% post covid cut but don't know anything about the new scale

The new scale isn’t a pay cut. It’s a pay limit. The pay is identical to the ‘ordinary’ scale all the way to year 19 at which point, annual increments stop. The reality being, by year 19, the vast majority of people will have had the opportunity to bid out of that scale onto a long haul fleet and the ordinary scale. This assumes continued growth and expansion, of course. Being a ‘short-haul’ captain places latitudinal and longitudinal restrictions on the duties you can be assigned and has, thus far, only served to reduce the flexibility of the pilot body to the airline.

ArmApp 29th Nov 2023 23:50

Any information about the assessments these days in Dublin please?
good luck!!

FlyingGinger 5th Dec 2023 06:48

Results
 
Hi, anyone know if EI contact with results of assessment as they go, or once all assessments/sims are completed?

Redmo 6th Dec 2023 15:42


Originally Posted by FlyingGinger (Post 11551556)
Hi, anyone know if EI contact with results of assessment as they go, or once all assessments/sims are completed?

I got a call for the sim where they told me I had passed the assesment so.far

FlyingGinger 6th Dec 2023 18:17


Originally Posted by Redmo (Post 11552380)
I got a call for the sim where they told me I had passed the assesment so.far

W Well done on getting that far. I was more referring to job offer calls, any idea when they plan to make a decision

Redmo 15th Jan 2024 14:16

Has anyone who did the sim check had news? I got an email just before Christmas saying answers should go out mid to late January

FlyingGinger 16th Jan 2024 13:16

I've heard a few calls with offers were made in mid December and a number of rejection emails sent out. The old saying 'no news is good news' applies. Last year my colleague got the call mid February. Best of luck

MichaelOLearyGenius 17th Jan 2024 15:25

This page is for cadets applying for first job, not for DEC recruitment

A320LGW 17th Jan 2024 19:10


Originally Posted by MichaelOLearyGenius (Post 11577988)
This page is for cadets applying for first job, not for DEC recruitment

The thread is titled direct entry??? There is a separate thread for cadets

shamrocky 20th Mar 2024 19:34

Open again!!

ArmApp 22nd Mar 2024 11:01

Hope Nobox and AL HR teams don’t invite to Dublin 30 pilots for 4/5 positions available per day…
why?, because it’s money to spend and ticket, hotel, food, transport),if you ask for free days at your actual airline they would realize it’s to attend to a pilot selection event, and finally please if someone of you guys attend be gentle and try not to monopolize the group exercise please.
Also they told me there was “special treatment” for some of the guys/gals last year… understandable if they know someone inside but don’t look. So if I get the invitation I would have to think twice.

Anyway, good luck everybody in your dream to be part of a major !

tiredofwalking 1st Apr 2024 16:59

anyone remember wich online test we have for the first part ?

A320LGW 1st Apr 2024 23:46

Total waste of time and effort for a process which has a final "review" stage that ultimately turns into a who you know contest.

Yes, you can pass every stage then be dumped at this review, because the reviewers know someone who's uncle has had a word, and the positions are finite.

They kicked off the last process by telling everyone how not corrupt the process is. That says a lot.

Consol 2nd Apr 2024 23:30


Originally Posted by A320LGW (Post 11627725)
Total waste of time and effort for a process which has a final "review" stage that ultimately turns into a who you know contest.

Yes, you can pass every stage then be dumped at this review, because the reviewers know someone who's uncle has had a word, and the positions are finite.

They kicked off the last process by telling everyone how not corrupt the process is. That says a lot.

A320LGW, there may be a little bit of starchy organic matter on your shoulder. EI not perfect but tell me how many legacy airlines in Europe have a dozen plus nationalities in the pilot body? Bulk of intake is now DEP so the 'cadet as the ideal' notion is a lot less now. Sure, one or two senior Capt's progeny make it in but the vast majority of new pilots have earned their seats through hard work and previous airline flying. It's still a very worthwhile career in a very decent airline.

A lot of airline pilot life is about personal interaction, life skills and awareness of others and sometimes of how you are perceived. Perhaps you need to think about that.

A320LGW 3rd Apr 2024 00:18

The pilots leaving the airline may beg to differ with you on how great it is.

My shoulders are clear thank you, along with my nose, which knows when it smells a rat.

One or two progeny make it in? You know, being an airline pilot entails being honest. I recommend you reflect on this crucial pilot quality.

asmith474 5th Apr 2024 15:17

Hi guys I received an email for the online assesment. Does anyone know what to expect? Thanks

tiredofwalking 5th Apr 2024 17:02

Does anyone knows how many pilot they want to recruit this session and how many applicants we are ?

ashliduck 10th Apr 2024 06:15

2024 direct entry pilot
 
Has anybody received an email for the third stage - interviews/assessment day as of yet? Or any idea when this might be


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